Silver Surfer vs Kyle Rayner

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Honestly, while Hal and Kyle will inevitably get the ridiculous whacked out high end feats, it's apparent (at least to me) that the four Earth Lanterns could all wind up besting one another on any given average day.

I don't agree tbh; I honestly feel like, as good as John and Guy are, there's always going to be something of a divide between them and Hal and Kyle.

Not trying to diss Guy and John; they still have some pretty epic showings.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't agree tbh; I honestly feel like, as good as John and Guy are, there's always going to be something of a divide between them and Hal and Kyle.

Not trying to diss Guy and John; they still have some pretty epic showings.

Which is why I said on average. I do think Hal and Kyle very clearly win the feat war exchange, but I do think that when all the Lanterns are showcased simultaneously, narration seems to indicate they're all roughly equals.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Which is why I said on average. I do think Hal and Kyle very clearly win the feat war exchange, but I do think that when all the Lanterns are showcased simultaneously, narration seems to indicate they're all roughly equals.

I can see why you see it that way, so I'm not gonna really argue about it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Which is why I said on average. I do think Hal and Kyle very clearly win the feat war exchange, but I do think that when all the Lanterns are showcased simultaneously, narration seems to indicate they're all roughly equals.

It definitely seems Kyle and Hal these days are the best of the GL's. We'll probably see more of Kyle as WL since that's Jordan's focus in NG's.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Also, didn't he forge an entire fleet of ships from the worldship with his matter manip at the end? Saw a scan online but I couldn't make out the blurry words.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-127_zps7c9eb0d7.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-131_zps1f11c90f.jpg

^ Ohhhh... that's what Nibedicus meant. Totally forgot about that.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Smh...

You've got to be the most disingenuous poster here next to Quan. You clearly have this comic in your possession, have the nerve to say I need to re-read it, and then ask where Mu's soldiers captured Earth's heroes by their own? It's on pages 19-21 just after Surfer's encounter with Reed, which you know because you posted the pages just before it occurred where Surfer is having mental issues and crashes into the meteor storm (in an attempt to again low ball Surfer) then crash lands into Reed's house.

Here:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-075_zps402be1a0.jpg - Troop teleports into Reed's house and captures Reed.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-076_zpsc25983e0.jpg - Splash page depicting Namor, Dr. Doom, Spider-Man, Colossus, Klaw, Human Torch, etc, being captured by individual members of Mu's trooper brigade.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-077_zps0d472fd6.jpg - Page showing all of the heroes and villains the troopers captured in chains being led to Mu on his ship, among them Thor, Hulk, Thing, and She Hulk.

Those "fodder troops" individually took down every Marvel heavy hitter [b]except Surfer. [/B]

Originally posted by Golgo13
At least Abhi admitted he was wrong.

Originally posted by janus77
yeah but he's consistently wrong and inconsistently honest.

This is hall of fame level shit right here. It took me a full 20 minutes to get my laugh fits under control.

^If you missed the part where it was me who got him to concede that he was wrong, then here:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok, I checked back and Champion didn't have the power gem in his fight vs earth's heroes in TIO annual. He got it in SS v3 18. My bad. Godkiller is right about that.

I agree that Surfer at his top beats Kyle.

But Surfer varies greatly in comics depending on who he's fighting and the writer.
In other words, Surfer usually does the dumbest and weakest sh!t or the most awesome sh!t ever.

Except after the upgrade where they just decided to keep him at awesome levels.

Surfer clearly wins this.

I'm still in the Mindset club and Kyle one-shots him. Then one shots Guy in the process.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^If you missed the part where it was [b]me who got him to concede that he was wrong, then here: [/B]

Oh I saw it, I just don't view self aggrandizement as particularly funny. The guy conceded the point, touche and move on.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Surfer clearly wins this.

I will give you that he wins, but not clearly. It's debatable.

Any recent scans of surfer?

I'm sure that we'll be seeing a lot of him in this "Infinite War" stuff. At least I hope so.

Originally posted by dmills
I'm sure that we'll be seeing a lot of him in this "Infinite War" stuff. At least I hope so.

They better start showing more, because Kyle has just exceeded top tier, IMO. 😛

And he has his own book. All is right with the world. 😄

Originally posted by Golgo13
They better start showing more, because Kyle has just exceeded top tier, IMO. 😛

And he has his own book. All is right with the world. 😄

He has his own monthly huh? I wouldn't know. The only comic that I had been buying on a regular was Hypernaturals by DnA which was PHUCKING PHENOMENAL. But that's over now, so I think I'll give Thor a good solid look since he's got some good cosmic going on in this Gorr arc for now.

I'm actually tempted to get back into some street level books as well. ODG whet my appetite with some Cap scans the other day. Looks good. Scarlet Spider looks good as well. I may go back and collect Flash Venom's series too.

Originally posted by dmills
He has his own monthly huh? I wouldn't know. The only comic that I had been buying on a regular was Hypernaturals by DnA which was PHUCKING PHENOMENAL. But that's over now, so I think I'll give Thor a good solid look since he's got some good cosmic going on in this Gorr arc for now.

Hmmm. What issue is Hypernaturals on now? Might check it out in trade.

It ended at 12. Best portrayal of a Doom archetype villain/anti hero since, well, Doom himself.