Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalmYou think surfer can atomize Majestic because he atomized some random tiger-man?
Originally posted by JayDaDon
That one feat is why you think he's so much stronger than Thor???? Even if that were the way things worked, the gor feat would put Thor squarely in that range.
Originally posted by zopzop
Does Majestic even have any transmutation resisting feats?Who was helping Majestic pull those planets? Gorr/Thor fighting != Majestic pulling/pushing planets by himself.
http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2084676-savant_garde_05___overcoming_transmutation_1.jpg
Not to mention atomizing some random dude doesn't means much.
Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalmYou think surfer can atomize Majestic because he atomized some random tiger-man?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. He does. He was turned into stone and just willed himself back to normal.http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2084676-savant_garde_05___overcoming_transmutation_1.jpg
Not to mention atomizing some random dude doesn't means much.
Gotta agree with Abhi here. I think Surfer can definitely win this, but lmfao @ him transmuting Majestic because he did so to a practically featless character..
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]He didn't beat Abomination h2h. He made him go to sleep. He has taken hulk's blows although there are always some exteneuating circumstances to their fights like the fact that Bannerlss hulk was dying when he fought surfer and surfer was amped by gamma bombs when he fought hulk in IH 250 or that both were weakened in planet hulk. Surfer beat hulk in TTA 94 by a cheapshot but that was a weaker hulk than later by his own admission in IH 131 and IH 270 and Hulk manhandled him alongside Namor in Sub-mariner 34 and The Order 4 but these are inconclusive.These are good but Thor did dent his forehead with a headbutt. The less we talk about B&T the better where Warlock outperformed him against Thor and BRB while heavily wounded knocked him out with two shots one of which was a cheapshot.
Surfer said he would've been obliterated in one more instant if Millenius and they weren't seperated by a blast Thor created. Surfer looked more powerful than Thor in general since he was weakened there. Millenius also didn't nearly kill Thor or overpower Thor in melee, he was down for a moment and got up as soon as surfer attacked Millenius and it was an energy attack that downed thor.
On an unrelated topic, in the same comic both he and thor were knocked out by some plastic man knock-offs by suffocating them in their mud like body.
Surfer did overpower classic A-bomb physically before he knocked him out using his power cosmic. He even physically forces A-bomb down onto his knees while finishing him.
http://oi44.tinypic.com/2j3p2bo.jpg
Plus Surfer admitted he was weakened right before he fought A-bomb.
http://oi39.tinypic.com/5yw18z.jpg
It reminds me of the time Surfer beat the shit out of Super Saiyan Skaar with his fists when he got serious.
I don't want to get into a lot of detail about his fights with Hulks cause there's a lot. But my point was most of his fights with Hulk, he's tanked his shots well. I'm not argueing Surfer can beat Hulk or Majestic h2h because he can't, and it's not his memo. But he can tank their physical blows long enough to pull wins.
Thor denting his head, although impressive for Thor, didn't do any lasting damage, nor KO'd Surfer. Especially since the dent disapeared a page later, and Fraction's Surfer was like a living malleable metal. When he was in Wakanda for example Surfer inflated his head like a balloon. Surfer also tanked multiple hammer tosses and strikes from Thor just fine. This is impressive since Fraction's Thor is like bloodlusted 24/7, and even smashed Galactus' helmet to pieces. Bill could only put a small chip for comparison.
His Millennius fight was even more impressive if you considerd the fact that Surfer was sapped of his power cosmic (to create a portal). He lasted as long if not longer against Millennius than Thor. He even stalemated Millennius for a while physically. All while weakened. Millennius also said it took Odin and his legion to put him down. Food for thought.
And yes Millennius did overpower Thor, and was just about to kill Thor here. He even states "your death" shall herald a kinder and gentler universe. Surfer saves Thor though at the last minute.
http://oi43.tinypic.com/16jhsmo.jpg
I'm not sure what your main arguement is. Are you trying to say that Surfer can't tank any of Majestic's physical attacks? You yourself said Surfer would win, so how do you think Surfer would win against Majestic?
Those slug things were herald level obviously lol.
Originally posted by vince_sliceHe was overpowering him with energy as shown in the picture, not pure strength.
Surfer did overpower classic A-bomb physically before he knocked him out using his power cosmic. He even physically forces A-bomb down onto his knees while finishing him.
http://oi44.tinypic.com/2j3p2bo.jpg
Plus Surfer admitted he was weakened right before he fought A-bomb.When he was weakened, abom trashed him. His strength was returning though.
http://oi39.tinypic.com/5yw18z.jpg
It reminds me of the time Surfer beat the shit out of Super Saiyan Skaar with his fists when he got serious.Yeah that was brutal. Pak has a lot of respect for surfer.
I don't want to get into a lot of detail about his fights with Hulks cause there's a lot. But my point was most of his fights with Hulk, he's tanked his shots well. I'm not argueing Surfer can beat Hulk or Majestic h2h because he can't, and it's not his memo. But he can tank their physical blows long enough to pull wins.Yeah, he can tank hulk's blows for some time but even in his most impressive fight against hulk, he had to create a force-field after three blows.
Thor denting his head, although impressive for Thor, didn't do any lasting damage, nor KO'd Surfer.It showed his durability is on par with big boys.
Especially since the dent disapeared a page later, and Fraction's Surfer was like a living malleable metal. When he was in Wakanda for example Surfer inflated his head like a balloon. Surfer also tanked multiple hammer tosses and strikes from Thor just fine. This is impressive since Fraction's Thor is like bloodlusted 24/7, and even smashed Galactus' helmet to pieces. Bill could only put a small chip for comparison.Yeah, him taking several hammer shots was impressive but Thor was also weakened there.
His Millennius fight was even more impressive if you considerd the fact that Surfer was sapped of his power cosmic (to create a portal).I said that he appeared more powerful than Thor in the same post because of that.
He lasted as long if not longer against Millennius than Thor. He even stalemated Millennius for a while physically. All while weakened.That was more stubbornness than anything else. Surfer admitted that he would've been obliterated in one more instant.
Millennius also said it took Odin and his legion to put him down. Food for thought.This millenius?
I heavily doubt that claim when its just millenius' words.
And yes Millennius did overpower Thor, and was just about to kill Thor here. He even states "your death" shall herald a kinder and gentler universe. Surfer saves Thor though at the last minute.He attacked Thor with an eye-beam which knocked Thor down. Millenius was a master of hyperbole. Thor was just fine on the next page.
http://oi43.tinypic.com/16jhsmo.jpg
I'm not sure what your main arguement is. Are you trying to say that Surfer can't tank any of Majestic's physical attacks?Obviously not.
You yourself said Surfer would win, so how do you think Surfer would win against Majestic?Mainly through energy attacks but it would be a great fight. Surfer would win 6-6.5/10 times here.
Those slug things were herald level obviously lol.Obviously. They tanked their best shots too.
Plastic man 10/10 against both surfer and thor. Canon.
Yeah, pretty dumb to assume Surfer can atomize Majestic just because he did it so random goon.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. He does. He was turned into stone and just willed himself back to normal.http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2084676-savant_garde_05___overcoming_transmutation_1.jpg
Not to mention atomizing some random dude doesn't means much.
Issue number? I want to double check this. You just posted a panel of Majestic being partially made of stone, I don't actually see any sort of resisting going on.
