HOTM Hulk VS Superboy Prime

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah about that. Umar went from a being as feared as Dormammu (her original appearance) to Dormammu's rival/sidekick (70s-90s) to glorified whore (2000s+); which is what she was in that arc.

So she currently doesn't impress me......at all.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Forget collateral damage, In terms of relative powerlevel portrayal versus the Herald tier, Wbh blows SBP outta the water.

Originally posted by zopzop
Zeus was toying with him. And Strange only had access to the Zomling's power (the TINY portion that survived the LT's wrath) :

http://s11.postimg.org/uwuztq5jz/zom_ht1.jpg this is what was inside the Amphora.

And even then Strange was fighting the Zomling's influence that caused him to lose.

Umar casually restrained a Worldbreaker Hulk with her magic. Something neither Zeus, nor Zom Strange can boast of doing. She also no-sold her entire planet blowing up in her face with casual annoyance. Trying to diminish what Worldbreaker Hulk achieved by backhandedly suggesting Umar wasn't anything special is an exercise in complete ignorance. There's nothing further to say about it.

Originally posted by ODG
Zeus was fighting World War Hulk. He never went Worldbreaker in that fight. And Zeus gave him the business. He didn't toy with sh1t. Zom Strange never fought Worldbreaker Hulk either. That portion of Zom still allowed him enough power to outperform an unleashed Sentry and pretty much every hero and villain that tried to fight World War Hulk.

Umar casually restrained a Worldbreaker Hulk with her magic. Something neither Zeus, nor Zom Strange can boast of doing. She also no-sold her entire planet blowing up in her face with casual annoyance. Trying to diminish what Worldbreaker Hulk achieved by backhandedly suggesting Umar wasn't anything special is an exercise in complete ignorance. There's nothing further to say about it.

The Zomling was just a fraction of the true Zom. The true Zom had Umar with the Flames of Regency sh|tting herself in fear and she ran with her tail between her loose legs.

Either Zeus or true Zom would crush Umar.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, I agree. Vs F-List "Herald" level beings WBH came off looking way more impressive than SBP vs DC's A-Listers.

Lol wut?.. get back to to me when you have a cogent serious minded argument based on actual powerlevels and portrayal as opposed to one that utilizes meaningless terms like A list and F list as a basis for drawing inane conclusions and ignoring on pan
el depiction. You have got to be kidding me. The characters hulk fought may not have their own ongoing or anything but there appearances have been more than sufficient in establishing their general powerlevel. Even more so for the mindless ones whose powerlevel was explicitly indicated. Dismissing or belittling all of them on the basis of such flimsy reasoning is nonsensical.

I thought Umar possessed Dormammu power during the time (and currently) which is the reason he doesn't have the flame...pretty much powerless.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Lol wut?.. get back to to me when you have a cogent serious minded argument based on actual powerlevels and portrayal as opposed to one that utilizes meaningless terms like A list and F list as a basis for drawing inane conclusions and ignoring on panel depiction. You have got to be kidding me.

You really believe that Marvel would have HOTM Hulk vaporize Thor like that? 🙄

HOTM Hulk conveniently vaporized nobodies and also rans.

You think DC would allow SBP to rip Superman or even Wonder Woman in two like he did those no name Lanterns (both Green and Yellow who are at least herald level beings)? No right?

Writer Armor for the win!

SPB gets his shit pushed in

Don't get it...for them to be so low (the Heralds Hulk took out)...they have some pretty decent showings under their belts. Armaggedon stomped both Surfer and Merged Hulk combined without effort. Wendigo have a track record of taking on teams and actually stalemating Savage Hulk. The only one Zop can make a case for is Bi Beast and he even have some major showings (minus his run in with Thor and even then, during his first fight he did well). For them to be F listers, they are hellava powerful.

They're "F" Listers only in terms of popularity.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
They're "F" Listers only in terms of popularity.

You KNOW no writer would have allowed HOTM Hulk to vaporize Thor. Not one. Same deal with SBP and DC's money makers.

