Majestic VS Silver Surfer

Started by Stoic6 pages

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
20-25% stronger.

In your heart you know I'm right.

You can't take one showing and proclaim Maj as being that much stronger than Thor. I would beg to differ, especially with things like his showing against the War Guard, and Union. Majestic is no Superman. As for the Blades, what makes you think that they would stop the Surfer even if they cut him? Didn't the Surfer reform in the past from being diced up by lasers? If Surfer were out for blood like his Exiles version, or the way that he fought Morg in their 2nd battle, he'd likely make short work of him.

Originally posted by Stoic
If Surfer were out for blood .....

the fight would end like this :

Already posted in the Ownage Thread.

Originally posted by Stoic
Majestic is no Superman. As for the Blades, what makes you think that they would stop the Surfer even if they cut him? Didn't the Surfer reform in the past from being diced up by lasers? If Surfer were out for blood like his Exiles version, or the way that he fought Morg in their 2nd battle, he'd likely make short work of him.

Majestic isn't Superman he doesn't have red sunlight weakness or k-nite which are surfer's big trump cards. Plus he is a trained soldier and genious if ppl thought Superman had a chance against SS then Majestic is that chance.

Its a split fight.

Surfer can play keep away, using distance, and blasting him. Than Majestic eventually goes down. I say this because, Norrins energy discharge are frightfully more powerful than his own physical prowess.

If Majestic narrows the gap, than Majestic eventually mauls down Norrin. The Majestros does sport superior physical prowess.

Originally posted by zopzop
the fight would end like this :

Already posted in the Ownage Thread.

If he grabbed Majestros by the face like that it would be a different outcome.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol wut?

In your heart you think that I think you're right...

How much stronger is Majestic in your opinion?

P.S. 20% is the best option. 😎

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
How much stronger is Majestic in your opinion?

P.S. 20% is the best option. 😎


Roughly the same. Really don't see where Majestic is significantly stronger. Even if he is, it's no where near those percentages you are putting up.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Roughly the same. Really don't see where Majestic is significantly stronger. Even if he is, it's no where near those percentages you are putting up.

Majestros moving that planet shows they are not roughly the same at all.

My percentages are infallible!

Originally posted by "Id"
Its a split fight.

Surfer can play keep away, using distance, and blasting him. Than Majestic eventually goes down. I say this because, Norrins energy discharge are frightfully more powerful than his own physical prowess.

If Majestic narrows the gap, than Majestic eventually mauls down Norrin. The Majestros does sport superior physical prowess.

Don't think it's a split fight, tbh.

The fact that they start apart and that Surfer has the better top travelling "feats" essentially gives Surfer first-strike (with blasts that would no doubt rock Majestic) and the fact that he should be able to outspeed Maj gives him the option of dictating how this fight would transpire. And in a distance game, where Maj cannot use his blades or strength (which would then force him to use his energy attacks, which Surfer is more durable against, is better at using and has more powerful attacks) this would be Surfer's fight to lose. The only chance Maj has is if the Surfer would choose to melee him like a moron.

Then again, Surfer fights like an absolute moron half the time so I see where you're coming from.

Originally posted by "Id"
Its a split fight.

Surfer can play keep away, using distance, and blasting him. Than Majestic eventually goes down. I say this because, Norrins energy discharge are frightfully more powerful than his own physical prowess.

If Majestic narrows the gap, than Majestic eventually mauls down Norrin. The Majestros does sport superior physical prowess.

Yep. 👆

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Don't think it's a split fight, tbh.

The fact that they start apart and that Surfer has the better top travelling "feats" essentially gives Surfer first-strike (with blasts that would no doubt rock Majestic) and the fact that he should be able to outspeed Maj gives him the option of dictating how this fight would transpire. And in a distance game, where Maj cannot use his blades or strength (which would then force him to use his energy attacks, which Surfer is more durable against, is better at using and has more powerful attacks) this would be Surfer's fight to lose. The only chance Maj has is if the Surfer would choose to melee him like a moron.

Then again, Surfer fights like an absolute moron half the time so I see where you're coming from.

Well are talking about characters, and not power-sets specifically. And Surfer has a tendency to bull-rush his opponents.

Originally posted by "Id"
Well are talking about characters, and not power-sets specifically. And Surfer has a tendency to bull-rush his opponents.

