True Blood universe vs. Supernatural universe

Originally posted by -Pr-
lol, we both know I was talking about you. I thought even you would put more effort in to a deflection like that.

Also, you really should watch Supernatural. Your arguments about Death make no sense at this point, tbh. That's not even me having a go at you; they're actually factually incorrect and using bad logic.

Death can be controlled by far less powerful beings than himself. Fact. Marnie controls the dead through necromancy. Fact.

Just because you like Supernatural doesn't make my argument nonsensical.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If someone weaker than Marnie can control Death then so can Marnie. I was just using that as a reference of weaker characters than Marnie doing so.

If humans can control Death then why can't a more powerful character with power over the dead ?

The answer is clear you just say nuh uh. Common sense dictates Marnie controls him since humans can who really have in power level.

lmao spoken like someone who knows absolutely nothing about SN. Magic in supernatural is powerful and anyone has access to use it if they know where to look. Being the great hunters they are and having the contacts(and training) they do gives them access to all kinds of powerful rituals. For god sakes they could banish, trap, and even kill Angels (killing with the angle blades they have). Thats why Marnie cant do it she lacks the knowladge and contacts of the SN verse. Also because ABC logic doesn't work here. If Sam and Dean are "weaker beings" then Marnie, but were able to use magic to control and defeat and bind things out of Marnies league, it says magic in SN is simply more powerful. Anyways the Death being dead thing is far off anyways and you obviously lack the proof to your claim or you would have presented it by now so just drop that point so we can get into the actual fight at hand here.

Ooh and seriously quit saying "you say nun uh" because its all you. I have every bit of proof I need. Its called Supernatural, its a show that lines up with everything im saying. Everyone here seems to agree except you and I noticed your lack ability to present my requests yet again....

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
lmao spoken like someone who knows absolutely nothing about SN. Magic in supernatural is powerful and anyone has access to use it if they know where to look. Being the great hunters they are and having the contacts(and training) they do gives them access to all kinds of powerful rituals. For god sakes they could banish, trap, and even kill Angels (killing with the angle blades they have). Thats why Marnie cant do it she lacks the knowladge and contacts of the SN verse. Also because ABC logic doesn't work here. If Sam and Dean are "weaker beings" then Marnie, but were able to use magic to control and defeat and bind things out of Marnies league, it says magic in SN is simply more powerful. Anyways the Death being dead thing is far off anyways and you obviously lack the proof to your claim or you would have presented it by now so just drop that point so we can get into the actual fight at hand here.

Ooh and seriously quit saying "you say nun uh" because its all you. I have every bit of proof I need. Its called Supernatural, its a show that lines up with everything im saying. Everyone here seems to agree except you and I noticed your lack ability to present my requests yet again....

Pretending power levels matter when its clearly the methods in both is both Disingenouous and in bad taste.

No, it doesn't say they are more powerful it just says their ways are effective but then again so are TB methods as well. You just like SN and are looking for any reason despite the fact Death isn't even in this thread. No wonder you don't debate often.

Wrong you are citing the whole only SN rules count while ignoring another fictional universes out of bias. It's old tired and does not pertain to the thread. Give it up. It's something you exceed at.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Power level doesn't matter is the point only the methods. That's the point. We see Marnie has the methods to control the dead which has nothing to do with power level just like Dean and Sam's methods don't either.

Pretending power levels matter when its clearly the methods in both is both Disingenouous and in bad taste.

No, it doesn't say they are more powerful it just says their ways are effective but then again so are TB methods as well. You just like SN and are looking for any reason despite the fact Death isn't even in this thread. No wonder you don't debate often.

Wrong you are citing the whole only SN rules count while ignoring another fictional universes out of bias. It's old tired and does not pertain to the thread. Give it up. It's something you exceed at.

lmao you just admitted it yourself. Its the method. Marnie lacks the method to control Death im glad your finally understand. Anyways you are the one that started "talking down" magic in supernatural...insinuating it was weak. Saying things like "If Sam and Dean can do it who are much weaker then Marnie...." ect ect. If thats case Dean and Sam appear to have bound someone of much more power then Marnie has. Give me an example of Marnies Magic working on a being of Death's level.

I don't debate often because I don't enjoy debating with people that make claims and can't provide any proof yet still continue the argument. Something you seem to exceed at.

