HERCULES vs HULK

Started by carver911 pages
Originally posted by mighty adam
Yall lames think he beat sentry shit was a stalemate. Banner beat bob crackhead ass. Fck get back on topic with herc yall homo luv from hulk is killing my high. Think this bum can even faze prime when he couldnt beat a lackluster sentry lol the stupidity.

Are you related to one of the mods? You have to be.

Originally posted by curryman
Yeah this is pretty far away from my opinion.

I dispute the idea that Hulk is somehow above the other heralds simply because some people can't get past Pak's garbage. Waid and Hickman are now consistently putting him on the same level as other heralds (unlike way back when it was just a spike) and keeping it steady.

One misguided writer and good showings by other writers do not put the Hulk above Thor and Surfer. And it sure as mother*ucking shi* does not put him on the same level as Prime going all out.

prime is walking pis CIS and bs in one tho. His feats and durability where beyond skyfather. Still I always wondered how ugly it would get if sentry went all out like siege but worst much worst. Or a all of Ss. I think no im a fan but not a homo I know they could have a great chance of beating the shit out of pre boot superman none sundip. He would have too tho a fight with either one would be too much for normal supes too much.

Originally posted by curryman
lmao, are you talking about Onslaught?

I thought you were referring to something in Pak's run.

What's impressive about Onslaught? He needed something to destroy his body. Are you implying that the Hulk defeated him? Or that he could somehow match Onslaught?

Did you somehow forget what happened after? And that it was Onslaught's plan?

Yes, how was that not clear when I mentioned Onslaught in the very first post?

What's impressive about Onslaught? Are serious? He was on a completely other level from regular heroes, and Hulk actually matched him in power before being temporarily overpowered, then overcoming him when he got angry:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught06OnslaughtMarvel1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught08.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught09.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught10.jpg

Post a scan that says Onslaught let Hulk destroy his armor, made himself less durable or something of the sort please. Something to make the feat unimpressive.

Originally posted by curryman
Obviously it would be an actual fight, not first to BFR or a match between who could lift the most.

Like I said, which you tried to weasel away from, it would be a fight to the death.

And yes, I contend the fact that Hulk's being consistently portrayed as conclusively more powerful than the other heralds.

You and I were discussing strength, at least I was. We can discuss who would win in a slugfest or a fist fight to the death if that's what you wish.

Lol? I specifically mentioned Hulk jumping up to Prime's strength level:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Also, Hulk was capable of instantly jumping up to way beyond Herald level as far back as the Onslaught saga. At this point, it's well within reason for Hulk to jump up to Prime's strength level if the writer wanted him to and no one could even claim PIS.

It's not my fault that you didn't properly read what I wrote. Let me make my position clear. I think Prime beats most incarnations of the Hulk in a fight excluding some of the higher end ones such as World Breaker etc. There, now do you want to continue this discussion, focusing on their strength (Which is what I originally brought up) or should I just not bother replying?

Originally posted by curryman
Obviously it's relevant. There is a lot more to the Hulk however. Reading Pak's run and leaving it at that strikes me as the kind of scrub-behaviour you'd see from someone who has nothing in mind but VS battles.

There's more to a character than just one run. If you want to lock in on one run and then ignore anything else beyond twisting other high-feats that match your view of that character then... you know... Why even call it a run? That's basically the entirety of your Hulk. It's just what you've construed from a fraction of his showings, and not even from the current writer handling him.

Yes, there is, but for the last half decade, he's been operating on a really high end level at the point that his base is at times easily on par with the strongest of heroes, which I mostly attribute to Pak's run. Throw in the fact that he's had a few upgrades over the years, including recently? Then I don't see the problem, it's only logical.

Is that some kind of joke? Are you complaining that I have a Vs. mind in a Vs. thread, in the Vs. forums? And why are you phrasing it as some kind of insult? If you're too good for such discussions, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Scrub-behaviour, lawlz, what a jackass.

Who said I'm ignoring anything? I simply pointed out that Pak is the most relevant source of information (Alongside Waid obviously) and he is. You can go as far back as the Stan Lee days, I don't particularly care, anything canon is fair game. I'll use whatever sources I find relevant though, thank you very much.

