Curryman's Meta-Amalgam Tourney!

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Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
How about building Ego the Living Planet on your own?
Mind: Hank Pym
Body: Omega Sentinel
Powers: Metamorpho

Unlimited mass thanks to Pym particles, access to nanosentinels to replicate and ability to shift your mass into whatever you wish. Though it is good for tournaments with longer prep time than this one.

Yeah that would require quite a bit of time, for mass terraforming. mhmm

If I was to coach anyone to enter an Amalgam tourney. I would build a character, combining components that work canonically, as oppose to using string logic. Its easier to defend, and refute.

Originally posted by "Id"
Yeah that would require quite a bit of time, for mass terraforming. mhmm

If I was to coach anyone to enter an Amalgam tourney. I would build a character, combining components that work canonically, as oppose to using string logic. Its easier to defend, and refute.

It's not bad advice. I've seen string logic plans work though. Heck, I took two such plans to the semis and finals of tourneys (Delph's High Meta Round Robin and the "Under Thanos" Tourney, repectively). In the latter, the plan worked entirely. We just lost to an even more ridiculous plan that also worked. It certainly requires more legwork though.

Still, like you say, there's less chance of it being refuted.

Originally posted by Digi
Did we ever get a final ruling on dimensional stuff? Time limits? Is the limit relative to the one doing the teleporting? I'd be more than ok if it's only for instantaneous (by any measure) teleports, but I'll make it work either way.

Just reposting that, since the off-topic is strong with us right now.

Originally posted by Digi
Pretty sure any body of Fate would've been banned. Didn't beatboks try that actually?


I disagree.

Fate (Jared) was previously drafted in a High Meta tourney. And as a character he is High Meta. Golden Age Dr. Fate on the other hand, was ridiculously powerful. That sucker TK tossed a planet into the Sun.

Silver Scarab (Hall) is also Mid Meta at beast, and technically isn't Fate.

Which is why I find this build, a clever one.

Intentionally moving into another dimension for more than 5 seconds counts as a self-bfr.

Originally posted by curryman
Intentionally moving into another dimension for more than 5 seconds counts as a self-bfr.

And that 5 seconds is relative to the person doing the traveling, yes? I ask because of Abhi's time-stop thing. He's arguing that he can stay in there indefinitely and it's still "instantaneous" according to the flow of time.

Originally posted by curryman
Intentionally moving into another dimension for more than 5 seconds counts as a self-bfr.

Too exploitable, if they are attempting to use a dimension shift, to avoid an attack it should last no longer than a person teleports in mid battle (ala Night Crawler). A fraction of a second should be suffice.

Just my 2¢. Not that I am really worried.

Originally posted by Digi
And that 5 seconds is relative to the person doing the traveling, yes? I ask because of Abhi's time-stop thing. He's arguing that he can stay in there indefinitely and it's still "instantaneous" according to the flow of time.

Apply a rule of relativity. Time limit applies regardless of the flow of time in said dimension.

A fraction of a second seems a bit short.

One second, relative time. Regardless how fast time moves in either dimension.

Originally posted by "Id"
Too exploitable, if they are attempting to use a dimension shift, to avoid an attack it should last no longer than a person teleports in mid battle (ala Night Crawler). A fraction of a second should be suffice.

Just my 2¢. Not that I am really worried.

Agree entirely. It should be less than a second imo. Again, I'll adapt, but w/e.

Originally posted by "Id"
Apply a rule of relativity. Time limit applies regardless of the flow of time in said dimension.

I know. I just want to see curry say it.

Originally posted by "Id"
I disagree.

Fate (Jared) was previously drafted in a High Meta tourney. And as a character he is High Meta. Golden Age Dr. Fate on the other hand, was ridiculously powerful. That sucker TK tossed a planet into the Sun.

Silver Scarab (Hall) is also Mid Meta at beast, and technically isn't Fate.

Which is why I find this build, a clever one.

Heh, maybe. I had a similar idea once with drafting a completely inept rookie GL and a powerless (and ring-less) Hal Jordan, which that particular tourney's rules allowed for. I think it would've been for a low herald tourney, not high meta, but the principle was the same. Or an inept rookie GL + Reed for in-match tech building...which I briefly considered in this tourney before realizing that ANY GL would be considered low herald.

Originally posted by curryman
A fraction of a second seems a bit short.

