Nolan's Superhero Films

I remember when Neph tried to argue that Batman would have been a murderer had he not rescued the Joker in TDK. 😂

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
They touched on his detective skills in TDK when he was analyzing the bullets that were fired back in the batcave.

But yeah his detective skills were not focused on much in the trilogy really.

Did Batman actually come to any conclusion analysing the bullets? From memory Alfred interrupted with his rant about hunting a jewell thief "back in the day" & nothing really resulted from the bullet testing.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I remember when Neph tried to argue that Batman would have been a murderer had he not rescued the Joker in TDK. 😂

The fool. Since when has throwing someone off a skyscraper ever been classed as murder? What a digital dummy.

VVV He found a fingerprint on it from where Joker loaded the round (through the casing i.e by magic) which led him to the kidnapped officers.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Did Batman actually come to any conclusion analysing the bullets? From memory Alfred interrupted with his rant about hunting a jewell thief "back in the day" & nothing really resulted from the bullet testing.

Have to watch that part again, but like I said, his detective skills were just touched on in that scene.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The fool. Since when has throwing someone off a skyscraper ever been classed as murder? What a digital dummy.

Would have been self defence I think.

Joker already said he wasn't going to kill him.

The "murder victim" in question was a notorious terrorist with a high body count who had just taken a dozen? people hostage and had pummeled the "murderer" with a pipe and mauled him with attack dogs. Not to mention his imminent threat to blow up a couple of heavily populated barges.

If knocking that guy off your chest when he's holding you at knifepoint constitutes murder in England, then it's no wonder you all aren't a superpower anymore.

He didn't knock him off his chest. Watch the scene, he literally grabs him and throws him over the edge.

And yes, obviously as I said its that he's killing in defense of another i.e. not legally "murder", if you want to play semantics. He would have killed him though. Just like with Dent, Bruce proved that he was willing to kill in order to save a life. That is, had he not saved him.

Well sure. There's a difference though between killer and murderer.

I doubt Batman cares tbh.

Batman has killed in most of his movies, the body counts just vary. The whole "not a killer" thing is a relatively new concept in the comics too.

But that's off topic, I think.

As far as Nolan's trilogy goes, I think that he makes good movies, sometimes great movies, but whether, say, the Dark Knight, or any of his trilogy is a great Batman movie, that's not something i'm sure about, tbh. Burton, for all his eccentricities, came closer to the spirit of the character than Nolan did, even if Nolan's movies are technically superior.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Burton, for all his eccentricities, came closer to the spirit of the character than Nolan did, even if Nolan's movies are technically superior.

Thank you, yes.

I've been reading through this thread, and I have to throw it out there that major box office dollars do not make a movie is good. Major box office dollars make a movie successful. The Twilight series is unadulterated dog shit, yet it made billions. The Harry Potter franchise made billions and broke records, however I'm just not a HP fan and couldn't care less about these films as I think that they're lame.

The Nolan trilogy was good, I have to admit, albeit flawed.

I loved how stories like the Long Halloween, No Man's Land, and Knightfall were incorporated, but WHY does Batman have to reveal his identity in almost every damn film?

Originally posted by -Pr-
As far as Nolan's trilogy goes, I think that he makes good movies, sometimes great movies, but whether, say, the Dark Knight, or any of his trilogy is a great Batman movie, that's not something i'm sure about, tbh.

By the time of TDKR I felt Gary Oldman WAS Gordon. The transformation of Dent to Two-Face was great and Ledger as Joker was monumental. When you add in Bane these are just much better than anything Burton could do with the characters. Batman, himself, you could argue Burton did better(I think it's close) but you can't just disregard the other characters.

I did like Michael Gough as Alfred though.

God, yes, don't get me started on Gough. Caine is an indisputably superb actor, but Gough is the quintessential Alfred IMHO and always will be.

His scene with Clooney where they talk about him dying was the best part of the whole movie.

butthurt ass thread.

this guy made an entire thread to b!tch about how he doesn't like MoS, as if we didn't get the point in the MoS Thread.

Originally posted by Nephthys

VVV He found a fingerprint on it from where Joker loaded the round (through the casing i.e by magic) which led him to the kidnapped officers.

How does finding a print lead to locating the kidnapped officers?
What was the clue to their location?

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
How does finding a print lead to locating the kidnapped officers?
What was the clue to their location?

The kidnapped officers were in the apartment that belonged to fingerprint's owner.

Originally posted by ares834
The kidnapped officers were in the apartment that belonged to fingerprint's owner.

But it's established that the prints belonged to The Joker.

So the Joker's name was on the lease to the apartment? 🙄

No, it wasn't the Joker's fingerprints on the bullet. It's one of his goons who is named Melvin White.

Originally posted by ares834
No, it wasn't the Joker's fingerprints on the bullet. It's one of his goons who is named Melvin White.

Sorry, I'm just going by Neph's post that it was Joker who loaded the round.