HOTM Hulk VS Superboy Prime

Started by -Pr-14 pages
Originally posted by carver9
The people that Prime fought and killed was expendable as well but he didn't kill any of them as casually as Hulk. Your point is irrelevant. You're still my buddy though.

No, they weren't expendable. Unless you think Geoff Johns is really going to kill off a good chunk of DC's A and B listers.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, they weren't expendable. Unless you think Geoff Johns is really going to kill off a good chunk of DC's A and B listers.

Not all but some of them were. A lot of them were.

Originally posted by carver9
Not all but some of them were. A lot of them were.

Not nearly "a lot". Not in the slightest.

Pak was obviously trying to make a point in his writing, and he needed sacrificial lambs to do it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Inverse F-List ninjas. Which is even worse.
They were amped and the point was clear; Hulks a badass under Pak.

Originally posted by zopzop
Jake, Carver, all I'm saying is those "amped" Heralds that Hulk vaporized were expendable; A good majority of the characters SBP fought, which includes Connor, weren't.

This type of reasoning just has no place in a serious discussion. Yes the characters Hulk fought were perhaps less well known than some of the characters that prime fought but that has no bearing on their displayed or indicated power levels. I mean several of the top feats of the cream of the crop of the herald tier involve characters who have even less of a backstory than some of those involved in the HOTM incident. Tenebrous, Aegis, Gor, Dominus, Mrungo Mu, Scrier, Other, Durok, etc and I could go on and on. In terms of popularity and relevance in the grand scheme of things these would fit in the same F lister category, but it doesn't take away from the feats involving them in the slightest.

Taking this reasoning to its logical conclusion wed have to start disregarding feats if the characters involved are not popular enough. Maybe a threshold, that once it goes beyond a C-list or D-list character it is of no use? Its just absurd and denigrating WBH level based off of such turns your entire argument into a farce.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Read the comic and the following issues. Hulk's healing factor was greatly diminished, working at like 5% it's usual rate. He literally beat the healing factor out of Hulk. Prime can't do that, he isn't a Skyfather.

He didn't blow a hole in hulk and it was just internal damage. Of course he beat the healing factor out of him, you were implying that Zeus somehow nullified hulk's HF. He would straight up rip hulk apart like he did to monarch bro.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
I thought hephaestus referencing the punishment of Prometheus for the same crime of hubris was enough to reconcile that event. Even in the god of war games it was displayed as Prometheus' (and hulk's) durability and regeneration being set in order for vultures to feast on their liver every day.

Speculations ftw.

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Sigh

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh

Shut up.

WBH obliterates SBP.

WBH was just beginning to unleash, no signs of fatigue or reduction in effectiveness. He could just keep pouring out the power and amping up more and more.

You hear that guys?

His power is maximum.

Originally posted by ODG
Sure, but Zeus didn't stop World War Hulk as casually as Umar did. And Umar did that to World War Hulk going Worldbreaker. I trust even you can appreciate the difference.

Thank you for wasting time by typing a statement of unextraordinary fact.

We appreciate that the point you were hoping to fabricate -- Umar wasn't powerful in that arc, so obliterating the entire race of Mindless Ones who were giving her trouble isn't a feat -- fell flat on its face completely:

Mind your step next time.

sonned!

Originally posted by curryman
You hear that guys?

His power is maximum.


Janus thinks Hulk can beat everybody. Except surfer who is Odin level in his opinion and Odin oneshotting surfer is PIS.

srug

Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't blow a hole in hulk and it was just internal damage. Of course he beat the healing factor out of him, you were implying that Zeus somehow nullified hulk's HF. He would straight up rip hulk apart like he did to monarch bro.
Speculations ftw.

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He had an amp to get to that point and has never ripped Superboy apart.

Hulk makes him fly away faster than a Flash.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't blow a hole in hulk and it was just internal damage. Of course he beat the healing factor out of him, you were implying that Zeus somehow nullified hulk's HF. He would straight up rip hulk apart like he did to monarch bro.

Internal damage is meaningless to the Hulk, it makes no difference to his healing factor. Zeus' power did in someway nullify his healing factor. Somehow he was able to mess with it, Pak even went on to confirm that Zeus cheated during the fight. It might not have been intentional but it's still not something that Prime can replicate.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Internal damage is meaningless to the Hulk, it makes no difference to his healing factor. Zeus' power did in someway nullify his healing factor. Somehow he was able to mess with it, Pak even went on to confirm that Zeus cheated during the fight. It might not have been intentional but it's still not something that Prime can replicate.

tbh that was my understanding as well.....

Mhmm.

regardless of what you feel happened there, the main point is this--prime is powerful, but he's not a skyfather. any attempt at suggesting that just because zeus did it, prime could do it is.....odg prolly has some cute lating term for that type of logic. i'll just say it's dumb.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Internal damage is meaningless to the Hulk, it makes no difference to his healing factor. Zeus' power did in someway nullify his healing factor. Somehow he was able to mess with it, Pak even went on to confirm that Zeus cheated during the fight. It might not have been intentional but it's still not something that Prime can replicate.
What did Zeus do?
Originally posted by zopzop
Dude that sig is pretty cool.

Somehow his powers messed with Hulk's healing factor. The dude was a mess for entire issues after, barely healing and shit. If it wasn't for his friends he'd have died from the beating.

Pak explained that Zeus cheated during the fight. He never indicated whether it was on purpose or accidental. I'm guessing it was the lightning charges his fists were creating. Probably didn't mean to, he's a man of his word but he's a Skyfather, by nature there powers can f*ck with things.

Somehow? How did Pak explain Zeus cheated? What did he say exactly?