Sundipped Superman VS The Avengers

Originally posted by carver9
Why should they reply to it when its stupid? Any sane person that knows anything about both characters know Superman isn't that far above Thor physically if at all. I see no reason for them to reply to that nonsense. Pr will be in here soon to stop this consistent/obvious lowballing that's going on because I feel sure someone has reported it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When did this fight happen? Do you have the issue number? Were they Second Adamantium Ultrons or Titanium ones?

It's in the Ultron Unlimited trade. I'm a few states away from my comics so that's the best I can do right now.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He did serious damage, Galactus was in a lot of pain, that side of his helmet was completely destroyed and it was described as a "wounding blow".

Not the only time he damaged Celestials.

Your hypocrisy is bordering on the ridiculous. Thor's feat is less impressive because Namor damaged Tiamut at one point (I'd like to see scans of this btw)? What the hell were you just saying in another thread about future writings not influencing past feats? Thor damaged Celestials at the height of their power, when Skyfathers could barely scratch them and they were the most powerful Cosmics by almost editorial decree.

Anytime you feel like putting your money where mouth is, I'll battle zone Mjolnir vs. an Imperiex Probe whenever you want. Thor damaging Galactus/Celestials alone is more then sufficient evidence.

The other time he just chipped the armor.

I said future writings can't be used to inflate past showings, not that two showings can't be compared between two characters. That would make debating almost impossible. Now if you try to inflate Thor's feat by celestials recent showings then that would be Yeah, right. Celestials were not scratched by Skyfathers and that's it. Exitar was also destroyed by Sue which despite their weakness to hyperspace has never happened again and a silver of phoenix force made them retreat. Now they are fighting universal abstracts on even terms, tanking IGs and UNs like shit and had their best feat ever just recently.

Here is the scan btw.

LOL, I'm not falling in this trap again. Keep your mocking to yourself.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
There was another instance.

So what? We saw various types of attacks penetrate the armor.

If they did, it would be such a minor advantage that it's irrelevant.

Very possible. Okay, you're looney, understand.

None of blunt types like mjolnir though.

A standard superman was completely ineffectual against a probe alongside Mongul helping him.

Not possible at all. Be glad you're not ICT doing this, jelly would tear you a new one.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? I specifically said that he upped his game. We saw Kyle Rayner contain the essence of the actual Imperiex, yes I think he wasn't on the same level. Why do Superman fans think Clark is the only one capable of cutting loose.

Prove of this? We saw the armor, it was completely fine:

Get out of here.

Okay, so you think standard Superman hits harder then all out Thor?

It was stated by superman himself that once breached the integrity of the armor lessens. He sealed it but the damage was done already. That's why Diana was able to breach the armor when previously She with aquaman failed to damage it completely.

On average or at best like Galactus busting and shit? On average I would take them as a peer with superman a slight edge over Thor with mjolnir in striking power.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I checked, this never happened.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I remember him crushing ultron's head.

Post the scan.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Alright, I looked through the arc and this is the only instance I can think of that resembles his description:

Wonder Man and destroyed some Ultrons, but it was outright stated that they weren't the Adamantium ones. And it was revealed that the Adamantium Ultron's that he built were actually from Secondary Adamantium anyways.

Originally posted by carver9
Why should they reply to it when its stupid? Any sane person that knows anything about both characters know Superman isn't that far above Thor physically if at all. I see no reason for them to reply to that nonsense. Pr will be in here soon to stop this consistent/obvious lowballing that's going on because I feel sure someone has reported it.

Originally posted by carver9
Why should they reply to it when its stupid? Any sane person that knows anything about both characters know Superman isn't that far above Thor physically if at all. I see no reason for them to reply to that nonsense. Pr will be in here soon to stop this consistent/obvious lowballing that's going on because I feel sure someone has reported it.

Quiet you, I'm working angles here...

Originally posted by dmills
Well, Rage and other Thor fans are repeatedly being challenged with this claim and they say nothing. They've had several chances to step up to the plate and refute it forever, but for whatever reason they don't want it with Supes fans in that regard.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I said he didn't go through the helmet. Your detailing the feat is irrelevant.

The other time he just chipped the armor.

I said future writings can't be used to inflate past showings, not that two showings can't be compared between two characters. That would make debating almost impossible. Now if you try to inflate Thor's feat by celestials recent showings then that would be Yeah, right. Celestials were not scratched by Skyfathers and that's it. Exitar was also destroyed by Sue which despite their weakness to hyperspace has never happened again and a silver of phoenix force made them retreat. Now they are fighting universal abstracts on even terms, tanking IGs and UNs like shit and had their best feat ever just recently.

Here is the scan btw.

LOL, I'm not falling in this trap again. Keep your mocking to yourself.

We saw him cracking the armor:

The principle is the exact same. How is trying to lowball Thor's feat because Celestial Armor was treated like tinfoil by Namor decades later not the same reasoning? Sue damaging Celestial's is irrelevant, she can access a Hyperspace frequency that they are vulnerable to. Okay, so Celestial's are as touch as ever? Then great for Namor, it takes nothing away from Thor to be able to damage Celestials then.

What trap? Officially challenging you to a Mjolnir vs. Imperiex Probe battle zone.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No there isn't. Not of hippolyta beating a probe.

None of blunt types like mjolnir though.

A standard superman was completely ineffectual against a probe alongside Mongul helping him.