Originally posted by curryman
Like I said, I wasn't sure whether or not you were referring to Onslaught. Earth's current hero-linup vastly differs in power depending on who's present.

I was referencing Onslaught. It's hardly the only time Hulk has went far beyond Herald level in power nearly instantaneously, but it was the one that sprang to mind first is all.

Originally posted by mighty adam
atlest carver is cute with his lil crush on the hulk. I think your either troll or you really believe the dumb shit that's coming out your mouth. Its hard to Mk out. but I couse not to partake in this wild homo debate, I said my piece. Back to my weed.
Hulk all out is another animal entirely than holding back. Hulk is the physical powerhouse even Prime wouldn't want to meet up with having a bad day.

Originally posted by mighty adam
His feats and durability where beyond skyfather.

Lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, how was that not clear when I mentioned Onslaught in the very first post?

What's impressive about Onslaught? Are serious? He was on a completely other level from regular heroes, and Hulk actually matched him in power before being temporarily overpowered, then overcoming him when he got angry:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught06OnslaughtMarvel1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught08.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught09.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught10.jpg

Post a scan that says Onslaught let Hulk destroy his armor, made himself less durable or something of the sort please. Something to make the feat unimpressive.

You and I were discussing strength, at least I was. We can discuss who would win in a slugfest or a fist fight to the death if that's what you wish.

Lol? I specifically mentioned Hulk jumping up to Prime's strength level:

It's not my fault that you didn't properly read what I wrote. Let me make my position clear. I think Prime beats most incarnations of the Hulk in a fight excluding some of the higher end ones such as World Breaker etc. There, now do you want to continue this discussion, focusing on their strength (Which is what I originally brought up) or should I just not bother replying?

Yes, there is, but for the last half decade, he's been operating on a really high end level at the point that his base is at times easily on par with the strongest of heroes, which I mostly attribute to Pak's run. Throw in the fact that he's had a few upgrades over the years, including recently? Then I don't see the problem, it's only logical.

Is that some kind of joke? Are you complaining that I have a Vs. mind in a Vs. thread, in the Vs. forums? And why are you phrasing it as some kind of insult? If you're too good for such discussions, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Scrub-behaviour, lawlz, what a jackass.

Who said I'm ignoring anything? I simply pointed out that Pak is the most relevant source of information (Alongside Waid obviously) and he is. You can go as far back as the Stan Lee days, I don't particularly care, anything canon is fair game. I'll use whatever sources I find relevant, thank you very much.

I was referencing Onslaught. It's hardly the only time Hulk has went far beyond Herald level in power nearly instantaneously, but it was the one that sprang to mind first is all.

jean had to remove banner from hulk mind. And onslaught wanted to loose his shell. You do remember the ass fcking he gave hulk and everybody after hulk did that. No your brain probably blocked that out to keep your fanboy high HAAAAAAAAAAAAA your funny 😛

Originally posted by mighty adam
jean had to remove banner from hulk mind. And onslaught wanted to loose his shell. You do remember the ass fcking he gave hulk and everybody after hulk did that. No your brain probably blocked that out to keep your fanboy high HAAAAAAAAAAAAA your funny 😛

Yes, I know that, I posted -ODG's- scans myself. Onslaught evolved into a higher life-form after his shell was destroyed but curryman acted as if it was a non-feat which is just disingenuous and unfair to the Hulk. He didn't let Hulk do what he did. Can anyone post scans? Just in case I'm forgetting anything.

You keep calling me a Hulk fanboy. Why is that? I know you can't do much other then name call because frankly, you're dumb, but I'm really not.

It was never stated that Onslaught let Hulk physically crush him. A scan doesn't exist that states this. Its a rumor to downplay Hulk ft.

Originally posted by mighty adam
jean had to remove banner from hulk mind. And onslaught wanted to loose his shell. You do remember the ass fcking he gave hulk and everybody after hulk did that. No your brain probably blocked that out to keep your fanboy high HAAAAAAAAAAAAA your funny 😛
Hulk still broke it. That's impressive but seriously this feat pales in comparison to HOTM Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk still broke it. That's impressive but seriously this feat pales in comparison to HOTM Hulk.
really no the feat is beasty and its better then hotm clap.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, how was that not clear when I mentioned Onslaught in the very first post?