One second, relative time. Regardless how fast time moves in either dimension.

👆

Originally posted by Digi

Heh, maybe. I had a similar idea once with drafting a completely inept rookie GL and a powerless (and ring-less) Hal Jordan, which that particular tourney's rules allowed for. I think it would've been for a low herald tourney, not high meta, but the principle was the same. Or an inept rookie GL + Reed for in-match tech building...which I briefly considered in this tourney before realizing that ANY GL would be considered low herald.

👆


Heh. I was looking for the same combo. I was trying to sneak in a rookie GL, but the weakest GL are Low Heralds.

I would bring it up a notch, in the final or if I got single round eliminated. As his base I would pick OA, and waltz into the Central Battery. peaches

Originally posted by curryman
A fraction of a second seems a bit short.

One second, relative time. Regardless how fast time moves in either dimension.

👆

Originally posted by "Id"
Heh. I was looking for the same combo. I was trying to sneak in a rookie GL, but the weakest GL are Low Heralds.

I would bring it up a notch, in the final or if I got single round eliminated. As his base I would pick OA, and waltz into the Central Battery. peaches

Ha! Good to know we think alike. I like the OA thing. Hadn't thought of that one, though to be fair I discarded the GL plan fairly quickly.

I specifically didn't go for an "unlock" strategy this time. As I mentioned, I've used them to great affect twice, I've seen them used well a few other times (Blair did a mutant unlock one time too, with...Jubilee?), and there's probably even more out there that we're not thinking of. But my lone tourney win was just an intelligently meshed trio with a few particular tricks for tougher opponents. I decided to follow that model again this time. Maybe it will bite me in the butt, but I also think we're a long way from knowing the result of this thing.

Are all of the weakest Green Lanterns low herald?

What about the dog-GL that almost got killed by a yellow steam-roller?

Originally posted by curryman
Are all of the weakest Green Lanterns low herald?

What about the dog-GL that almost got killed by a yellow steam-roller?

Well maybe if you look hard enough you can find one. But they also needed a 10 issue significant appearance. Otherwise it would be vetoed by the members.

Originally posted by curryman
Are all of the weakest Green Lanterns low herald?

What about the dog-GL that almost got killed by a yellow steam-roller?

😂

I dunno, maybe. Heck, maybe we should be drafting the Pet Avengers for stuff. Does the Thor-frog have a replica Mjolnir or something?

Thanks for the dimensional clarification, btw. It will help a lot of us figure things out.

Originally posted by "Id"
Well maybe if you look hard enough you can find one. But they also needed a 10 issue significant appearance. Otherwise it would be vetoed by the members.

Good point.

Originally posted by Digi
Ha! Good to know we think alike. I like the OA thing. Hadn't thought of that one, though to be fair I discarded the GL plan fairly quickly.

I specifically didn't go for an "unlock" strategy this time. As I mentioned, I've used them to great affect twice, I've seen them used well a few other times (Blair did a mutant unlock one time too, with...Jubilee?), and there's probably even more out there that we're not thinking of. But my lone tourney win was just an intelligently meshed trio with a few particular tricks for tougher opponents. I decided to follow that model again this time. Maybe it will bite me in the butt, but I also think we're a long way from knowing the result of this thing.


There's unlock and there's unlock. I remember "mega-Jubilee" (and remember me soundly trashing it with a rather crappy amalgam TBH - though that was one of two matches where the relativistic rocks of doom really rocked). My tourney debut back then with manga characters heavily used in amalgam.
Though this amalgam settled my preferences in low meta tier.

Those infinite mass rocks were hilarious. Worst thing in the world to debate against.

Jubilee having the potential to cut loose atomic bombardment was shocking, almost as shocking when I found out about Gambit and New Sun.

This aint my childhood cartoon hero, that shoots fireworks!!jr_shakefist

What's lulzy is that Emma is premier "unlocking" specialist (Jubilee, Hellion, Cyclops) yet I use this ability of hers as secondary. Maybe that is because I still remember how stupid the Mega-Jubilee looked🙂 Though not the concept itself but the method Blair used for unlock🙂

In an effort to avoid naggy PMs (😛):
curry asked me to judge the Digi/abhi match. Just so you guys are aware, I am at work for the next 2 days, so I will not be able to give my vote until at least Wednesday(Thursday at the latest.)