HERCULES vs HULK

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not sure if serious. Some washed up Mid-Heralds? Hulk's taken on the best Marvel has to offer.

Also, Hulk was capable of instantly jumping up to way beyond Herald level as far back as the Onslaught saga. At this point, it's well within reason for Hulk to jump up to Prime's strength level or beyond if the writer wanted him to and no one could even claim PIS.

Way beyond herald in the onslaught saga? Think you need to reread it.

It's well within reason for Jimmy Olson to jump to the LT's level if the writers wanted him to. Writers can do whatever yhe want.

If you want to take Hulk vs Prime to the battlezone after the tourney, I'll gladly do it.

Loser leaves KMC?

Originally posted by curryman
Way beyond herald in the onslaught saga? Think you need to reread it.

It's well within reason for Jimmy Olson to jump to the LT's level if the writers wanted him to. Writers can do whatever yhe want.

If you want to take Hulk vs Prime to the battlezone after the tourney, I'll gladly do it.

Loser leaves KMC?

Originally posted by curryman
Way beyond herald in the onslaught saga? Think you need to reread it.

It's well within reason for Jimmy Olson to jump to the LT's level if the writers wanted him to. Writers can do whatever yhe want.

If you want to take Hulk vs Prime to the battlezone after the tourney, I'll gladly do it.

Loser leaves KMC?

Then what level was he when he was battling evenly with someone who pretty clearly could rape most of Marvel's hero population simultaneously?

Okay, but Hulk has precedent for this jump. *Points to Pak's run.
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What are the parameters? A slug fest or an all out fight?

😂 GTFO

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Then what level was he when he was battling evenly with someone who pretty clearly could rape most of Marvel's hero population simultaneously?

Okay, but Hulk has precedent for this jump. *Points to Pak's run.
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What are the parameters? A slug fest or an all out fight?

😂 GTFO

Depending on the lineup it could range from Savage-Hulk doable to impossible for HOTM. Who do you feel he matched that could pull off such a stunt?

I really think you should strive to look past a single run. Getting hung up on a bad run done by one of the lesser Hulk writers simply because he tossed around a bit more hyperbole than the others seems like something some CBR munchkin would do. I expect better.

The parameters would be the same as this fight.

All out, blood-lusted fight.

To the death.

Originally posted by curryman
Who is included in most of Marvel's hero population?

Depending on the lineup it could range from Savage-Hulk doable to impossible for HOTM. Who do you feel he matched that could pull off such a stunt?

I really think you should strive to look past a single run. Getting hung up on a bad run done by one of the lesser Hulk writers simply because he tossed around a bit more hyperbole than the others seems like something some CBR munchkin would do. I expect better.

The parameters would be the same as this fight.

All out, blood-lusted fight.

To the death.

All the major Earth teams excluding guys like Surfer. I mean, at the time, Onslaught had Magneto/Xavier/Franklin/X-man power infused IIRC.

Wait what? I'm not sure what you mean. Elaborate.

Pak was on Hulk for like the last 5 years, it's very relevant as to how Hulk is now. What? A bit more hyperbole? Did you read the run? He invented an in-power scale just so we know how much more powerful Hulk is compared to everyone else. How does using relevant evidence make me a CBR munchkin?

Prime would just win through battle field removal if anything then, not really sure how Hulk can defend against that.

This discussion stems from you disagreeing about Hulk being portrayed as conclusively above Herald level as Prime no? So shouldn't strength be the debating point?

Originally posted by curryman
Who is included in most of Marvel's hero population?

Depending on the lineup it could range from Savage-Hulk doable to impossible for HOTM. Who do you feel he matched that could pull off such a stunt?

I really think you should strive to look past a single run. Getting hung up on a bad run done by one of the lesser Hulk writers simply because he tossed around a bit more hyperbole than the others seems like something some CBR munchkin would do. I expect better.

The parameters would be the same as this fight.

All out, blood-lusted fight.

To the death.

Probably here.

This board hasn't had any new members in years. It's just the circle of life.

Resurrection

@Rage...

He isn't debating on Hulk strength being above Herald level, he is debating on Hulk being in the elite Herald tier. He thinks Hulk is at the bottom, high meta to low Herald (I've had this discussion with him on many of occasions).

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Probably here.

This board hasn't had any new members in years. It's just the circle of life.

Resurrection

Originally posted by quanchi112
This was my first board but I doubt its his.

Anyway, how come you didn't make a Movie Superman sig and avy?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I see my implication flew over your butt

Anyway, how come you didn't make a Movie Superman sig and avy?

Say that again and ill cut you.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
All the major Earth teams excluding guys like Surfer. I mean, at the time, Onslaught had Magneto/Xavier/Franklin/X-man power infused IIRC.

