Thor Vs Mr. Majestic

Originally posted by abhilegend
No. I'm comparing two statements. You seem to take one as gospel and other doesn't matter.

Because the writer wasn't as smart as you, obviously. We've seen heaven's ladder moving earth at FTL speed and it didn't break apart either. Stop using real life science in comics.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm describing the panels as they are.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman doubting himself and then doing it anyway. He said PC superboy was vastly stronger than him and yet he stalemated him in a contest of strength and Zod compared his punch to superboy. Or maybe I'm not a marvel dickrider trying to dismiss a superman feat and actually knows how Byrne wrote superman. Stick to hyping Thor's feats.

I know u've been hard at work to advertise Supes in any thread he's not even involved in, but at least make correct interpretation of feats and not create fantastical ones through blind interpretation.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Even if Majestic has the strength edge, Mjolnir would still give Thor the advantage in hand to hand.

And Thor's at least as durable.

The only reason I would give Thor an edge over Majestic in hand is Thor's hammer but if Majestic had his blade I would give the advantage back to Majestic.

Superman gets to be Superman in comics but in a fight I would put Thor above him and Majestic above him as well for their attitudes out of gate of generally wanting to put down threats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman wasn't losing at any point in that match. I don't know why you keep trying to salvage Thor's dignity regarding JLA/Avengers.

Superman was the one who was knocked around and down during the hand to hand encounter. And his speech was getting slurred while Thor was fine indicating that he was starting to feel it.

Me trying to give each character their due is somehow wrong?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
And yet in THIS PARTICULAR STORY, Byrne went out of his way to apply real world science or at least something close to that. Don't dismiss what's there on panel.

I know u've been hard at work to advertise Supes in any thread he's not even involved in, but at least make correct interpretation of feats and not create fantastical ones through blind interpretation.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman was the one who was knocked around and down during the hand to hand encounter. And his speech was getting slurred while Thor was fine indicating that he was starting to feel it.

Me trying to give each character their due is somehow wrong?

Yeah, not buying that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was a lightning bolt which pushed him into the forest. Also that was indication of superman getting angry going by that speech he gave. Or do you think a feeling bad superman got that beating from all those avengers and got up at the same time as Thor?

Yeah, not buying that.

What? A lightning bolt? Based on what? That trail left by Superman is completely in-line with how Mjolnir was hitting people in that series. Not to mention Thor immediately comes out whirling Mjolnir. Maybe but it's consistent with the speech design they used while weary so that's what I'm going with.

What? A feeling bad Superman what?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I have always considered Majestic to be beyond Supes. I am surprised that you actually think that Superman would be stronger, or (even bigger shocker here) more versatile than M. Tbh, I have come to accept that line of thinking from those Super-fans who hate Superman's clones in other comics. I am surprised you too subscribe to this belief system.

Belief system is a bit strong. In the end, it just comes down to feats. Superman has more shots at high feats, so there ya go.

I'd almost be on board with you here, but Majestic's durability does tend to hover lower than Kal's. Majestic is more skilled, and I see them almost a wash in strength and other powers.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I still don't know why people give Majestic the strength edge over Thor. Superman I understand, but Majestic? He hasn't it earned, same goes for Gladiator. And if he does, it's so minor that Mjolnir more then makes up for that. Superman may have won their fight, but he was actually losing in close combat against Thor with Mjolnir until he used heat vision. Captain Marvel also seemed to be far more affected by Mjolnir then vise versa. Even if Majestic has the strength edge, Mjolnir would still give Thor the advantage in hand to hand.

And Thor's at least as durable.

I was careful not to explictly give Maj a strength edge. It's close.

Majestic is more skilled, and has a combat speed edge. Thor can still obviously win, but without Kal's magic weakness (and yes, I know Supes fans, even that is variable), Majestic has a better chance at beating Thor than Superman imo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman wasn't losing at any point in that match. I don't know why you keep trying to salvage Thor's dignity regarding JLA/Avengers.

Iirc, that's non-canon, yeah? And fan voted, if memory serves, which means Superman will obviously win.

Besides, it was a close fight. Even if it were canon, it wouldn't be a terrible loss for either one.

I don't think JLA/Avengers was fan-voted. DC vs. Marvel was, though.