No-name Lanterns are at least herald level beings no? And SBP was ripping them in half and punching wholes in them with his HV like it was going out of style. Yet none of their A-Listers/Money Makers got that treatment even though he was plowing through them.

shrug Inverse ninja theory.

It doesn't make Hulk any less powerful, but it has to be considered, imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
shrug Inverse ninja theory.

It doesn't make Hulk any less powerful, but it has to be considered, imo.

Originally posted by zopzop
But that's my whole point.

You KNOW no writer would have allowed HOTM Hulk to vaporize Thor. Not one. Same deal with SBP and DC's money makers.

No name Lanterns are at least herald level beings no? And SBP was ripping them in half and punching wholes in them like it was going out of style. Yet none of their A-Listers/Money Makers got that treatment even though he was plowing through them.

Why, though?

Thor actually has incredible feats of his own to warrant arguing him surviving an encounter with HotM Hulk, let alone when you factor in the ridiculousness that is Mjolnir. I doubt he'd win, though.

No name Lanterns have shit durability outside of space cheese (and even then, they've been killed by some of those). They certainly don't boast the feats of durability that many low and even high meta class characters have, let alone the elite heralds.

Wendigo and co. on the other hand, actually have feats hanging with Savage Hulk, who in turn as a rule, is at least a mid-herald with the potential to grow even more powerful. To just ignore that peers of Savage Hulk, who were amped, were instantly vaporized by the alpha strike of Hulk and Betty doesn't even make sense.

Originally posted by zopzop
Inverse F-List ninjas. Which is even worse.

Why does it matter when those same people you are using to downplay the ft have consistent high end showings.? I can understand if writers previously treated these characters like crap but going by writers history of the characters, that makes the ft even better. Then they was amped.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why, though?

Thor actually has incredible feats of his own to warrant arguing him surviving an encounter with HotM Hulk, let alone when you factor in the ridiculousness that is Mjolnir. I doubt he'd win, though.

No name Lanterns have shit durability outside of space cheese (and even then, they've been killed by some of those). They certainly don't boast the feats of durability that many low and even high meta class characters have, let alone the elite heralds.

Wendigo and co. on the other hand, actually have feats hanging with Savage Hulk, who in turn as a rule, is at least a mid-herald with the potential to grow even more powerful. To just ignore that peers of Savage Hulk, who were amped, were instantly vaporized by the alpha strike of Hulk and Betty doesn't even make sense.

Originally posted by carver9
Why does it matter when those same people you are using to downplay the ft have consistent high end showings.? I can understand if writers previously treated these characters like crap but going by writers history of the characters, that makes the ft even better. Then they was amped.

Originally posted by zopzop
Zeus could have insta-killed Hulk if he wanted to but instead decided to get into a brawl with him for the lulz.

The Zomling was just a fraction of the true Zom. The true Zom had Umar with the Flames of Regency sh|tting herself in fear and she ran with her tail between her loose legs.

Either Zeus or true Zom would crush Umar.

Thank you for wasting time by typing a statement of unextraordinary fact.

We appreciate that the point you were hoping to fabricate -- Umar wasn't powerful in that arc, so obliterating the entire race of Mindless Ones who were giving her trouble isn't a feat -- fell flat on its face completely:

Mind your step next time.

Originally posted by ODG
Sure, but Zeus didn't stop World War Hulk as casually as Umar did. And Umar did that to World War Hulk going Worldbreaker. I trust even you can appreciate the difference.

Thank you for wasting time by typing a statement of unextraordinary fact.

We appreciate that the point you were hoping to fabricate -- Umar wasn't powerful in that arc, so obliterating the entire race of Mindless Ones who were giving her trouble isn't a feat -- fell flat on its face completely:

Mind your step next time.

😂

Originally posted by zopzop
Jake, Carver, all I'm saying is those "amped" Heralds that Hulk vaporized were expendable; A good majority of the characters SBP fought, which includes Connor, weren't.

The people that Prime fought and killed was expendable as well but he didn't kill any of them as casually as Hulk. Your point is irrelevant. You're still my buddy though.