Sundipped Superman VS The Avengers

Started by abhilegend17 pages

Originally posted by curryman
A question to the people who consider them equals, obviously.

Do you suffer some kind of brain injury or something? Because I swear all you do is to try and contend whatever people post.

Trying to reasonably back you up here but you're getting on my last mother****ing nerve.

The heat is getting to me, it's not you 🙂


I thought it was a general question.

I was just answering a question you posted. Calm down.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I thought it was a general question.

I was just answering a question you posted. Calm down.

You see no flaws at all with the way you conduct yourself here?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor isn't a peer of superman in strength and speed doesn't makes superman Thor's peer. If superman uses his speed in a fight he would crush Thor. Even rage has admitted that.

Read what I wrote.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm gonna save us both some time here, but concerning the claim of bashing:

Yeah, if someone legitimately thinks Thor has nothing similar to beating Probes and is not at all comparable to Superman in any respects, they either are unfamiliar with Thor (or Superman for that matter), are trolling (perhaps not maliciously), or are stupid. That's not bashing considering I'm not calling YOU or any one specifically stupid or whatever. But it's an accurate assessment free of fanboyism.

Anyway, on topic, you seem to think that because Mordru and Ion Kyle and regular Superman didn't break Probes, arbitrarily, that means a cutting loose Thor can't...even though Thor has comparable feats suggesting he can. That's reverse projection and to be honest, doesn't make sense. Sure, I can see an average Thor struggling and failing to break a Probe. But I can't conceive of a reality where it is literally impossible for Thor to do that. Not when he's blasted through Galactus' head, shattered Celestial armor, and everything else he's ever done. I mean, I would suggest Thor (all out) versus Probes BZ, buuuuuut that probably won't happen, will it?


Then you probably don't know what bashing is. Ironically, you think mocking is bashing. Go figure.

He doesn't.

He didn't break through Galactus' head. It was completely fine the next we see his head. Also he wore the belt of strength when he made a small hole in Exitar's armor with all his strength. Compare that to Namor tearing through Tiamut's armor. Anything else?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Read what I wrote.

I read it fine. Doesn't changes anything.
Originally posted by curryman
You see no flaws at all with the way you conduct yourself here?

No. You?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then you probably don't know what bashing is. Ironically, you think mocking is bashing. Go figure.

He doesn't.

He didn't break through Galactus' head. It was completely fine the next we see his head. Also he wore the belt of strength when he made a small hole in Exitar's armor with all his strength. Compare that to Namor tearing through Tiamut's armor. Anything else?

lol pointing out that an ignorant or stupid line of thought is ignorant or stupid and pointing out trolling is trolling isn't bashing. This is being objective. And really, if anyone has a problem with it or legitimately thinks I'm bashing anyone, they're more than welcome to report me or ask a mod to tell me to shut up.

Of course he does. 😬

He clearly did a number on Galactus' head. Him reforming doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not what I was talking about. Not at all the same thing, nor even remotely close to being portrayed on the same scale. And those are just two instances of Thor showing what he can do when going all out. And you really think he doesn't even begin to compare to Superman and such it's literally impossible for Thor to break through Probes? I stand by my above statement.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I read it fine. Doesn't changes anything.

😂

So, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, you believe Superman is in another tier than Thor and the two are not at all comparable to one another overall?

Yes or no?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol pointing out that an ignorant or stupid line of thought is ignorant or stupid and pointing out trolling is trolling isn't bashing. This is being objective.
😂 @ this line of thinking.
And really, if anyone has a problem with it or legitimately thinks I'm bashing anyone, they're more than welcome to report me or ask a mod to tell me to shut up.
I'd rather not report you if possible.

Of course he does. 😬
No he doesn't.

He clearly did a number on Galactus' head.
He didn't break through galactus' head.
Him reforming doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not what I was talking about.
He reformed only one side of his head?
Not at all the same thing, nor even remotely close to being portrayed on the same scale.
Why? Celestials were just portrayed as multiversal. When did Thor 300 mentioned celestials as multiversal?
And those are just two instances of Thor showing what he can do when going all out.
One of them is invalid. There is nothing All out thor has done in striking power that regular superman can't match or even exceed.
And you really think he doesn't even begin to compare to Superman and such it's literally impossible for Thor to break through Probes?
He compares to regular superman not all out superman.
I stand by my above statement.
Of course you do.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😂

So, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, you believe Superman is in another tier than Thor and the two are not at all comparable to one another overall?

Yes or no?


What evidence?

Also Superman and Thor are in same tier because of mjolnir. Not because thor is a peer of superman's in strength.

So going with the logic that regular Thor can/has replicated sundipped feats, then we can also argue that regular superman can/has replicated amped Thor feats.
With all that said, being able to merely replicate these feats does not make regular superman/Thor = amped superman/Thor; otherwise these amps would be useless.
Just because regular superman replicate what warrior madness/ belt of strength Thor has accomplished does not mean he operates at that level.

Curryman, what's your stand in regards to superman's strength compared to thor's strength?

Originally posted by Diesldude
Curryman, what's your stand in regards to superman's strength compared to thor's strength?

Much, much stronger.

Originally posted by curryman
Much, much stronger.

I agree with this. I think so does abhishek.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I agree with this. I think so does abhishek.

I also agree fwiw

Yeah that's the only viable explanation for Thor with hammer being a peer of holding back superman.

You know Thor, and every herald pretty much; are always holding back, always....

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You know Thor, and every herald pretty much; are always holding back, always....

I think the point is that holding back superman>holding back Thor strength wise.

Strength wise yeah, no doubt.

Not power-wise though.

Originally posted by curryman
Strength wise yeah, no doubt.

Not power-wise though.

this is important to note. Too many peoplr think Strength=power
Although Superman is stronger, Thor doesnt require the same stength to have the same damage output

Originally posted by xJLxKing
this is important to note. Too many peoplr think Strength=power
Although Superman is stronger, Thor doesnt require the same stength to have the same damage output

Indeed.

That's why I normally concede a very hefty strength advantage in Superman's favour. Abhi claims that it's 30-40%, I think that's being nice to the Thor fans.

Thor's strength is in the lightning and in the ton of energy-stuff at his disposal.