Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine is one of the worst characters to ever appear in a comic, I can't see why anyone older than 12 would like him.
Wolverine is one of the best and most fully developed characters in all of literature, and nearly a peerless creation with in the tights and capes superhero genre. You're hate for Wolverine is merely further documentation of your lack of intelligence.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine is one of the best and most fully developed characters in all of literature, and nearly a peerless creation with in the tights and capes superhero genre. You're hate for Wolverine is merely further documentation of your lack of intelligence.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Daredevil, Batman, Joker and Magneto would like a word with you.
What Srank said isn't exactly wrong. Logan definitely is a highly developed and fleshed out character. To that end, your list is pretty fleshed out and developed (though I'd argue that Batman and Joker, while both being good characters, changed and have been developed the least in comparison to Magneto and Daredevil).
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine is one of the best and most fully developed characters in all of literature, and nearly a peerless creation with in the tights and capes superhero genre. You're hate for Wolverine is merely further documentation of your lack of intelligence.
Like I said, you have my pity.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Daredevil, Batman, Joker and Magneto would like a word with you.
Magneto is the only character you've mentioned who can be mentioned in the same sentence as Wolverine (though Daredevil is quite close). Tony Stark is also on of the few comic book characters that is on that same level.
Batman? Seriously, the notion that he is a good character is a laughable fallacy. His character fallows no internal logic. He. Makes. No. Sense. Frankly it should be infuriating to anyone who has actually bothered to think about him rationally for more than 15 seconds. DC wants you to believe that Batman is the best. He the smartest, richest, most skilled man in the room who always has a plan for every situation, every possible contingency, any thing you could think of, he has already thought of a dozen solutions for... yet he has been fighting the same ******* villains for decades and he can't come up with a single solution to keep them locked up? Seriously? It just doesn't fit. The first time Joker busted out of jail... that would have been the last time, Batman would have identified the problem and solved it. Here we are though, it's happened dozens of times, and he fallows the same protocol over and over again. I'm not saying Batman needs to kill his villains, there are other solutions. Bruce Wayne has enough money to fund a private prison, I doubt anyone would be busting out of that. Maybe Batman sits down with the DA and they get this shit handled and the state executes theses villains that have busted out of jail a dozen times. You are probably thinking "The same thing could be said for every superhero!" True, but every superhero isn't Batman. There is no way to rectify Batman's actions with the character's motivations. He just doesn't fallow any internal logic. Wolverine has been fighting the same villains for decades and has failed to come up with a solution? That's fine. One of the major themes of the character of Wolverine is failure. He's failed at virtually everything he has ever tried his hand at... but he keeps trying. That's the essence of the character. This failure needs to be justifiable within in the context of the character, and in the case of Batman it isn't. Batman is supposed to perfection and flawless execution. He's the best at everything he tries his hand at and everything comes easy to him. He became a vigilante because he saw a flaw in the criminal justice system. The police weren't able to deal with these villains because of red tape and corruption, so he became Batman to do what they couldn't. So he beats up criminals, hands them over the GCPD (the organization he didn't trust to catch them in the first place)... then they break out a few months later, and he repeats the process over and over again, without making a single adjustment. It's insanity. Batman isn't naive, he isn't Spider-man or Superman, who see the best in everyone and hope their villains can be redeemed by the criminal justice system... he just doesn't make sense as a character.
And don't get me started on Robins. How many teenagers need to die in a Robin costume before this ******* learns his lesson?
