LOL at this rate you guys will have all your posts in today! makes for some good entertainment though. 👆
i would also like to share my understanding of this whole self-bfr thing then hear what curry has to say about my interpretation. first off, i didn't see any specific rule against self bfr on pg1. maybe it was added later on and i missed it? to me, self bfr could and should occur though, only if you do so to avoid destruction. for example--if i were the one getting nuked in my match and has a defense i ran into the bleed, THAT would constitute self bfr. you can't use it as a means of defense in any way, unless of course you're a teleporter. i like the time limit idea curry will institute, that will certainly help (and that would be relative time of course, yes?) hinder the abuse of the strategy, but i really think it's very important that we don't allow self bfr to be used as a defense against any form of large scale attack. maybe you're also only allowed to leave the BF one time in any one match? i'm sorta sorry i opened a small can of worms and just don't want to see it abused or used in ways that go against the spirit of the tourney.
(i apologize if this came across as me trying to run things curry. most certainly that is NOT my intent. i'd just love to get this particular detailed tidied up some and would be interested in hearing what you and the others think about ways to avoid abusing the strategy.)
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
I'm feeling myself kinda hulky. Sitting with scans at hand, itching to post awesomely-brutal-rebuttal, but then remembering this is only the first day and I'll need to save good stuff for later.
"Charlotte scan-smash", lawlz
Originally posted by leonidas
LOL at this rate you guys will have all your posts in today! makes for some good entertainment though. 👆i would also like to share my understanding of this whole self-bfr thing then hear what curry has to say about my interpretation. first off, i didn't see any specific rule against self bfr on pg1. maybe it was added later on and i missed it? to me, self bfr could and should occur though, only if you do so to avoid destruction. for example--if i were the one getting nuked in my match and has a defense i ran into the bleed, THAT would constitute self bfr. you can't use it as a means of defense in any way, unless of course you're a teleporter. i like the time limit idea curry will institute, that will certainly help (and that would be relative time of course, yes?) hinder the abuse of the strategy, but i really think it's very important that we don't allow self bfr to be used as a defense against any form of large scale attack. maybe you're also only allowed to leave the BF one time in any one match? i'm sorta sorry i opened a small can of worms and just don't want to see it abused or used in ways that go against the spirit of the tourney.
(i apologize if this came across as me trying to run things curry. most certainly that is NOT my intent. i'd just love to get this particular detailed tidied up some and would be interested in hearing what you and the others think about ways to avoid abusing the strategy.)
Originally posted by leonidas
LOL at this rate you guys will have all your posts in today! makes for some good entertainment though. 👆i would also like to share my understanding of this whole self-bfr thing then hear what curry has to say about my interpretation. first off, i didn't see any specific rule against self bfr on pg1. maybe it was added later on and i missed it? to me, self bfr could and should occur though, only if you do so to avoid destruction. for example--if i were the one getting nuked in my match and has a defense i ran into the bleed, THAT would constitute self bfr. you can't use it as a means of defense in any way, unless of course you're a teleporter. i like the time limit idea curry will institute, that will certainly help (and that would be relative time of course, yes?) hinder the abuse of the strategy, but i really think it's very important that we don't allow self bfr to be used as a defense against any form of large scale attack. maybe you're also only allowed to leave the BF one time in any one match? i'm sorta sorry i opened a small can of worms and just don't want to see it abused or used in ways that go against the spirit of the tourney.
(i apologize if this came across as me trying to run things curry. most certainly that is NOT my intent. i'd just love to get this particular detailed tidied up some and would be interested in hearing what you and the others think about ways to avoid abusing the strategy.)
Yeah, time limit is important. Also that it would be relative time.
Originally posted by leonidas
i lol'd. a little. 😐
I did too.
😮
Originally posted by abhilegend
Limiting the time you can teleport to other dimension would be inhibiting the power of a character IMO.
teleporting is instantaneous though--i mean teleporters leave and return instantly. making pit stops and hanging out in places outside the BF isn't teleporting per se, its more like dimension traveling. it's not limiting on the power at all imo, because the ability is ALLOWED. it's no more limiting than giving pg's guy (with northstar) the same RELATIVE time in prep that everyone else has. it's done not to limit but to ensure a certain degree of fairness. you CAN leave the BF, you just can't STAY outside.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
^I seem to recall a tournament where Digi pretty much chilled inside the spot dimension - only his legs/arms came out for punches and such.