Not possible at all. Be glad you're not ICT doing this, jelly would tear you a new one.

At one point, they were tumbling through the air to the Earth and a probe was destroyed by Wonder Woman and her mother. Are you telling me that didn't happen?

Doesn't matter. We saw her shield break one as well.

Then it's glad that I'm not talking about a standard Thor.

Very. You mock me for asking Galan a question and then you bring up another poster in another thread to try and what, frighten me? 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he contained Imperiex's essence under the same writer in the same arc but wasn't at that level in the probe fight? Proof? Speculations wouldn't cut it here.

It was stated by superman himself that once breached the integrity of the armor lessens. He sealed it but the damage was done already. That's why Diana was able to breach the armor when previously She with aquaman failed to damage it completely.

On average or at best like Galactus busting and shit? On average I would take them as a peer with superman a slight edge over Thor with mjolnir in striking power.

I remember him crushing ultron's head.

What? Why do I need to provide proof that Kyle was greater when he contained Imperiex Prime's essence then when he was dismissed by one of his drones? What kind of ass backwards question is that?

Scan? We saw Wonder Woman strike a completely undamaged part of the armor.

Did I not make it clear to you that I was referring to a cutting loose Thor in this entire discussion? What part of that has been unclear yet? Average Thor would be hard pressed to take out a probe like Superman.

Didn't happen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is what I don't understand. Even rage allows it to happen and won't just set up a match with Abhi.

Yeah Quan, I don't get it either. After all, if it's really that outlandish a claim then there should be little trouble refuting it right? However, if it's true, they'll say nothing whether then suffer a thorough humiliation at the hands of Kal Qaeda.

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It was West Coast Avengers v2 7. I swear Avengers have like a million teams.

This Ultron was retconned as secondary adamantium ultron I believe.

Originally posted by dmills
Well, Rage and other Thor fans are repeatedly being challenged with this claim and they say nothing. They've had several chances to step up to the plate and refute it forever, but for whatever reason they don't want it with Supes fans in that regard.

Which claim are you talking about? I really don't bother replying to a post if it's just completely idiotic. Did he actually say Superman could kill Thor with a punch or something?

Do you mean a battle zone? I think Superman has a strength edge over Thor. I'm more then willing to back that claim up.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Which claim are you talking about? I really don't bother replying to a post if it's just completely idiotic. Did he actually say Superman could kill Thor with a punch or something?

Do you mean a battle zone? I think Superman has a strength edge over Thor. I'm more then willing to back that claim up.

The claim is a 30-40% strength advantage at least. That's more than just a slight phucking edge. That's an absolutely dominant advantage.

One guy even said that a 40% advantage is being generous to Thor fans.

Originally posted by dmills
Yeah Quan, I don't get it either. After all, if it's really that outlandish a claim then there should be little trouble refuting it right? However, if it's true, they'll say nothing whether then suffer a thorough humiliation at the hands of Kal Qaeda.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rage needs to take him on in a battlezone. I fully believe he will win I just don't see why he hesitates. It's obvious he is a little hesitant as well.

I'm inclined to believe this (the hesitancy). Especially given how aggressive he's been of late with regard to other matters, you'd think he'd be unflappable in this matter. But alas...

That goes for the Banke as well.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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It was West Coast Avengers v2 7. I swear Avengers have like a million teams.

This Ultron was retconned as secondary adamantium ultron I believe.

Actually, that Ultron's skull is made out of Adamantium. But Wonder Man beat him by shaking up his internal circuits and not damaging the body as pointed out on the next page:

And I have no idea why you'd bring this up in response to Thor tearing through Ultron's completely.

Originally posted by dmills
The claim is a 30-40% strength advantage at least. That's more than just a slight phucking edge. That's an absolutely dominant advantage.

One guy even said that a 40% advantage is being generous to Thor fans.

That's ridiculous. This type of nonsense isn't even worth the attention tbh.

It's Thor not freaking Mary Marvel.

Originally posted by dmills
I'm inclined to believe this (the hesitancy). Especially given how aggressive he's been of late with regard to other matters, you'd think he'd be unflappable in this matter. But alas...

That goes for the Banke as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rage needs to take him on in a battlezone. I fully believe he will win I just don't see why he hesitates. It's obvious he is a little hesitant as well.

Guys, why do you want me to a Thor vs. Superman strength battle zone so bad? I think Thor's is pretty close to Superman but that's hardly a topic that you can battle zone.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's ridiculous. This type of nonsense isn't even worth the attention tbh.

It's Thor not freaking Mary Marvel.

But remember Rage, if one tells a lie loud enough, long enough... This is an opportunity to quash that line of reasoning for good. Just like you did in the Thor vs Gladiator BZ last year.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We saw him cracking the armor:

Didn't happen.

Originally posted by dmills
But remember Rage, if one tells a lie loud enough, long enough... This is an opportunity to quash that line of reasoning for good. Just like you did in the Thor vs Gladiator BZ last year.

I just don't see the point even wasting energy on it. Proving that Thor isn't far off from Superman isn't really a problem for me but I doubt Abhil would ever accept such a challenge. And there's the problem of him literally ignoring whatever feats he wants. Of course in a battle zone, it's the judges who we have to convince so his problems are irrelevant. mhmm

Actually, that was like two years ago. That wasn't a real battle zone, but I admit it was fun.