Silver Surfer vs Kyle Rayner

Started by Nibedicus13 pages

Also, didn't he forge an entire fleet of ships from the worldship with his matter manip at the end? Saw a scan online but I couldn't make out the blurry words.

One thing I gotta say about the Surfer, lame -@$$ characterization (IMO) but ridic powerset.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Smh...

Yeah, this conversation is over. Thank you Abhi.

Of course, post a lot of scans and think nobody would check them out and declare yourself the winner. Hurray for delph, I guess.

For the benefit of those who don't have this comic in their possession and can honestly read it's contents without a company vs company agenda, here:
Haha.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...zps69b60439.jpg - Assemblage of the class 100s led to Mu after being captured. Thor is clearly shown in panels 1 (in shackles, standing next to She Hulk), 4 (again in shackles standing next to She Hulk on her left), and 5 (Thor's shown pushing his way in front of Hulk to engage Mu).
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...zps99ff568b.jpg - After Wolverine gets humiliated in is jumping slash attempt the remaining class 100s dogpile Mu from all directions. Mu lays them all out with one epic pimp slap. Now note, there appears to be an editorial mistake in the artwork in this sequence. If you look closely at the page it appears that Namor is among the group of Class 100s that are laid out by the backhand in panel 5. However, on the very next page:
These two links are broken. Thanks for nothing.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-081_zpsfacc32cf.jpg - You can see the entire assembled group laid out on the floor from the slap except for Namor and Hulk, and Namor is depicted to have been standing back from the engagement group which was laid out by the slap with Hulk. Namor even comments "He felled them with a casual backhand blow". This sequence can be interpreted as:

A) Namor was the only member of the group that jumped Mu and was unfazed by the slap unlike his peers, and the slap somehow placed him back at Hulk's position.
B) A mistake was made in the art. Namor was shown in the group rather than Thor, though after the slap from Mu Thor is apparently among the group of people lying on the floor since Namor and Hulk are the only people left standing.
C) Namor was in two places at once and Thor didn't enter the fight at all.

Namor might be misplaced but that doesn't mean thor was there too. Thor wasn't shown anywhere in the group lying down too.

My position is B, but it's open to interpretation.

Mu Vs. Surfer:

The fight between Mu and Surfer is intermixed with cut aways to the Scientist Surfer (Earl Weygand) which Surfer gives half of his power to in order for the scientist to go up to Mu's ship and cut Mu off from his power source. Here's the entire sequence unedited and uncropped:

I posted them unedited and uncropped. Without commentary though.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-110_zpse7c8bf94.jpg - Surfer takes out troopers in Mu's ballroom
For the last ****ing time, this was a troop of Mu

Surfer only engaged Mu's ship crew. Honestly?

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-111_zpsade734a5.jpg - Mu challenges Surfer to single's combat. Surfer here uses his cosmic awareness to seek out someone to help him with his plan. Mu thinks he's mentally prepping for battle.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-112_zps6012fda5.jpg - Surfer channels half of his power into Earl Weygand, the Scientist who originally made contact with Mu and went on TV saying to welcome the aliens.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-113_zps63989761.jpg - Surfer (now at half power) blasts Mu to zero effect. Mu laughs it off and blasts Surfer away with his pinky, sending him careening through several buildings. Note that Surfer, at half power, was [b]not
one-shotted by Mu.
Seriously? Mu was obviously channeling all his power in that pinky shot, wasn't he? This is getting laughable.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-114_zpsc1a2b57f.jpg - Surfer on the ground after Mu's blast saying the more Mu gloats the more time he buys for the Scientist to carry out his plan. On this page we see Weygand transform into the Surfer as Surfer telepathically clues him in on his plan.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-115_zps1bc79a31.jpg - The Scientist attacks Mu's ship. Mu's crew believe he is running for his life from Mu and arrogantly believe they can take him and drop their shields to fire on him, which turns out to be a mistake.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-116_zpsb4566244.jpg - Scene cuts back to Surfer. fighting Mu. Surfer blasts and charges Mu to no effect. Mu grabs Surfer and attempts to absorb the Power Cosmic.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-117_zpsd168180e.jpg - Scene cuts back to Scientist fighting past Mu's troops to make his way to the generators.
Again that was only one troop and his blast actually missed the scientist. You missed the diversion though, typical.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-118_zpsca43cbfb.jpg - Mu realizes he can't absorb Surfer's power. Surfer breaks free from Mu's grasp but Mu blasts the shit out of him breaking Surfer's board and cracking his shell as well as sending Surfer flying across the city. Mu celebrates thinking he can drop the mic on this one.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-119_zps3a60ba7b.jpg - Scientist arrives at the generators but doesn't have enough juice to bring the shield down. He decides to sacrifice himself to bring the thing down and dives into the barrier.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-120_zps6e7dbd49.jpg - The energy leave the scientist as pile of ash but it shorts out the barrier. Mu stands over Surfer who appears to be leaking Power Cosmic from the cracks in his silver skin. Mu moves in for the kill.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-121_zps975b617b.jpg - The power Surfer has given to Weygand returns to him. Back at full power Surfer fires a blast at Mu's ship damaging his generator. It's Morphin' Time.
You know, you are just iterating what I said, right?
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-122_zps4d8fe922.jpg - On the ship Mu's crew is in utter chaos from all the damage the Scientist and Surfer have caused. The generators are offline.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-123_zpsfc082f8d.jpg - Mu's pissed. Surfer engages Mu with the power being fed to him cut off. Mu remarks that even without the power of a billion billion slaves I'm still master of all and knocks Surfer back.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-124_zpsb454c316.jpg - Shalla Bal is afraid because even without his Django Unchained slave master powers Mrrungo Mu is still a planet buster. Mu says that while Galactus gave Surfer power Mu was born with his power and no man is his equal (usual villain bragging). The two trade blasts and blows, then go all out in the last panel.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-125_zpsac663fc8.jpg - Mu is eventually overwhelmed for the first time ever and can't believe it. Surfer drops him.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-126_zps4433d9c0.jpg - Surfer is about to kill Mu but Mu's bottom (who Surfer smashed in this story, btw) begs for mercy.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...zpsad49f888.jpg - Surfer calms down and hugs Shalla Bal
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...zps1ff41fb3.jpg - Surfer uses the power cosmic to repair all the damage on Planet Earth caused by the Enslaver invasion.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...zps1053143b.jpg - Surfer is met by all of the Earth's heroes whose asses he just saved.

