Defense of Marriage Act 'Struck Down 5-4' By Supreme Court

Started by Oliver North8 pages

you are all sunshine, eh?

Originally posted by Cyner
In general, just looking at history, current trends, and over time a growing love and appreciation for my ancestors.

In a more detailed way:

I have spent most of my life growing up in some of the most diverse places in the US. Interacting with people of every race and background, getting to know their culture, their customs, and habits. I was brought up to love and accept all people of all races from all walks of life. My parents were very egalitarian, many times even taking in runaways or troubled youths, and so they sort of instilled in me this idea that everyone is equal.

Those ideas of complete acceptance of others were great as ideals but as I came to know the world, things didn't work out like that. It took me many many years to come to the conclusion that racism is not some horrible thing, but rather a natural occurrence, a way to protect your group and a way for your genes to express the desire to protect themselves.

Really go read the thread though if you want my actual detailed ideas on the matter.

That was a pretty odd reply. I just wanted specifics of what you do/believe that makes you racially bigoted.

All I really got is that you believe racism is natural and okay and that you don't approve of the mixing of the races.

lol, nothing. I don't feel I'm racist at all.

"Racism is natural, but I'm not a racist."

"Protecting your genes" is a concept that only has meaning from a racist perspective. The only way to truly protect your genes would be to reproduce via cloning.

Racist implies hate.

Originally posted by Cyner
lol, nothing. I don't feel I'm racist at all.

I asked you cos you said:

"I am however a huge bigot when it comes to other topics and you guys should definitely examine the "Are you a little bit racist?" thread so you can see just how bigoted and ignorant I am. It's a lot. Do it." -Cyner

And you went on to say that racism "isn't horrible" and that people shouldn't racially mix. So, are you just ****ing around for some laughs or a nutter?

Originally posted by Cyner
Racist implies hate.

I thought you said racism was a natural and beneficial practice that protects a group from outside pollution?

I'm using racism the way it's used today, to define in group preference. Instead of how it's been used in the past as actual hate and genocidal justification.

Cyner was frozen in ice in 1746

Originally posted by Cyner
I'm using racism the way it's used today, to define in group preference. Instead of how it's been used in the past as actual hate and genocidal justification.

You seem to have a tendency to say something, then go about like you never said that something or that it meant something else.

Maybe I'll just go with North's (aka inimilist) appraisal that you have a "fear of the fact you want to be anally penetrated", but I'll add "by a black dick."

eh, take it as you will then.

I suppose I was just jealous about not having a high school like this:

http://news.yahoo.com/anal-hazing-apparently-thing-american-high-schools-now-140040056.html

I'd put that in the same category as kids fermenting poop to get high...

"In tiny Greenfield, Iowa, a group of members of the Nodaway Valley High School wrestling team allegedly pinned down a 16-year-old teammate and sexually assaulted him because he had missed practice. An unidentified student told ABC affiliate KCRG that older wrestlers ordinarily forced jump role handles into the anuses of younger wrestlers who missed practice or failed to make weight."

He probably never missed practice again.

Originally posted by Oliver North
I am aware that people see the world through subjective lenses, yes

They are called "eyes". (that's the only thing I want to contribute, cause "Oh God, oh God, people...."😉

Originally posted by Cyner
I'm using racism the way it's used today, to define in group preference. Instead of how it's been used in the past as actual hate and genocidal justification.

Racism still means "actual hate and genocidal justification."

What you mean is something like bigotry, or insularity, and neither of them are benign.

Ok folks, this has drifted off topic enough I think- we're also on very dodgy ground making a thread about a poster's views on the subject rather than the subject itself, so please be careful there.

Not THAT bad on the quote warring here though, which is nice...

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd note that he did so, on purpose, to create controversy.

No, "He clearly did not mean it to be this."

I agree which is why I stopped. 😐

That's because this place has lots of posters that seem to really really play the high and mighty pedantic position. In fact, this place is one of the worst if not the worst place I have posted on, on the whole of the internet for stuff like that. It is part of why other people do not come to the GDF: the self-important wankfest that occurs here. Obviously, we all contribute to that perception so no one single person here is guilty or innocent. And even if that isn't true, it is still the perception of the frequenters of the GDF.

Actually, I have for all 3 of you (and sometimes, multiple occasions). You just don't remember those moments because you just think, "yeah, of course I'm right and obviously people agree with me."

I'd prefer this be about the topic, though. Can we stop talking about poster's peeves and posting habits? 😬

You're obviously bored.

I'm happy that you can explain what these guys are so well.

I'm ready for the bashing that they will administer now

I just told people to get back to the topic, Raisen. Don't do that in future, thanks.

So, does this mean that state laws barring gay marriage are now annulled?

no, just that the federal government can't ban it. in fact, it also means the federal government couldn't mandate that all states must allow or recognize gay marriage either. more than anything it is a blow to the US government and a win for state rights.