Majestic VS Silver Surfer

Started by Zack Fair6 pages

I sort of agree with what Abhi said, but its still good.

Okay but what's the actual reasoning?

What about the time in inhaled the temporal dust, that would have regressed Manhattan back to the stone age?

Doesn't that count as a feat, for withstanding matter manipulation?

Originally posted by snowdragon
DC will NEVER have Maj manhandle Supes it won't happen.

They've had lots of people beat up Superman over the years.

Cap even twoshot him.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
They've had lots of people beat up Superman over the years.

Its just a laughable notion that superman has never been beaten by a hero before.

Originally posted by vince_slice
You're saying this isn't an impressive transmutation feat? Explain.

Surfer created the body for Quasimodo in the first place, is it a great feat? Sure. But claiming that he can manipulate majestic's body going by that scan is sketchy when its not clear whether he matter manipulated Quasimodo later or just drained the energy out of his body.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Cap even twoshot him.

Those were sucker-shots but yeah. He later knocked him out with a lightning fueled bullrush attack in V&V by a suckershot.

Originally posted by "Id"
What about the time in inhaled the temporal dust, that would have regressed Manhattan back to the stone age?

Doesn't that count as a feat, for withstanding matter manipulation?


Yeah, it can be used against matter manipulation.

I know. I'm just saying DC has no problems showing Superman get owned.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer created the body for Quasimodo in the first place, is it a great feat? Sure. But claiming that he can manipulate majestic's body going by that scan is sketchy when its not clear whether he matter manipulated Quasimodo later or just drained the energy out of his body.

He did manipulate it though, he turned Quasi's body to stone.

Originally posted by vince_slice
He did manipulate it though, he turned Quasi's body to [b]stone. [/B]

He never said that he turned quasi's body to stone. He said that a body without a soul is just a statue. The same has been said about surfer when his soul was absorbed by Unilord and his body broke apart. You know what's funny? Those words of surfer were recounted as they were when surfer's body broke apart

Some durable guy he is.

vin

Originally posted by abhilegend
He never said that he turned quasi's body to stone. He said that a body without a soul is just a statue. The same has been said about surfer when his soul was absorbed by Unilord and his body broke apart. You know what's funny?

vin

The fact that Surfer turned Quasi into a statue implies heavily to me he transmuted him to stone. The mention of Quasi's lack of a soul was figurative, like how you'd call a murderer souless.

Plus if you look at the art, the energy surrounding Quasi's body when he's being turned into a statue looks exactly like the energy surrounding his body when Surfer was transmuting him a body.

Finally, there are no statements that suggest Surfer was draining Quasi's energy IIRC. There's also nothing to suggest Quasi had much energy to drain either, it's not like he was an energy being or an energy battery. He was just an A.I that was given a human form.

The same has been said about surfer when his soul was absorbed by Unilord and his body broke apart. You know what's funny? Those words of surfer were recounted as they were when surfer's body broke apart

Some durable guy he is.

vin [/B]

It makes sense in that context since Surfer's soul was literally gone from his body, and his body was like a statue in the sense that it was an empty shell. For Quasi, Surfer never manipulated his soul or anything. He said Quasi lacked a soul figuratively because he cared only for destruction, and was an A.I. The scenes might use the same language, but what happened in them is very different.

Originally posted by vince_slice
The fact that Surfer turned Quasi into a statue implies heavily to me he transmuted him to stone. The mention of Quasi's lack of a soul was figurative, like how you'd call a murderer souless.

Plus if you look at the art, the energy surrounding Quasi's body when he's being turned into a statue looks exactly like the energy surrounding his body when Surfer was transmuting him a body.

Except quasi himself stated that he could feel his life draining away and he was losing power.

Finally, there are no statements that suggest Surfer was draining Quasi's energy IIRC.
There was.
There's also nothing to suggest Quasi had much energy to drain either, it's not like he was an energy being or an energy battery. He was just an A.I that was given a human form.
He was given human form by an energy wave from surfer, he just took it back.

It makes sense in that context since Surfer's soul was literally gone from his body, and his body was like a statue in the sense that it was an empty shell. For Quasi, Surfer never manipulated his soul or anything. He said Quasi lacked a soul figuratively because he cared only for destruction, and was an A.I. The scenes might use the same language, but what happened in them is very different.
Agree to disagree then.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except quasi himself stated that he could feel his life draining away and he was losing power.

Quasi never stated his life was draining away, and never stated his power was being drained. If he did, prove it and show or refer me to some evidence.

There was.

No there wasn't. Not a single statement saying his energy or power was being drained. Re-read it and tell me which panel it was stated in.

He was given human form by an energy wave from surfer, he just took it back.

If Surfer simply took it away, Quasi would've turned back into a computer, but he didn't. Instead during his transmutation he said he's losing the ability to move, think, and speak, eventually turning into a statue. It's obvious he was turned to stone.

Agree to disagree then.

Sure, but I don' t see what your reasoning is.

Who is the closest Majestic analogue Surfer has fought?