Fin.

This of course is no part of the discussion we had i.e, Amazo 2000 and the powers of all the heroes of earth. Surfer beat a powerless Murrongo-Mu who was close to him in power and who was supposedly a planet buster by lip service, all fine and dandy. Doesn't mean squat here in this discussion. Kyle's feat was flat out superior and you even comparing this to that feat is laughable. You wouldn't admit it though. So long delph, check out that eye soon.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^This reminds me of that thread in which Galan pwned the sh1t out of abhi, and everyone subsequently ganged up on the guy out of pure, unadulterated malice.

facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

Yesss yessss! Cover your face in shammmmeee, Abhi!!! 😖hifty:

😛

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer >> Oan Central Battery.

If Surfer wills it, Superman is dead.


That's why he nearly died absorbing a minuscule amount of solar energy from earth's sun, right?

Superman wills and surfer would be erased from existence itself. Hulk too.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yesss yessss! Cover your face in shammmmeee, Abhi!!! 😖hifty:

😛


That's you nabisco.

uhuh

😛

Well, at least you didn't ignore me this time...

Me being ignored makes me a sad puppy. 🙁 🙁

Edit. Haha, I actually came up with an evil nickname for you, but I'll be keeping it to myself. 😈

[Only posting since the links were apparently broken]:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-079_zps69b60439.jpg - Assemblage of the class 100s led to Mu after being captured. Thor is clearly shown in panels 1 (in shackles, standing next to She Hulk), 4 (again in shackles standing next to She Hulk on her left), and 5 (Thor's shown pushing his way in front of Hulk to engage Mu).

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-080_zps99ff568b.jpg - After Wolverine gets humiliated in is jumping slash attempt the remaining class 100s dogpile Mu from all directions. Mu lays them all out with one epic pimp slap. Now note, there appears to be an editorial mistake in the artwork in this sequence. If you look closely at the page it appears that Namor is among the group of Class 100s that are laid out by the backhand in panel 5. However, on the very next page:

^ Those pages precede Namor and Hulk engaging Mu. Thor is depicted in the group.

[My last post in this thread just to make that clarification]

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, at least you didn't ignore me this time...

Me being ignored makes me a sad puppy. 🙁 🙁

Edit. Haha, I actually came up with an evil nickname for you, but I'll be keeping it to myself. 😈


fear

Norrin

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, at least you didn't ignore me this time...

Me being ignored makes me a sad puppy. 🙁 🙁

Edit. Haha, I actually came up with an evil nickname for you, but I'll be keeping it to myself. 😈

It's always a pleasure to talk to you. You old wizard!

The only GL that could pull a majority > Norrin is Hal.

Kyle is a little beetch.

John is so so.

Guy is overrated.

Hal > Punk@$$ GL's...

Guy's easily the best character in terms of development.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Guy's easily the best character in terms of development.

That's what "character guys" say when they know they can't hack it..
Uahahaha..

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Guy's easily the best character in terms of development.

And Kyle is the most powerful of all the Lanterns now. 😛

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Also, didn't he forge an entire fleet of ships from the worldship with his matter manip at the end? Saw a scan online but I couldn't make out the blurry words.

One thing I gotta say about the Surfer, lame -@$$ characterization (IMO) but ridic powerset.

He didn't create the fleet out of thin air. He modified/shielded them in a blink:
Originally posted by Naija boy
This is a feat that shows surfers great skill as well as range. Surfer is able to protect the drivetechs of a populations worth of starships from electromagnetic distortion coming from galactus' ship just by blinking. Note that these ships are in an entirely different location from where surfer is and yet he is still able to affect them so intricately.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Silver%20surfer%20feats/Surfershieldsmillionsofshipsfrom-2.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Silver%20surfer%20feats/Surfershieldsmillionsofshipsfrom-1.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Silver%20surfer%20feats/Surfershieldsmillionsofshipsfromele.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's what "character guys" say when they know they can't hack it..
Uahahaha..

Honestly, while Hal and Kyle will inevitably get the ridiculous whacked out high end feats, it's apparent (at least to me) that the four Earth Lanterns could all wind up besting one another on any given average day.

What feats by Guy or John makes you believe that? Didn't John KO the JLA at one point?

Originally posted by Golgo13
What feats by Guy or John makes you believe that? Didn't John KO the JLA at one point?

I've fallen off of GL around the New 52, but prior to that, across the GL Corps and Emerald Warriors titles, I was given the impression that while Hal is the "main" titular Green Lantern, narration often placed them so close to one another it wouldn't be a clear decisive victory for him and a case could be made for the others.