You are right about one thing though, I do really enjoy SN but what your missing is I also enjoy TB. Im arguing for the side I know wins but we haven't even gotten to that yet because your stuck on this one thing. Your one to talk about backing the side you like. You have talked down the SN verse and you made another thread about TB verse twilight. All while wearing your Russel sig. Im sure people really have to wonder who you think wins right from the jump🙄. When I came into this thread I simply mentioned you being wrong about Death being dead. I have no problem arguing without using death in the actual fight....but until you move on from this we can't even do that. It's simple your not right and you lost the argument about Marnie controlling Death. Now lets move on to the fight at hand because you and your lack of proof is concession enough.

Anyways yea I was debating the rules that govern Death FROM SUPERNATURAL. You don't even know if necromancy works on him as it has never been used on him for one and two he's not dead.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I will get the last word in with this guy.

Marnie controls all the dead characters and they kill each other. 😂

I highly (and hoping for your sake) doubt that you'll say that that a human witch like Marnie with her necromancy could control DC/Marvel Death?

Actually do to with the thread:
"New strat to add to the others: Eve 'works out' a vampire trapped in hell, comes back later and shuts down all vamps powers. :T"

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
lmao you just admitted it yourself. Its the method. Marnie lacks the method to control Death im glad your finally understand. Anyways you are the one that started "talking down" magic in supernatural...insinuating it was weak. Saying things like "If Sam and Dean can do it who are much weaker then Marnie...." ect ect. If thats case Dean and Sam appear to have bound someone of much more power then Marnie has. Give me an example of Marnies Magic working on a being of Death's level.

I don't debate often because I don't enjoy debating with people that make claims and can't provide any proof yet still continue the argument. Something you seem to exceed at.

You are right about one thing though, I do really enjoy SN but what your missing is I also enjoy TB. Im arguing for the side I know wins but we haven't even gotten to that yet because your stuck on this one thing. Your one to talk about backing the side you like. You have talked down the SN verse and you made another thread about TB verse twilight. All while wearing your Russel sig. Im sure people really have to wonder who you think wins right from the jump🙄. When I came into this thread I simply mentioned you being wrong about Death being dead. I have no problem arguing without using death in the actual fight....but until you move on from this we can't even do that. It's simple your not right and you lost the argument about Marnie controlling Death. Now lets move on to the fight at hand because you and your lack of proof is concession enough.

Anyways yea I was debating the rules that govern Death FROM SUPERNATURAL. You don't even know if necromancy works on him as it has never been used on him for one and two he's not dead.

Death isn't even in the thread. You seem consumed on arguing it anyways. Trolling.

Necromancy works. Death is dead. Get over it.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You've yet to say to me nor BZ why Death is a dead character. Why being the personification makes him the physical state. How can a being that is either alive or is outside life/death be one of the deceased? How can something thats has existed before life/death be dead? Saying 'its because he's death' is a baseless, unsupported and claim.

I highly (and hoping for your sake) doubt that you'll say that that a human witch like Marnie with her necromancy could control DC/Marvel Death?

Actually do to with the thread:
"New strat to add to the others: Eve 'works out' a vampire trapped in hell, comes back later and shuts down all vamps powers. :T"

Eve is controlled by Marnie. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have watched the series up to season 8 on Netflix.

Death can be controlled by far less powerful beings than himself. Fact. Marnie controls the dead through necromancy. Fact.

Just because you like Supernatural doesn't make my argument nonsensical.

No, your argument being nonsensical makes it so. You cant just make shit up and ignore facts when it suits you.

Lol @ accusing me of bias though, you black pot you.

But please, tell me how death would be controlled.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, your argument being nonsensical makes it so. You cant just make shit up and ignore facts when it suits you.

Lol @ accusing me of bias though, you black pot you.

But please, tell me how death would be controlled.

Death has been controlled. Your nuh uh responses are typical.

Watch the show we see him easily controlled. Marnie can control the dead. 1+1=2.

Well, supposedly you can kill Death with his own scythe (the rusty thing Dean first approached him with).

Originally posted by quanchi112
Power level doesn't matter just proven methods work. Both have proven methods so the evidence favors me.

Death isn't even in the thread. You seem consumed on arguing it anyways. Trolling.

Necromancy works. Death is dead. Get over it.

