Hancock vs. Zod

Started by Silent Master25 pages
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The World Machines were drilling through to influence Earth Crust. Who knows how much damage the shockwaves unleashed by it would have done to the surface of the planet. Very little is known about the World Machine at the moment so give me a break. Your train argument have been defeated so suck it up.

I haven't made a train argument, I'm asking if your stance is still that the world engine can destroy Earth.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I haven't made a train argument, I'm asking if your stance is still that the world engine can destroy Earth.

I have clarified my position in this regard. Do not expect responses from me to your parroting attempts.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I have clarified my position in this regard. Do not expect responses from me to your parroting attempts.

Looked more like you were changing your argument and hoping that people would forget about your earlier claim, however I'm glad that you've admitted that it can't destroy the Earth.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Looked more like you were changing your argument and hoping that people would forget about your earlier claim, however I'm glad that you've admitted that it can't destroy the Earth.

Suppose that a bomb is developed and used which destroys all countries and exterminates all life forms on Earth. What is your interpretation of this?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Suppose that a bomb is developed and used which destroys all countries and exterminates all life forms on Earth. What is your interpretation of this?

If the Earth is still there, then it wasn't destroyed.

BTW, If the engine was going to destroy all of the countries on Earth, where were Zod and the other Kryptonians going to live?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If the Earth is still there, then it wasn't destroyed.

What is your interpretation of the kind of event that I described?

Originally posted by Silent Master
BTW, If the engine was going to destroy all of the countries on Earth, where were Zod and the other Kryptonians going to live?

They didn't needed Earth-like conditions for survival. The World Machines were going to transform Earth into Kryptonian condition suitable for Kryptonians. Of-course, Earth mass would have existed and required; how changed it would have been is open to debate.

The World Engine was on its way to destroying earth's entire ecosystem.

All countries would have been essentially destroyed as we know them. They would have had to build their world from the ground up.

my 2 cents.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
What is your interpretation of the kind of event that I described?

I just told you, if the planet is still there, then is wasn't a planet destroying level attack.

They didn't needed Earth-like atmosphere to live. The World Machines were going to transform Earth into Krypton like condition suitable for Kryptonians. [/B]

If there is no land left, then where were they going to live?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I just told you, if the planet is still there, then is wasn't a planet destroying level attack.

If there is no land left, then where were they going to live?


I haven't stated or implied that the World Engines were going to shatter Earth to pieces or they were planted for this task; my original statement have metaphorical vibe.

However, World Machines would have changed Earth fundamentally (both atmosphere and surface situation) which would have resulted in virtual destruction of all countries and extermination of all life forms on Earth. To many humans; this sounds like destroying the planet (in metaphorical sense).

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I disagree about the whole not invalidating earlier movies, but you're on point about the world engine.

LOL@Train doing the same damage as the world engine. What a stupid statement.

what shockwaves is this dude talking about? There were no shockwaves. There was an increasing radius of gravity being projected... the ground was not shaking at all between the bursts of gravity... there was no shockwaves going through the Earth.

Also...

Originally posted by marwash22
Kal struggled under the gravity, and the feat almost killed him. You have no idea how much gravity was being projected by the engine.

hancock stopped like 5k tons of force without being moved and without being harmed at all.

unquantifiable feat that almost kills the person involved < quantifiable feat that had zero effect on the person involved.

until you come up with figures that give an estimate for how much force was being pushed down on Kal while under the world machine, the argument of the feat being greater than the train feat is nonsense.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I haven't stated or implied that the World Engines were going to shatter Earth to pieces or they were planted for this task; my original statement have metaphorical vibe.

However, World Machines would have changed Earth fundamentally (both atmosphere and surface situation) which would have resulted in virtual destruction of all countries and extermination of all life forms on Earth. To many humans; this sounds like destroying the planet (in metaphorical sense).

Your original statement was

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The World Engines would have destroyed entire planet, if superman had not stopped them.

I'm glad that you've backed off this claim and instead are now just arguing that it would terraform Earth into a Krypton like planet.

Regardless, Superman's feat against World Machine is unprecedented display of power even by Marvel character standards.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Regardless, Superman's feat against World Machine is unprecedented display of power even by Marvel character standards.

Is it really that hard to admit that your original claim was wrong?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Regardless, Superman's feat against World Machine is unprecedented display of power even by Marvel character standards.
a feat you can't even begin to quantify is unprecedented?

This ends now uhuh

Originally posted by marwash22
a feat you can't even begin to quantify is unprecedented?

What quantification is needed about it?

you need to prove that the force of gravity being projected from the machine, that almost killed Kal, is beyond that of the force the train had when it impacted Hancock and failed to move him from his position or harm him in any way.

Originally posted by marwash22
you need to prove that the force of gravity being projected from the machine, that almost killed Kal, is beyond that of the force the train had when it impacted Hancock and failed to move him from his position or harm him in any way.

The forces generated by World Machine were throwing vehicles hundreds of meters above ground (crushing them in the process); sending shockwaves through the whole mass of the planet which is thousands of kms wide; destroying gigantic buildings around; lifting oceanic waters and vice versa. It is apparent from these developments that such forces were of unprecedented scale. Sounds like millions of tons of pressure or greater...

Originally posted by marwash22
you need to prove that the force of gravity being projected from the machine, that almost killed Kal, is beyond that of the force the train had when it impacted Hancock and failed to move him from his position or harm him in any way.
Dont forget Kal was weak during the entire ordeal. Kal escaping a black hole > world engine feat anyway