Like I said, I know where you're coming from. 😛

He does have instances of fighting smart (like BRB, I know he bullrushed here, too, but that had great logic behind it. Also, TnA and the recent Thor fight) and as much as he fights stupid. Kinda why I get what you're saying about the split. Just that I feel "full capacity", Surfer would use his head at least try to stay away and blast.

I also want to point out that I look at as a split with out his blades.

With his blades, I give him the edge over surfer. Closing the gap in distance would become more favorable, given that the his blades can repel, and cut through energy efficiently.

Originally posted by "Id"
I also want to point out that I look at as a split with out his blades.

With his blades, I give him the edge over surfer. Closing the gap in distance would become more favorable, given that the his blades can repel, and cut through energy efficiently.

My take is the opposite, tho. Chances improve for Maj with the blades. But without it, I'd say Surfer takes a higher majority.

Basically, I think 6/10 Surfer with Blades, 8/10 without.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
If he grabbed Majestros by the face like that it would be a different outcome.

Who grabbed who by the face? If you're talking about Surfer, he didn't grab anything. He transmuted his foe into atoms. He didn't even need to touch him.

A serious Surfer wins this more often than not.

Originally posted by vince_slice
He's fought Hulk many times, which includes Savage Hulk, Bannerless Hulk, and even Planet Hulk. He also fought Classic Abomination and beat him h2h. He's tanked Hulk and Hulk level blows pretty decently.

Recently he fought Bill and tanked his blows just fine, same with Thor in Fraction's Mighty Thor run. His first Morg fight he lost, but his second fight with Morg (where he stopped holding back), he beat Morg soundly while destroying the planet.

He was able to go melee with Millennius for a prolonged period. Which is impressive since Millennius overpowered Thor and nearly killed him. He did this after Millennius sapped his power cosmic to create a portal to escape his dimensional prison.

I think he should be able to tank blows from Majestic. He won't win h2h though.


He didn't beat Abomination h2h. He made him go to sleep. He has taken hulk's blows although there are always some exteneuating circumstances to their fights like the fact that Bannerlss hulk was dying when he fought surfer and surfer was amped by gamma bombs when he fought hulk in IH 250 or that both were weakened in planet hulk. Surfer beat hulk in TTA 94 by a cheapshot but that was a weaker hulk than later by his own admission in IH 131 and IH 270 and Hulk manhandled him alongside Namor in Sub-mariner 34 and The Order 4 but these are inconclusive.

These are good but Thor did dent his forehead with a headbutt. The less we talk about B&T the better where Warlock outperformed him against Thor and BRB while heavily wounded knocked him out with two shots one of which was a cheapshot.

Surfer said he would've been obliterated in one more instant if Millenius and they weren't seperated by a blast Thor created. Surfer looked more powerful than Thor in general since he was weakened there. Millenius also didn't nearly kill Thor or overpower Thor in melee, he was down for a moment and got up as soon as surfer attacked Millenius and it was an energy attack that downed thor.

On an unrelated topic, in the same comic both he and thor were knocked out by some plastic man knock-offs by suffocating them in their mud like body.

😂

Originally posted by JayDaDon
I view them as peers in strength. How well do majestic's feats against established characters hold up in comparison to Thor? If majestic went around manhandling Superman THEN I'd be willing to say he's significantly stronger.

If majestic manhandles Superman, he'd be A LOT stronger than Thor. We're talking about Doomsday level strength here.

Originally posted by zopzop
the fight would end like this :

Already posted in the Ownage Thread.
Originally posted by zopzop
Who grabbed who by the face? If you're talking about Surfer, he didn't grab anything. He transmuted his foe into atoms. He didn't even need to touch him.

A serious Surfer wins this more often than not.


facepalm

You think surfer can atomize Majestic because he atomized some random tiger-man?

Surfer would instantly transmute the blades into daffodils and mock Majestic.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Majestros moving that planet shows they are not roughly the same at all.

My percentages are infallible!

That one feat is why you think he's so much stronger than Thor???? Even if that were the way things worked, the gor feat would put Thor squarely in that range.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
That one feat is why you think he's so much stronger than Thor???? Even if that were the way things worked, the gor feat would put Thor squarely in that range.

That's a striking feat with mjolnir, not a purely strength feat.