Punisher is a better character than Batman.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Magneto is the only character you've mentioned who can be mentioned in the same sentence as Wolverine (though Daredevil is quite close). Tony Stark is also on of the few comic book characters that is on that same level.Batman? Seriously, the notion that he is a good character is a laughable fallacy. His character fallows no internal logic. He. Makes. No. Sense. Frankly it should be infuriating to anyone who has actually bothered to think about him rationally for more than 15 seconds. DC wants you to believe that Batman is the best. He the smartest, richest, most skilled man in the room who always has a plan for every situation, every possible contingency, any thing you could think of, he has already thought of a dozen solutions for... yet he has been fighting the same ******* villains for decades and he can't come up with a single solution to keep them locked up? Seriously? It just doesn't fit. The first time Joker busted out of jail... that would have been the last time, Batman would have identified the problem and solved it. Here we are though, it's happened dozens of times, and he fallows the same protocol over and over again. I'm not saying Batman needs to kill his villains, there are other solutions. Bruce Wayne has enough money to fund a private prison, I doubt anyone would be busting out of that. Maybe Batman sits down with the DA and they get this shit handled and the state executes theses villains that have busted out of jail a dozen times. You are probably thinking "The same thing could be said for every superhero!" True, but every superhero isn't Batman. There is no way to rectify Batman's actions with the character's motivations. He just doesn't fallow any internal logic. Wolverine has been fighting the same villains for decades and has failed to come up with a solution? That's fine. One of the major themes of the character of Wolverine is failure. He's failed at virtually everything he has ever tried his hand at... but he keeps trying. That's the essence of the character. This failure needs to be justifiable within in the context of the character, and in the case of Batman it isn't. Batman is supposed to perfection and flawless execution. He's the best at everything he tries his hand at and everything comes easy to him. He became a vigilante because he saw a flaw in the criminal justice system. The police weren't able to deal with these villains because of red tape and corruption, so he became Batman to do what they couldn't. So he beats up criminals, hands them over the GCPD (the organization he didn't trust to catch them in the first place)... then they break out a few months later, and he repeats the process over and over again, without making a single adjustment. It's insanity. Batman isn't naive, he isn't Spider-man or Superman, who see the best in everyone and hope their villains can be redeemed by the criminal justice system... he just doesn't make sense as a character.
And don't get me started on Robins. How many teenagers need to die in a Robin costume before this ******* learns his lesson?
Punisher is a better character than Batman.
Wolverine's movie is a failure too. 😛
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Let me know when Christopher Nolan learns how to pace, and edit film, eject some chemistry into his forced awkward romances or shot a scene without fifteen minutes of crowbared in exposition. 😈
I think most people wouldn't say he's they're favorite director, but he is solid and his intensity he shows in scenes are top notch, IMO. Definitely my top 10 favorite in modern times.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Magneto is the only character you've mentioned who can be mentioned in the same sentence as Wolverine (though Daredevil is quite close). Tony Stark is also on of the few comic book characters that is on that same level.Batman? Seriously, the notion that he is a good character is a laughable fallacy. His character fallows no internal logic. He. Makes. No. Sense. Frankly it should be infuriating to anyone who has actually bothered to think about him rationally for more than 15 seconds. DC wants you to believe that Batman is the best. He the smartest, richest, most skilled man in the room who always has a plan for every situation, every possible contingency, any thing you could think of, he has already thought of a dozen solutions for... yet he has been fighting the same ******* villains for decades and he can't come up with a single solution to keep them locked up? Seriously? It just doesn't fit. The first time Joker busted out of jail... that would have been the last time, Batman would have identified the problem and solved it. Here we are though, it's happened dozens of times, and he fallows the same protocol over and over again. I'm not saying Batman needs to kill his villains, there are other solutions. Bruce Wayne has enough money to fund a private prison, I doubt anyone would be busting out of that. Maybe Batman sits down with the DA and they get this shit handled and the state executes theses villains that have busted out of jail a dozen times. You are probably thinking "The same thing could be said for every superhero!" True, but every superhero isn't Batman. There is no way to rectify Batman's actions with the character's motivations. He just doesn't fallow any internal logic. Wolverine has been fighting the same villains for decades and has failed to come up with a solution? That's fine. One of the major themes of the character of Wolverine is failure. He's failed at virtually everything he has ever tried his hand at... but he keeps trying. That's the essence of the character. This failure needs to be justifiable within in the context of the character, and in the case of Batman it isn't. Batman is supposed to perfection and flawless execution. He's the best at everything he tries his hand at and everything comes easy to him. He became a vigilante because he saw a flaw in the criminal justice system. The police weren't able to deal with these villains because of red tape and corruption, so he became Batman to do what they couldn't. So he beats up criminals, hands them over the GCPD (the organization he didn't trust to catch them in the first place)... then they break out a few months later, and he repeats the process over and over again, without making a single adjustment. It's insanity. Batman isn't naive, he isn't Spider-man or Superman, who see the best in everyone and hope their villains can be redeemed by the criminal justice system... he just doesn't make sense as a character.
And don't get me started on Robins. How many teenagers need to die in a Robin costume before this ******* learns his lesson?
Punisher is a better character than Batman.