LOL. Fair point. Though as you correctly pointed out, that was a different tournament.
😖hifty:
I also beat a guy who was using a weapon that depowered Sentry. I wasn't the only haxxed one in that tourney.
Curry, I'm afraid we may need a ruling.
New 52 Question is clearly a different character from Pre-Flashpoint one. Original one never had a Wandering Jew curse on him nor is he operated on the Earth for centuries.
This is clearly a case of totally retooled character. Like New 52 Huntress having nothing in common with Pre-Flashpoint one.
As far as I remember, Beatboks drafted Pre-Flashpoint Vic Sage, not New 52 "Wandering Jew" one with powers deriving from mystical curses and not from the mask with hallucinogen gas. The feats from "urban shaman" Vic and "Wandering Jew" Vic look mutually exclusive to me since they have complete different histories and claiming feats from "Wandering Jew" Vic for urban shaman one seems to be...not legal.
Originally posted by Digi
LOL. And as you correctly pointed out, that was a different tournament.😖hifty:
I also beat a guy who was using a weapon that depowered Sentry. I wasn't the only haxxed one in that tourney.
good times.....
anyway, i def think the time limit needs to be extremely brief--5 seconds maybe? but at LEAST as important imo is the idea that it can't be used as a means of defense. that would really change the dynamic of some of the matches and will put some people at a major disadvantage who might otherwise of drafted differently had this whole thing been brought up as legal right from the start.
Originally posted by leonidas
you know, i keep meaning to mention your avatar and the comment above, and your sig. that's some pretty deep stuff there. interesting choices. 👆
The sig quote is a song from the book I wrote over the spring and summer--a backwoods character sings it while he's playing a fiddle for the dancing ghost of his father. Writing it was a lot of fun, even if I probably flubbed a lot of the grammar 😮 (It's based mostly on Old English, something I'd like to study someday)
that's good, you mentioned a time limit. how long can someone dimension hop? and can we establish that it is not usable as a form of defense? please? i really think it opens a lot of issues otherwise. i mean, i'm in a very good position to take ADVANTAGE of such a tactic and even i don't want to use it as a means of defending myself.
also things like phasing and teleporting and invisibility ARE all legal and wouldn't fall under the time limit rule, correct?
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Curry, I'm afraid we may need a ruling.
New 52 Question is clearly a different character from Pre-Flashpoint one. Original one never had a Wandering Jew curse on him nor is he operated on the Earth for centuries.
This is clearly a case of totally retooled character. Like New 52 Huntress having nothing in common with Pre-Flashpoint one.As far as I remember, Beatboks drafted Pre-Flashpoint Vic Sage, not New 52 "Wandering Jew" one with powers deriving from mystical curses and not from the mask with hallucinogen gas. The feats from "urban shaman" Vic and "Wandering Jew" Vic look mutually exclusive to me since they have complete different histories and claiming feats from "Wandering Jew" Vic for urban shaman one seems to be...not legal.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Thanks. The avatar is Jean Toomer, if you didn't know, and the user tag is from his book Cane, (again, if you didn't know).The sig quote is a song from the book I wrote over the spring and summer--a backwoods character sings it while he's playing a fiddle for the dancing ghost of his father. Writing it was a lot of fun, even if I probably flubbed a lot of the grammar 😮 (It's based mostly on Old English, something I'd like to study someday)
cool. i did know the avvy and comment because i looked them up when i saw your avvy. i love classic lit and wasn't familiar with toomer or cane. you wrote the book? that's cool. any luck with agents or publishers? trying to get a work published is.....really REALLY hard. 🙁
Originally posted by leonidas
cool. i did know the avvy and comment because i looked them up when i saw your avvy. i love classic lit and wasn't familiar with toomer or cane. you wrote the book? that's cool. any luck with agents or publishers? trying to get a work published is.....really REALLY hard. 🙁
If you haven't already you should check out Cane. It's an amazing book, some of the passages are pure prosodic brain sex.
Writing is hard. Part of what I do for a living is write/edit, but it's almost entirely for magazines and newsletters. So, like, interviews, news, professional spotlights and announcements, etc. Even short stories are a different beast entirely, let alone novels. And that's before you get published. I have respect for anyone who can actually write well in those mediums, because as comfortable as I am as a writer in my field, I'm completely lost once you take me out of my wheelhouse. It's harder than many think. Anyway, good luck.
I also assume you've already sent in your judge review, so I'm not trying anything funny here. Friggin' tourney politics...