Wait what? I'm not sure what you mean. Elaborate.

lmao, are you talking about Onslaught?

I thought you were referring to something in Pak's run.

What's impressive about Onslaught? He needed something to destroy his body. Are you implying that the Hulk defeated him? Or that he could somehow match Onslaught?

Did you somehow forget what happened after? And that it was Onslaught's plan?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Prime would just win through battle field removal if anything then, not really sure how Hulk can defend against that.

This discussion stems from you disagreeing about Hulk being portrayed as conclusively above Herald level as Prime no? So shouldn't strength be the debating point?

Obviously it would be an actual fight, not first to BFR or a match between who could lift the most.

Like I said, which you tried to weasel away from, it would be a fight to the death.

And yes, I contend the fact that Hulk's being consistently portrayed as conclusively more powerful than the other heralds.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Pak was on Hulk for like the last 5 years, it's very relevant as to how Hulk is now. What? A bit more hyperbole? Did you read the run? He invented an in-power scale just so we know how much more powerful Hulk is compared to everyone else. How does using relevant evidence make me a CBR munchkin?

Obviously it's relevant. There is a lot more to the Hulk however. Reading Pak's run and leaving it at that strikes me as the kind of scrub-behaviour you'd see from someone who has nothing in mind but VS battles.

There's more to a character than just one run. If you want to lock in on one run and then ignore anything else beyond twisting other high-feats that match your view of that character then... you know... Why even call it a run? That's basically the entirety of your Hulk. It's just what you've construed from a fraction of his showings, and not even from the current writer handling him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wait what? I'm not sure what you mean. Elaborate.

Where was it stated that Onslaught allowed Hulk to destroy his armor?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I really think you're selling Hulk short here. I don't consider myself a real fan of the guy, but really, he has plenty of feats under his Green Scar persona to suggest surviving pretty much anything Prime can throw at him (especially considering all the people who have survived prolonged battles with Prime). Between his durability and healing factor and the fact that those increase exponentially with duress along with his other attributes, I don't think Prime could easily dismiss Hulk at all outside of a BFR, which is out of character for him.

I mean, we know Prime can't or doesn't reliably one shot high heralds ever since Johns brought him back in Infinite Crisis and we know that consistently, people below him tier wise can and do harm him. And this isn't lowballing Prime, but rather pointing out pretty much what has happened every time he's faced anyone of note. Again, I don't think Hulk could beat Prime most of the time, but it's obvious, at least to me, that Hulk would definitely hurt Prime were he to connect with him and would definitely not be one shot KO'd or killed by Prime, either. To that end, I see Hulk surviving a fight with Prime based on feats from both of them. I mean, for reference sake, Hulk was literally having holes punched into him and was regenerating them almost instantly.

Originally posted by carver9
@Rage...

He isn't debating on Hulk strength being above Herald level, he is debating on Hulk being in the elite Herald tier. He thinks Hulk is at the bottom, high meta to low Herald (I've had this discussion with him on many of occasions).

Originally posted by mighty adam
BA didn't hurt prime, a superman and superboy lost his life fight prime. Prime killed 36 GL, he fcked sadom yat in the ass, survived a guardian exploding in his face. The same thing killed DD IT KILLED DOOMSDAY!! I could keep going and some green retard who stalemated a fck boy ass sentry can survive prime?

Yall lames think he beat sentry shit was a stalemate. Banner beat bob crackhead ass. Fck get back on topic with herc yall homo luv from hulk is killing my high. Think this bum can even faze prime when he couldnt beat a lackluster sentry lol the stupidity.

Originally posted by mighty adam
Yall lames think he beat sentry shit was a stalemate. Banner beat bob crackhead ass. Fck get back on topic with herc yall homo luv from hulk is killing my high. Think this bum can even faze prime when he couldnt beat a lackluster sentry lol the stupidity.

Originally posted by mighty adam
Yall lames think he beat sentry shit was a stalemate. Banner beat bob crackhead ass. Fck get back on topic with herc yall homo luv from hulk is killing my high. Think this bum can even faze prime when he couldnt beat a lackluster sentry lol the stupidity.

Yeah this is pretty far away from my opinion.

I dispute the idea that Hulk is somehow above the other heralds simply because some people can't get past Pak's garbage. Waid and Hickman are now consistently putting him on the same level as other heralds (unlike way back when it was just a spike) and keeping it steady.

One misguided writer and good showings by other writers do not put the Hulk above Thor and Surfer. And it sure as mother*ucking shi* does not put him on the same level as Prime going all out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't an all out Hulk or an all out Voided Sentry. Prime isn't beating an all out Hulk. On another level entirely in terms of physicality.