Originally posted by chipguy_okay
Qubit has normal human stats, high level telepathic defense, high-level technopathy, and access to teleportation/dimension hacking technology.Qubit's tech can let him bypass normal durability. The vespa were able to by pass Plutonian's durability using the same technology. Plutonain best durability feat is surviving a beating where each punch is star system extinguishing. *Characters with weird energy shields can probably block this tech.*
End of series Qubit can teleport to the end of the universe with tech that protects him from Entropy + open thousands of dimensional gateways to spread the PLutonain in his energy form all over. Modeus kind of helped indirectly with the latter though.
cool. this is what i was wondering about. you can usually tell a lot about a guy from his major enemy. plutonian is surfer level--at least. if he's human, he must have some tech to even things up. kind of like lex then drafting his armor. i'd just hate to fight the guy only to find something that shows his powers put him over the cap. nothing interrupts matches like questions of legality....
Easiest thing for Qubit is just to see a scan of him doing his thing.
He should be able to do the above with minimal prep. The same goes for the force-fields, I think.
Qubit beat Plutonain by exploiting him with the one material in existence that can make him human/ put him down, and having the device to funnel him about prepped.
Curry, I don't know that this has received a full answer:
Does the construct limit apply to tech grabbed in prep? Or tech built in-match? Leo mentioned Lex's suit...I would hope that wouldn't be allowed. Basically, as long as prep items/tech are capped at high meta, I think everyone will be ok. If the construct/summon limit doesn't apply to prep items, then that changes a lot, and we're back to drafting Reed Richards for his lab and such.
The construction/summon limit ONLY applies to the prep, that was part of the point. If someone's capable of constructing an item in the fight, then that's allowed.
I have no problem with capping the items you can bring with you. Like you mentioned, Reed could just bring the cart of weapons that he used in hickman's run.
Originally posted by curryman
The construction/summon limit ONLY applies to the prep, that was part of the point. If someone's capable of constructing an item in the fight, then that's allowed.I have no problem with capping the items you can bring with you. Like you mentioned, Reed could just bring the cart of weapons that he used in hickman's run.
But anything constructed or summoned in-match still has to fall under the limits, yeah? I get that we can't create anything in prep but can in match (which would be hard anyway, given how quickly battles will commence). I'm just confirming that the high meta limit applies across the board.
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Are we worried about Qubit then? There are counters to his teleport trick there, but if he took out Plutonian, it still raises eyebrows...
Originally posted by Digi
But anything constructed or summoned in-match still has to fall under the limits, yeah? I get that we can't create anything in prep but can in match (which would be hard anyway, given how quickly battles will commence). I'm just confirming that the high meta limit applies across the board....
Are we worried about Qubit then? There are counters to his teleport trick there, but if he took out Plutonian, it still raises eyebrows...
In-fight created constructs and its limits is at high meta and it's specified in the rules.
That being said, if judges start trying to disqualify created technology because they feel that it's above high-meta tech, then I'm going to raise my voice and knock over grandma's vase. The characters are going to be beyond meta when they enter the battlefield.
Clear rules are important, but I'm not going to let people try to shoehorn everybody's strategy into whatever straight-forward strat they were planning. There's an almost unbeatable defense that people can employ against almost any opponent.
Strong arguments.
Originally posted by Digi
...Are we worried about Qubit then? There are counters to his teleport trick there, but if he took out Plutonian, it still raises eyebrows...
abcsarcasm
No. Not by his own tech, or his own powers.
There was a rare candle made from some alien race, built by some unknown means, made by some unknown materials that depowered Tony. From the Candle Wax, they made a bullet to be used against Tony, in efforts to kill him. What Qubit did, was take the Bullet, place it in Tony heart (through his teleporting device). Told him that if he didn't do his bidding, he would kill him with the candle wax.
Kapish, or do we need scans?
Originally posted by curryman
Quibit had him by teleporting tech + kryptonite.In-fight created constructs and its limits is at high meta and it's specified in the rules.
That being said, if judges start trying to disqualify created technology because they feel that it's above high-meta tech, then I'm going to raise my voice and knock over grandma's vase. The characters are going to be beyond meta when they enter the battlefield.
Clear rules are important, but I'm not going to let people try to shoehorn everybody's strategy into whatever straight-forward strat they were planning. There's an almost unbeatable defense that people can employ against almost any opponent.
Strong arguments.
Sounds good. And don't mistake my thoroughness for trying to bend or change the rules. I just want to know where we stand when fights start. Thanks.
🙂
And characters will be beyond high meta, but I just wanted to make sure the equivalent of Lex's suit couldn't be snuck in through some random loophole. We're good though.
Originally posted by "Id"
Qubit take out Plutonian.abcsarcasm
No. Not by his own tech, or his own powers.
There was a rare candle made from some alien race, built by some unknown means, made by some unknown materials that depowered Tony. From the Candle Wax, they made a bullet to be used against Tony, in efforts to kill him. What Qubit did, was take the Bullet, place it in Tony heart (through his teleporting device). Told him that if he didn't do his bidding, he would kill him with the candle wax.
Kapish, or do we need scans?
I trust you, surprisingly. Teleportation trickery is nothing new at this level (hell, I used it myself with Spot at one point). And while I'm sure he has other tricks, I sufficiently trust curry and the tourney rules. The main thing is preventing something that feels against the spirit of the tourney rules, or feels like finding a loophole that wasn't intended to exist. I have no problem with clever tech or meshing that adheres to the tourney's rules.
Originally posted by chipguy_okay
Wow. I didn't realize we can go past high-meta in the prep, and that our mind pick gets their standard gear. I think I might be in a bit of trouble! Darius Dax might have been worth picking after all. We'll see though.
You can switch picks still.
We'll be > high meta by virtue of the amalgamation of our three picks. Prep doesn't have much to do with it. it's just a chance to pick up gear.
re-picking should not be allowed cause it's the same as counter-picking
Originally posted by chipguy_okaythis is literally someone aching to counter-pick right now
Wow. I didn't realize we can go past high-meta in the prep, and that our mind pick gets their standard gear. I think I might be in a bit of trouble! Darius Dax might have been worth picking after all. We'll see though.