Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
] HAD TO MAKE A CHOICE.. HE HAD NO TIME TO TO REACH INTO HIS BAG OF TRICKS SO YOU COULD BE HAPPY [/B]
Yes because EVERYONE KNOWS Batman keeps his cape in his "bag of tricks."
And as far as split second decisions go...is that like the SAME split second decision Batman had to capture The Joker & prevent his fall to death?
Was it a grappling line that he used also?
You go on about KNOWING EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT BATMAN & yet you fail to comprehend the capabilities of his cape that was established in BB?
He uses the cape TWICE in BB to glide....In the batcave to glide down to Rachel waking up & later over Gotham striking fear.
In TDK, he uses the cape to buffer his fall when he lands on top of the parked car in the parking lot & later to glide/fly over Hong Kong.
I mean you claim to know everything about these movies as much as your expertise on the character himself....and yet you lack any rational & reasonable logic whatsoever.
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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Christ,I seem to be the only one that remembers that Batman has a grappling line to swing on & capture crims as well as a cape capable of sustaining his weight & buffering his fall AS SEEN IN BATMAN BEGINS.Dent did not have to fall to his death or Batman sustain his injuries if either hook or cape was utilised.
I agree with your statement however I attribute this to bad writing. As of TDK Batman just seem dumb to me in many aspects. He just wasn’t the same Batman from Begins.
Now with that point aside, are you bring up this example to prove that Batman meant to kill Dent?
Originally posted by Impediment
Thank you, yes.I've been reading through this thread, and I have to throw it out there that major box office dollars do not make a movie is good. Major box office dollars make a movie successful. The Twilight series is unadulterated dog shit, yet it made billions. The Harry Potter franchise made billions and broke records, however I'm just not a HP fan and couldn't care less about these films as I think that they're lame.
The Nolan trilogy was good, I have to admit, albeit flawed.
I loved how stories like the Long Halloween, No Man's Land, and Knightfall were incorporated, but WHY does Batman have to reveal his identity in almost every damn film?
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Originally posted by Darth Martin
Batman as a whole is a brand. The title character is just that; a character in the story.By the time of TDKR I felt Gary Oldman WAS Gordon. The transformation of Dent to Two-Face was great and Ledger as Joker was monumental. When you add in Bane these are just much better than anything Burton could do with the characters. Batman, himself, you could argue Burton did better(I think it's close) but you can't just disregard the other characters.
I did like Michael Gough as Alfred though.
I never said Gordon or Dent were bad. They weren't (I even prefer Dent to Ledger in DK). They just don't "feel" as much like "Batman movies" as they really should, imo.
Like, Arkham Asylum "feels" like a "Batman game" to me. Burton's Batman "feels" like a "Batman movie" to me. If that makes sense.
Originally posted by marwash22
butthurt ass thread.this guy made an entire thread to b!tch about how he doesn't like MoS, as if we didn't get the point in the MoS Thread.
it's the popular thing right now, I guess.
The lack of the Gothic, somewhat noir-horror aesthetic that Batman can have at times is something that was really missing from the movies, though tbh, the fact that Nolan tried so hard to base them in "reality" hurts that Batman when it comes to including him in the Justice League, if it ever gets off the ground.
They have to change it.
imo, anyway.
Originally posted by NemeBro
BruceSkywalker is probably one of the worst posters on KMC.Nolan's "superhero" films are good IMO, but I can see why some might not like the more grounded take he has on superheroes.
p.s. I wonder if the thread maker loves Bryan Singer...
Originally posted by Kotor3
I agree with your statement however I attribute this to bad writing. As of TDK Batman just seem dumb to me in many aspects. He just wasn’t the same Batman from Begins.Now with that point aside, are you bring up this example to prove that Batman meant to kill Dent?
That's my point exactly...bad INCONSISTENT writing.
How are we to know if Batman meant to kill Dent...based on bad writing?
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
That's my point exactly...bad INCONSISTENT writing.
How are we to know if Batman meant to kill Dent...based on bad writing?
You make a valid point.
I am basing my comments upon the body of work from Batman in TDK and TDKR, which differ from that of Begins. You can’t let Ra's al Ghul die and then save the Joker. He is either one type of Batman or the other.
At least Burton’s Batman was consistent throughout his movies. The change in Batman’s persona from BB, to TDK and TDKR, is my biggest complaint with Nolan version otherwise the movies were great.