Originally posted by The Sorrow
Again that isn't shown, would've had to have been a extremely quick ko if Banner was able to transform aswell in the space of 30 seconds but your entitled to your opinion of course.
It was a quick knock out for Hulk, and even shorter one for Thor as he went to get the prisoner from the Frost Giant keep and came back just as Banner woke up.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
And do you think his fight with SBP is going to be a cakewalk? It could potentially be a long battle. His fight with the Hulk and Thing wasn't long in fact as far as fights go it was fairly brief, after his big lightning attack on Hulk he collapsed. IIRC Thor's wound wasn't shown once in Fear Itself yet this arc and his own book had the same writer. Personally I don't believe it was a factor.
Did I say that? It will be. Unfortunately, it was fairly standard for a comic book nowadays. Also, I have no idea why you think this fight is evidence that big attacks can cause Thor to collapse as Thor collided with the Hulk in the end there, he took damage.
What you believe is contradictory to what was shown in the comics. The wound was a major factor and was still present as shown in Fear Itself #7.2:
I also believe the wound Odin was referring to was the same one in Fear Itself #6 but I guess that's open to interpretation:
If it was never brought up again? You'd have a point, sure. That's only logical, but it was.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Which will prove what exactly? That Thor doesn't always over-exert himself? No shit dude. It doesn't have any relevance to the times he has. One of which happened very recently, can't just discredit it because you don't like it. I might've recalled the scene under JMS incorrectly as I iirc it took the form of lightning leaving his body but that's still an example of him over-exerting himself. That's 3 instances off the dome and i'm sure if I sifted through his appearances since 2007 I could find more.
That his high end attacks like lightning don't cause him to fatigue like you argued. Only something like the God Blast and such, and even that's debatable due to contradictory evidence.
Yes, Thor overexerted himself but whatever this was, is in no way comparable to large lightning bolts or huge energy blasts. This was actively causing him pain, it could have killed him. I'm guessing it relied on his own life force to restore his loved ones:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16161192/Thor_06_Zone_and_Picozzi_pg018.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16161195/Thor_06_Zone_and_Picozzi_pg019.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16161198/Thor_06_Zone_and_Picozzi_pg020.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16161200/Thor_06_Zone_and_Picozzi_pg021.jpg.html
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Go ahead, sift. Find everything you can, every example you can twist into supporting your point. Then I'll destroy your argument with counter evidence so I don't have to hear this again. The only actual example was from Indestructible Hulk. And maybe his last resort blast in the fight with Galactus/Scrier/The Other but those forces are hardly comparable to Prime, not to mention he withstood damage earlier and it was almost like a God Blast, it drew on his own innate power which energy blasts/lightning bolts/big attacks don't.
So you have one example, over a younger Thor mind you.
Originally posted by ODG
There isn't anything wrong with that, even if you're incorrect with your overgeneralizing. But that's not the question I asked.
No overgeneralizing. I think the Thor fans were upset about it being stated that it would be a cakewalk for Prime. Personally, as far as the overall outcome is concerned, I see Thor fighting valiantly but not being able to take even 1/10.
Originally posted by SundippedThese Thor fans... look how upset they are:
No overgeneralizing. I think the Thor fans were upset about it being stated that it would be a cakewalk for Prime. Personally, as far as the overall outcome is concerned, I see Thor fighting valiantly but not being able to take even 1/10.
Originally posted by -Pr-
That said, not sure how this match will go. My gut says Thor, though.
Originally posted by curryman
A CIS/PIS'less Thor would soul-suck the first second of the fight.
Originally posted by Naija boy
If as Carver the thread starter specified every power Thor had ever shown is viable, and going by the safe assumption that Thor fights with a modicum of common sense, this is not a simple battle for prime at all. Arguments that center merely on the act of "Team busting" without taking into account the actual details of the battles in question are particularly poor in this type of thread scenario as the performance levels and effectiveness of characters in the comics is greatly divergent from what it would be in a CIP free situation.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
👆 yep, i just read the op, agreed, that thor puts a fight.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Thor with the stips
Originally posted by deathlife
With the OPs stip, this will be a tough as hell fight that could go either way.