Anyhow, while certain parts of JLA/Avengers are canon to DC(the Krona plot, namely) it isn't regarded as canon to Marvel at all, afaik.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? A lightning bolt? Based on what? That trail left by Superman is completely in-line with how Mjolnir was hitting people in that series. Not to mention Thor immediately comes out whirling Mjolnir. Maybe but it's consistent with the speech design they used while weary so that's what I'm going with.

What? A feeling bad Superman what?

We see lightning and no mjolnir attacking superman just like he smashed J'onn in that building with lightning.

A weary superman took the beating from Hercules, Vision, an amped Iron man, Simon and She-hulk and got up at the same time as thor?

Originally posted by Digi
Belief system is a bit strong. In the end, it just comes down to feats. Superman has more shots at high feats, so there ya go.

I'd almost be on board with you here, but Majestic's durability does tend to hover lower than Kal's. Majestic is more skilled, and I see them almost a wash in strength and other powers.

I was careful not to explictly give Maj a strength edge. It's close.

Majestic is more skilled, and has a combat speed edge. Thor can still obviously win, but without Kal's magic weakness (and yes, I know Supes fans, even that is variable), Majestic has a better chance at beating Thor than Superman imo.

Iirc, that's non-canon, yeah? And fan voted, if memory serves, which means Superman will obviously win.

Besides, it was a close fight. Even if it were canon, it wouldn't be a terrible loss for either one.

I consider Maj stronger than both Thor ans Superman going by what he has done. His latest showing had him pushing earth back into place, with ease. Like I've stated before, no Herald has accomplished this.

JLA/Avengers is not fan voted. Certain fights from DC vs. Marvel were.

JLA/Avengers isn't canon to Marvel and the Krona plot is canon to DC to an extent. DC vs. Marvel was semi canon for both.

Originally posted by Digi
I was careful not to explictly give Maj a strength edge. It's close.

Majestic is more skilled, and has a combat speed edge. Thor can still obviously win, but without Kal's magic weakness (and yes, I know Supes fans, even that is variable), Majestic has a better chance at beating Thor than Superman imo.

Fair enough.

I don't know that Majestic is more skilled. I agree, he's faster. I don't really think most people take into account Superman's magic weakness when he fights Thor. Otherwise Mjolnir is a game ender. I give Superman better odds then Majestic against Thor tbh.

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think JLA/Avengers was fan-voted. DC vs. Marvel was, though.

Anyhow, while certain parts of JLA/Avengers are canon to DC(the Krona plot, namely) it isn't regarded as canon to Marvel at all, afaik.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
JLA/Avengers is not fan voted. Certain fights from DC vs. Marvel were.

JLA/Avengers isn't canon to Marvel and the Krona plot is canon to DC to an extent. DC vs. Marvel was semi canon for both.

Fair enough.

I don't know that Majestic is more skilled. I agree, he's faster. I don't really think most people take into account Superman's magic weakness when he fights Thor. Otherwise Mjolnir is a game ender. I give Superman better odds then Majestic against Thor tbh.

That's insane, Thor hammer would weigh 5.1 trillion tons, guessing on the number!!

Don blake must've been eating his wheaties.

Are you still mad about Superman being unworthy?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It has been referenced in Handbook entries of several characters from marvel like Photon, Grandmaster and Terminus.

It isn't a canon Marvel crossover.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was a lightning bolt rage.

We see lightning and no mjolnir attacking superman just like he smashed J'onn in that building with lightning.

A weary superman took the beating from Hercules, Vision, an amped Iron man, Simon and She-hulk and got up at the same time as thor?

It wasn't fan voted. That's marvel vs DC. Its canon but non-usable on KMC. Superman didn't win because he's superman. That's just baffling as Kurt Busiek himself has stated himself.

No, that was a Mjolnir hit just as we saw throughout the rest of the series. It left a lightning trail, but it did exactly that when he hit opponents. Do you seriously think he was hit with a lightning bolt or are you just trolling?

Yes, Superman was weary, I don't understand why him getting bumrushed indicates different.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lawlz @ "to an extent". Oh rage.

What's amusing? The Krona plot is canon to DC but that's all. Everything from the Marvel side wasn't transferred over, that's why I specified "to an extent". I'm careful with my wording so I don't look foolish or slip up, you should take heed.

Best. Scene. Ever.