Thor (CIS/CIP OFF) vs Superboy Prime

Originally posted by zopzop
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or serious but that's basically how it would go down.

PIS/CIS/writer armor OFF, imagine what it feels like to be speedblitzed by a being that's strong enough to do this :

For comparison sake, this was the Celestial assault vs Thanos during the IG saga :

Nothing short of a Skyfather would survive a PIS/CIS/Writer Armor OFF speedblitz from SBP.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering Prime has consistently had issues trying to KO or kill Conner (multiple times) and couldn't even put down the abortion of Sodam Yat until after a prolonged fight, I don't think Thor is going to easily be handled by Prime.

And yeaaaaah...Prime didn't display anything remotely close to multi-planet towing strength since his return to comics in Infinite Crisis. And even if you think he retained that level of strength (I'd be curious as to why anyone would), he didn't display it in combat. At all.

biscuits

Originally posted by Badabing
Considering blah blah blah blaaaaah.

biscuits

You should seriously photoshop the face of Doom and replace it with yours.

Call yourself:

Raptor Doom

or better yet:

Deinonychus Doom

Bada using Doom against me is like blasting Superboy Prime with yellow sun.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Bada using Doom against me is like blasting Superboy Prime with yellow sun.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have fallen from grace with the house of El.

I am the House of El.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
You should seriously photoshop the face of Doom and replace it with yours.

Call yourself:

[b]Raptor Doom

or better yet:

Deinonychus Doom [/B]

👆

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Bada using Doom against me is like blasting Superboy Prime with yellow sun.

Originally posted by carver9
CIS and CIP is off for THOR.

Prime casually walks around with CIS off, so I don't need to remove it for him since he rarely if ever hold back.

No BFRING for this fight. Who wins?

Originally posted by Uriel005
... his CIS is just being outright overconfident and a stupid whiny bint. That said Thor can't take him in a straight physical fight and his magic at his best is still nowhere near mordru. Prime takes it

Thor's offensive options (which go beyond just magic and veers into cosmic and divine properties) have done numbers on skyfathers and abstract beings. Unless you think the blast Mordru unleashed on Prime > Thor's best attacks/showings or Prime > Galactus, Celestials, Odin, etc.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

I am the House of El.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's offensive options (which go beyond just magic and veers into cosmic and divine properties) have done numbers on skyfathers and abstract beings. Unless you think the blast Mordru unleashed on Prime > Thor's best attacks/showings or Prime > Galactus, Celestials, Odin, etc.

Asking if Prime is > those cosmics is kind of misleading, since he was never anywhere close to posing a threat to any of them. (Even against Big G, there was context...)

If Thor ever did/does defeat Odin, I think it's safe to say that's clear cut PIS...

Originally posted by Sundipped
@ODG

Make that the "hardcore" Thor fans.
Why would we (Prime supporters/me included) be upset?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Now if a side was going to be upset I wonder which side would it be?

The dark side clouds the house of El

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's offensive options (which go beyond just magic and veers into cosmic and divine properties) have done numbers on skyfathers and abstract beings. Unless you think the blast Mordru unleashed on Prime > Thor's best attacks/showings or Prime > Galactus, Celestials, Odin, etc.

Originally posted by cdtm
Asking if Prime is > those cosmics is kind of misleading, since he was never anywhere close to posing a threat to any of them. (Even against Big G, there was context...)

If Thor ever did/does defeat Odin, I think it's safe to say that's clear cut PIS...

When I ask if Prime is > those cosmics, I mean whether or not he'd be able to weather the same attacks which have staggered or outright harmed them to a greater degree than they did. And while Thor may not have had a shot to outright beat some of them, it was clear he was able to damage them and in some cases, cause them pain for the first time in eons. To that end, is Prime so mindnumbingly durable or fortified against magic (which is really just one aspect to Thor's offensive options) that he would be able to endure the attacks which have shattered the dome of a Celestial, repelled Galactus, forced Glory to cry out, grievously injured Surtur, straight up crippled Zelia, etc.

Without context or plot device, yeah, it would be PIS if Thor beat Odin. That said, Thor has a history of feats suggesting he can and has hurt Odin before.

Originally posted by Uriel005
no but i do think that if prime were to deliver a retcon level punch to thor's face it would be over pretty quickly. Also theres the fact that I don't think Thor could take Sodom after wiping most of the available heroes with relative ease.

Prime doesn't "retcon punch" characters willy nilly (or really, at all). Pretty sure reality was a-okay after all the times he punched Conner, Sodam Yat, Superman, etc. Prime was effectively repowered after attacking the heroes and getting swarmed, so when he fought Yat, he was basically refreshed and ready to go. Considering Yat as Ion was a complete and epic fail, I really don't see how someone with an overall better array of feats such as Thor operating in a wildly OOC manner would fare any worse than Yat did.

Heck, to be honest, a CISless/CIP Thor would do significantly better than Yat did if their positions were switched.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
The dark side clouds the house of El

Prime punches had a small role in the retcon. It was the room they were in that played the major role in retconning anything.

😂

I mean, if I or anyone else is so out of line or radical, by all mean, please explain? Considering my stance is that this is anything but a cakewalk for Prime and Thor could at least score a handful of wins (I haven't even argued him winning for the majority), I really and honestly don't see what's so crazy about Thor's absurd power set being utilized to its maximum efficency in an OOC manner.

His offensive measures under the OP are clearly at a level where he will hurt Prime. That's indisputable.

His defensive measures under the OP are clearly at a level where he can defend himself against Prime. That's indisputable.

His raw physical prowess under the OP is clearly at a level where Prime cannot easily dismiss him. That's also indisputable.

Am I wrong here?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering Prime has consistently had issues trying to KO or kill Conner (multiple times) and couldn't even put down the abortion of Sodam Yat until after a prolonged fight, I don't think Thor is going to easily be handled by Prime.

And even if you think he retained that level of strength (I'd be curious as to why anyone would), he didn't display it in combat. At all.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😂

I mean, if I or anyone else is so out of line or radical, by all mean, please explain? Considering my stance is that this is anything but a cakewalk for Prime and Thor could at least score a handful of wins (I haven't even argued him winning for the majority), I really and honestly don't see what's so crazy about Thor's absurd power set being utilized to its maximum efficency in an OOC manner.

His offensive measures under the OP are clearly at a level where he will hurt Prime. That's indisputable.

His defensive measures under the OP are clearly at a level where he can defend himself against Prime. That's indisputable.

His raw physical prowess under the OP is clearly at a level where Prime cannot easily dismiss him. That's also indisputable.

Am I wrong here?