Originally posted by the Darkone
This is not a easy win for prime what so ever to say is delusional.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombI think the trends of this thread are more about Superman Prime fans being upset that not everyone is agreeing with them that he beats CIS/CIP-less Thor 10/10... and then being a$$-backwards about it and accusing Thor fans of being upset.
Anyway, Thor has the power to not only make this tough, but win as well. Not saying he will, but he can definitely tank the physicality of SBP long enough to pull off his higher end abilities.
We call that projection.
@ODG
Make that the "hardcore" Thor fans.
Why would we (Prime supporters/me included) be upset?
A handful or two of those who oppose means nothing to us.
We got the edge far as support
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Prime kills him easily
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I dunno. SBP laughing off Black Adam's magically amped punches and Mordru's magic blast makes me think that he would barely feel it.
SBP would slaughter Thor IMHO.
Originally posted by Cogito
SBP wins easily. Unless Thor-bags believe Thor could trash half of Earth's heroes, hundreds of Green Lanterns, and all the other crazy shit SBP has effortlessly done.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Prime destroys Thor.I don't see how this isn't spite.
Originally posted by Galan007
Thor gets a hammer shoved up his ass. 👆
Originally posted by zopzop
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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
sbp could move at superspeed and just gently tap thor in the shoulder and then thor is gone.
hv at superspeed and thor gets a hole in the head, if we are going that rout.
Like galan said
Thor gets his hammer up his ass, imo.
Originally posted by abhilegend
👆Prime then cries over Thor's raped body.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
SBP wins convincingly every time.
Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nG
sadly Thor still winds up in a ditch somewhere with his anus where his ear goes and vice versa.
^ There are more but my fingers are starting to hurt from all the copy/pasting. 😂
Now if a side was going to be upset I wonder which side would it be? mmm I sympathize with whatever side that is.
Should've been a poll attached to this one.
Majority rules, the forum has spoken! 🤘
Originally posted by Sundipped
So has everyone agreed yet that Thor goes down 10/10 fights? If not for the mystical resistance, Thor can get credit for maybe 3/10 at the most.
No one sensible would agree with that stance because it's genuinely idiotic. Thor has pulled upsets over more powerful beings than Prime.
Smart energy absorption alone should net him 1-3/10 wins.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No one sensible would agree with that stance because it's genuinely idiotic. Thor has pulled upsets over more powerful beings than Prime.Smart energy absorption alone should net him 1-3/10 wins.
Woah there....strong choice of words with that term "idiotic".
He won't pull one on Prime with that resistance issue.
Ok 1 if he's lucky enough to start out with that tactic of energy manipulation without getting his dome pushed in.
Originally posted by Sundipped
Woah there....strong choice of words with that term "idiotic".
He won't pull one on Prime with that resistance issue.
Ok 1 if he's lucky enough to start out with that tactic of energy manipulation without getting his dome pushed in.
Maybe, I'm sorry if I offended you. Still think it's kind of dumb. 😛
Being resistant to magic as opposed to vulnerable won't save him from Thor's bag of tricks. I'm curious how Mjolnir will affect Prime. The Odin Force has been portrayed as divine and cosmic as well as magical and Mjolnir has actively bypassed magical based enchantments/resistance.
We've seen him directly manipulate pure Solar energy and drain beings powered by energy dry. It's going to be a serious problem for Prime as Supermen being powered by the Sun is common knowledge according to forum rules as I understand it. Doesn't help that Prime can be a real coward the moment he gets in trouble and will most likely panic.
Originally posted by Sundipped
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Meh...I understand all of that and I gave him a win which was within your 1-3/10 range. I understand that Thor is an emotional topic for you so can we let this go now rage?
Not until you admit Thor wins. Ask yourself this, what's more important to you, this thread or your life?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No one sensible would agree with that stance because it's genuinely idiotic. Thor has pulled upsets over more powerful beings than Prime.Smart energy absorption alone should net him 1-3/10 wins.
Doesn't Emo Boy Prime need to project energy for Thor to absorb it, though?
His magic resist really is ridiculous, the way he shrugged off Mordru's attacks, a character that could stand against a Skyfather..
But I hate EBP, and Thor does have some decent upsets. I'll say it's a 4/6 split in SBP's favor..