Im gonna simply break this down....

1) ONE of them have a proven method of controlling Death from SN.....

2) I don't care if he is or he isn't. I came into this thread correcting you when you said he was Dead. You chose to argue it with me yet im consumed with arguing it? lmao. Its been what a week that you have been basing things on your own say so and calling it proof and not given me my requests?...yet im trolling?! lmao

3) Show me Necromancy works on Death and prove to me he is dead.

Originally posted by Astner
Well, supposedly you can kill Death with his own scythe (the rusty thing Dean first approached him with).

Exactly. If Death were dead I don't see it killing him. They clearly say in the show that it can even kill its owner......

Originally posted by Astner
Well, supposedly you can kill Death with his own scythe (the rusty thing Dean first approached him with).

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Exactly. If Death were dead I don't see it killing him. They clearly say in the show that it can even kill its owner......

Horrible logic to the nth power.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Im gonna simply break this down....

1) ONE of them have a proven method of controlling Death from SN.....

2) I don't care if he is or he isn't. I came into this thread correcting you when you said he was Dead. You chose to argue it with me yet im consumed with arguing it? lmao. Its been what a week that you have been basing things on your own say so and calling it proof and not given me my requests?...yet im trolling?! lmao

3) Show me Necromancy works on Death and prove to me he is dead.

I know you don't care about anything other than yourself.

Necromancy works on the dead. Point proven.

Originally posted by quanchi112
the reason I believe Marnie can control them is characters from the SN show have.

Eve is controlled by Marnie.

Lucifer, a being so far above Marnie its not worth thinking about, bound Death to him with the "Death binding ritual". And what happened when Death was told to destroy Chicago with the storm? He casually turned his storm off when Dean asked.

So either prove, with canon evidence, that Death can be controlled with necromancy or prove that her necromancy works just like the binding ritual.

Eve wasn't dead 😐 now I think you're just trolling.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Death cannot be 'controlled', he gets 'bound'.

Lucifer, a being so far above Marnie its not worth thinking about, bound Death to him with the "Death binding ritual". And what happened when Death was told to destroy Chicago with the storm? He casually turned his storm off when Dean asked.

So either prove, with canon evidence, that Death can be controlled with necromancy or prove that her necromancy works just like the binding ritual.

Eve wasn't dead 😐 now I think you're just trolling.

Marnie uses rituals and spells to do these things just like Dean, etc.

We see he can be controlled. Destroy her body. Same old same old.

Dean sure killed her.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bound, controlled, semantics.

Marnie uses rituals and spells to do these things just like Dean, etc.

We see he can be controlled. Destroy her body. Same old same old.

Dean sure killed her.

Bound = character still has control

Right, because she's just going to suddenly know the spell just like that? I forgot TB had omniscient beings..

So either prove, with canon evidence, that Death can be controlled with necromancy or prove that her necromancy works just like the binding ritual. Prove something for once, its not that hard.

Do you hear yourself? "Dean killed her so she must have been dead before he killed her" 😐

Originally posted by BloodRain
Controlled = character does her bidding

Bound = character still has control

Right, because she's just going to suddenly know the spell just like that? I forgot TB had omniscient beings..

So either prove, with canon evidence, that Death can be controlled with necromancy or prove that her necromancy works just like the binding ritual. Prove something for once, its not that hard.

Do you hear yourself? "Dean killed her so she must have been dead before he killed her" 😐

That is one way we know of and since it can happen we know her magic works the same.

Evidence leans towards me not yourself.

I said she is dead now. She is. She can be killed. Marnie kills her.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, so we know he can be controlled. Fact.

I know you don't care about anything other than yourself.

Necromancy works on the dead. Point proven.

Yes we do...by the ritual he was bound with. No other method has been shown to work. Fact.....and your conclusion that one method works so any works is so entirely flawed. Thats like saying we have seen Sam and Dean trap a demon with a Devils trap and vampires from TB have been trapped with silver......they must be interchangeable. Im sure you can see how retarded that is...

"I know you don't care about anything other then yourself" How would you know that? You know me IRL? lmao butt hurt?!

Yeah I can agree Necromancy works on the dead. but you don't need to prove that as im sure everyone knows that. You just have to prove Death is dead....which you can not because he's not.....If he was you would have provided me with the proof I have been asking for about a week.