Originally posted by Zack Fair
Hulk's healing factor was non-existant and his amping was slow as all ****. He is just running out of ideas and being forced into a corner. So he is making shit up.
I predict that he now wants to bring in comic book abilities to cover his deficiencies.
When this happens, I also predict the rest of the forum will yell with one vision and one purpose "MOVIES ONLY!!!"
And I then predict I will laugh at Quan's blatant hypocritical shenanigans.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I guarantee you he was.When you fall, you don't accelerate forever and ever, you reach a top speed, and said speed would not have put 100 tons of force on Hulk's noggin.
You're wrong for three reasons.
1. Your power level is only 8999.
2. Even if you assume infinitely durable skeleton and tendons, Hulk would have underwent a lot more deformation when he impacted than what we saw from Thor's hammer. IE the impact form the fall >>>>>>>>>>>> Thor's Hammer. Else a hit from Thor would have made Hulk turn into a Ragdoll like in the ol' 90s physics engines.
3. Hulk is more dense than a regular human (lulz, pun). He would have a higher terminal velocity. If Thor had hit Hulk as hard as the impact, Thor's feet would cause indentions in the metal on the Helicarrier (because of Newton's Third Law of Motion) and Hulk would have flown dozens of feet.
Meow. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Missile kod her. 😂
This.
A missile....a MISSILE. FFS...a missile. Armor piercing rounds? NOPE! But a very low yield missile? Daaaaamn, gotta take a nap!
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Just to further cement the case:Zod shrugged off being pummeled into the ground at high speed, crash through 2 buildings and being in the middle of an exploding gas station. Then we see him drop to the ground helpless the moment the sensory overload kicks in.
But at no point is Zod knocked out from the Sensory shit. 🙂
That clip does not prove she was knocked out from sensory overload.
Okay, for any single person that has posted or even thinks the sensory shit knocked out Faora: a small Kal El...a boy of around 8, didn't get knocked out when shit just suddenly turned on.
A small child....let that sink in....
And you're claiming that a battle-hardened Kryptonian literally born only for military services and action (senses honed and trained just for battle) is knocked out the instant her helmet visor fails. And another thing, we saw the visors slowly fade out. It wasn't instant. Missile struck and shit was done. There was no scene with the visor slowly fading and then she freaks out over the visor fail. Nothing like that occurred. She was lucid, tried to tank the missile with her hand, and she is KO'd.
However, Faora wins 10 out of 10. 🙂 This is not even close. It's like putting a really big, fat, gym rat in the ring with a very fit superheavy weight, pro MMA fighter. Sure, they may be about the same strength...but there's no way the gym rat has a chance.3
Also, Abomination kicked Hulk's ass because he got to remain Lucid/intelligent after his change. Hulk became dumb. Abomination used some holds on Hulk. It wasn't exactly fair. Obviously, Hulk eventually won but he did get his ass kicked for a bit.
This should be Ang Lee's Hulk. That Hulk was stronger, more durable, better healing factor (like Wolverine's), more durable, and much faster.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You're wrong for three reasons.1. Your power level is only 8999.
2. Even if you assume infinitely durable skeleton and tendons, Hulk would have underwent a lot more deformation when he impacted than what we saw from Thor's hammer. IE the impact form the fall >>>>>>>>>>>> Thor's Hammer. Else a hit from Thor would have made Hulk turn into a Ragdoll like in the ol' 90s physics engines.
3. Hulk is more dense than a regular human (lulz, pun). He would have a higher terminal velocity. If Thor had hit Hulk as hard as the impact, Thor's feet would cause indentions in the metal on the Helicarrier (because of Newton's Third Law of Motion) and Hulk would have flown dozens of feet.
Meow. 🙂
This.
A missile....a MISSILE. FFS...a missile. Armor piercing rounds? NOPE! But a very low yield missile? Daaaaamn, gotta take a nap!
But at no point is Zod knocked out from the Sensory shit. 🙂
That clip does not prove she was knocked out from sensory overload.
Okay, for any single person that has posted or even thinks the sensory shit knocked out Faora: a small Kal El...a boy of around 8, didn't get knocked out when shit just suddenly turned on.
A small child....let that sink in....
And you're claiming that a battle-hardened Kryptonian literally born only for military services and action (senses honed and trained just for battle) is knocked out the instant her helmet visor fails. And another thing, we saw the visors slowly fade out. It wasn't instant. Missile struck and shit was done. There was no scene with the visor slowly fading and then she freaks out over the visor fail. Nothing like that occurred. She was lucid, tried to tank the missile with her hand, and she is KO'd.
However, Faora wins 10 out of 10. 🙂 This is not even close. It's like putting a really big, fat, gym rat in the ring with a very fit superheavy weight, pro MMA fighter. Sure, they may be about the same strength...but there's no way the gym rat has a chance.3
Also, Abomination kicked Hulk's ass because he got to remain Lucid/intelligent after his change. Hulk became dumb. Abomination used some holds on Hulk. It wasn't exactly fair. Obviously, Hulk eventually won but he did get his ass kicked for a bit.
This should be Ang Lee's Hulk. That Hulk was stronger, more durable, better healing factor (like Wolverine's), more durable, and much faster.
I never claimed the sensory overload is what KOed her. I was saying it had a lot to do with it.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Except you really didn't.