Post a scan that says Onslaught let Hulk destroy his armor, made himself less durable or something of the sort please. Something to make the feat unimpressive.


It wasn't clear because you were talking about something that was so far "beyond" herald and the earthly heroes, and I just couldn't believe you were actually talking about Onslaught.

Do you want to compare the line-up Onslaught fought vs what Prime fought?

My point was not that Onslaught weakened himself, but that he wanted the Hulk to destroy his physical body. I don't dispute the fact that Hulk can beat Onslaught's physical form. Seems like it didn't take more than a nuke anyways. And let's not forget the fact that the Hulk needed help;

http://imgur.com/PuKMygj

Read what Reed said;

We've been fools. He's been evolving all along...we've left ourselves with no way to attack him, etc

Does this sound like a defeat? Onslaught was still going.

http://imgur.com/nQfswZZ

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You and I were discussing strength, at least I was. We can discuss who would win in a slugfest or a fist fight to the death if that's what you wish.

Lol? I specifically mentioned Hulk jumping up to Prime's strength level:

It's not my fault that you didn't properly read what I wrote. Let me make my position clear. I think Prime beats most incarnations of the Hulk in a fight excluding some of the higher end ones such as World Breaker etc. There, now do you want to continue this discussion, focusing on their strength (Which is what I originally brought up) or should I just not bother replying?

Excuse me, but you mentioned "beyond" Prime's strength and then you edited it out as I was posting 😐

You can leave your reply in a "Superboy Prime vs Hulk" thread and see how it turns out.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, there is, but for the last half decade, he's been operating on a really high end level at the point that his base is at times easily on par with the strongest of heroes, which I mostly attribute to Pak's run. Throw in the fact that he's had a few upgrades over the years, including recently? Then I don't see the problem, it's only logical.

You attribute it mostly to Pak because he's the only writer who seems to think that Hulk is more powerful than the other heralds. The other writers portray him as an equal and/or lesser.

And anyone who is around the same level as Thor, Surfer, etc (a very generous statement), does not stand a snowball's chance in hell against Prime! When going off nothing but Pak's garbage you can barely make a case against Surfer or Thor's better runs. The idea that he is above Prime would require a far, far greater push than that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Is that some kind of joke? Are you complaining that I have a Vs. mind in a Vs. thread, in the Vs. forums? And why are you phrasing it as some kind of insult? If you're too good for such discussions, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Scrub-behaviour, lawlz, what a jackass.

Who said I'm ignoring anything? I simply pointed out that Pak is the most relevant source of information (Alongside Waid obviously) and he is. You can go as far back as the Stan Lee days, I don't particularly care, anything canon is fair game. I'll use whatever sources I find relevant though, thank you very much.


You're ignoring a ton of stuff by only trying to focus on high-end feats, and what's just sad is that you can't even muster up any particularly high-end feats at all! You act like the "hulk r so strong" hyperbole like 150 hercs is something new, or impressive, but truth is that we've been served that kind of pointless hyperbole time and time again. When push comes to shove Hulk needs his opponents to fight like retards and even then he's nothing pulling a lot of wins against the big guys, is he? Look at his ****ing opponents from HOTM!

And your VS mentality is the very reason why you see nothing but Hulk >>>>>> Onslaught when the context told a very, very different story.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I was referencing Onslaught. It's hardly the only time Hulk has went far beyond Herald level in power nearly instantaneously, but it was the one that sprang to mind first is all.

I've seen 'em all.

Originally posted by mighty adam
really no the feat is beasty and its better then hotm clap.
No, it isn't and you just crapped all over it anyway. HOTM is far better.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Hulk

SuperGod

Yall hating yall b@tchin yup yall reportin stay clicking n!ggas flagging they reporting b@tch n!ggas staying clicking yall can go on and suck my d!ck then after jump on supes shit yes I said hop on supes d!ck cuz he stay fcking up your favorite bricks yall hating yall b@tchin yall reportin stay clicking. Lol yo im high as hell dont mind me lol

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what

I'm scared.

Lol 😄 when your high you just start rappin I cant explain it shit is random.

Hulk wins.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
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what

1.- Hulk
2.- Herc