Did:
" a small Kal El...a boy of around 8, didn't get knocked out when shit just suddenly turned on.
A small child....let that sink in....
And you're claiming that a battle-hardened Kryptonian literally born only for military services and action (senses honed and trained just for battle) is knocked out the instant her helmet visor fails. And another thing, we saw the visors slowly fade out. It wasn't instant. Missile struck and shit was done. There was no scene with the visor slowly fading and then she freaks out over the visor fail. Nothing like that occurred. She was lucid, tried to tank the missile with her hand, and she is KO'd."
In there is the counter that the sensory overload even played a part in her being knocked out.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
We don't see her freak out like Zod,
Correct...but for a different reason than you are about to say.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
but we can see her whine and show pain from the overload.
Uhhh...no? That never happened.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Did she gather her shit in time to block the missile? Yeah.
She sure did. Mere seconds later, after the dust settles, she's out cold, on the ground.
Originally posted by dadudemon
This.A missile....a MISSILE. FFS...a missile. Armor piercing rounds? NOPE! But a very low yield missile? Daaaaamn, gotta take a nap!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but her mask only broke after Kal had already smacked her around quite a ****ing bit. The missile could easily just have been the last straw that pushed it past the point of functioning. As I recall it took a bunch of hits to break Zods mask too. I doubt a single thing broke either, but rather the cumulative effects of multiple attacks.
Originally posted by dadudemon
But at no point is Zod knocked out from the Sensory shit. 🙂That clip does not prove she was knocked out from sensory overload.
Okay, for any single person that has posted or even thinks the sensory shit knocked out Faora: a small Kal El...a boy of around 8, didn't get knocked out when shit just suddenly turned on.
A small child....let that sink in....
And you're claiming that a battle-hardened Kryptonian literally born only for military services and action (senses honed and trained just for battle) is knocked out the instant her helmet visor fails. And another thing, we saw the visors slowly fade out. It wasn't instant. Missile struck and shit was done. There was no scene with the visor slowly fading and then she freaks out over the visor fail. Nothing like that occurred. She was lucid, tried to tank the missile with her hand, and she is KO'd.
Kal was also accustomed to Earths atmosphere and environment by that point. Remember tht his mother said he struggled to breath as a baby? That he was affected much less severely is no surprise and logically makes sense.
Also remember that fully grown Kal did get knocked out on the Kryptonian ship. So obviously the effects of the different environments are quite a bit more debilitating than you recall.
Originally posted by dadudemon
This should be Ang Lee's Hulk. That Hulk was stronger, more durable, better healing factor (like Wolverine's), more durable, and much faster.
That Hulk also seemed to get tired way more quickly, plus he nearly got choked out when the fighter jet he was riding flew out of the stratosphere.
For all of this Hulk's power, he was still ultimately a brute who's going up against a Kryptonian analogue of a genetically engineered supersoldier, with tremendous training in H2H to boot.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Did:" a small Kal El...a boy of around 8, didn't get knocked out when shit just suddenly turned on.
A small child....let that sink in....
And you're claiming that a battle-hardened Kryptonian literally born only for military services and action (senses honed and trained just for battle) is knocked out the instant her helmet visor fails. And another thing, we saw the visors slowly fade out. It wasn't instant. Missile struck and shit was done. There was no scene with the visor slowly fading and then she freaks out over the visor fail. Nothing like that occurred. She was lucid, tried to tank the missile with her hand, and she is KO'd."
A small child Kal didn't take a missile to the face tho. I think the sensory overload point is directed at the explosion itself. Think about how Zod reacted when he mearly heard voices and such. Now imagine how he would have reacted if a bomb went off in his face. The sound, the light ect. I think the missile KO'd her not because if its power but because the sound overwhelmed her senses like a giant flash gernade
Originally posted by TheGodKillerits canon. This whole low showing argument is built atop the backs of fanboys. Deal with it. Hulk wins.
If people want to use that missile induced KO as a low showing for Faora to claim that Hulk could KO or rock her, then we might as well start using those dozens of Chitauri guns KOing Hulk as well in this fight.Faora KOs him with hundreds of superfast punches. 🙂
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaIt does all the time. We see bullets clearly hurt but we see him heal right past it.
When did this healing factor come into play? Thor bleed onscreen, Faora didn't despite the missile to the face and grenades tanked on top of her fight with Supes.Where does he show a healing factor in either the Incredible Hulk or Avengers.
Uh...no. Just no.
Faora was ko'd.
😂
Yes, only yes.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroI ignore nothing. I don't even ignore hatred obsessed momma's boys. 🙂
I predict that he now wants to bring in comic book abilities to cover his deficiencies.When this happens, I also predict the rest of the forum will yell with one vision and one purpose [B]"MOVIES ONLY!!!"
And I then predict I will laugh at Quan's blatant hypocritical shenanigans. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
It does all the time. We see bullets clearly hurt but we see him heal right past it.Faora was ko'd.
😂Yes, only yes.
When? Cause this would've been really helpful when Abomonation was stabbing him.
KO'd by the following formula..."Superman brawl + sensory overload + missile to the face"
Still nope.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaHulk won the fight and healed from the damage. He roared after victory.
When? Cause this would've been really helpful when Abomonation was stabbing him.KO'd by the following formula..."Superman brawl + sensory overload + missile to the face"
Still nope.
Wrong. Hulk was on another level in Avengers as well.
Yep.