Originally posted by DARTH POWER
His track record.Honestly he went all out for MOS. So that's pretty much the best he's going to give. Granted the script might be better this time. But his Direction shouldn't be dependent on that.
Simply put he's no Whedon or Vaughn.
I don't think we've seen his best. Actually, on his Twitter he's stated BVS is the best thing he's directed. Not only that, but so far the script is a lot better than MOS. a lot better. Thanks chris terrio for that.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
I'm down with everything except the heels.Really don't understand why they couldn't just give her flat boots.
From a historical standpoint, Warriors would wear heels in battle focusing on horseback. The heel would help keep them in their horses stirrups, and helped with balance to ensure pristine targeting with bows and arrows, and any swordplay against other soldiers.
Originally posted by Quincywedge heels?
From a historical standpoint, Warriors would wear heels in battle focusing on horseback. The heel would help keep them in their horses stirrups, and helped with balance to ensure pristine targeting with bows and arrows, and any swordplay against other soldiers.
On an unrelated note, does anyone find it kind of funny that Golgo dismisses RT on the basis that it isn't an authority, yet unironically puts AMC Talk on a pedestal as if it is?
Originally posted by Arachnid1
That trailer was pretty mediocre. Thats not to say the movie will be, but the trailer needs to do a better job selling it. I remember being blown away by the Man of Steel trailer and rewatching it a hundred times. Thats not the case here.
Considering the movie's still a year away from release...I can seriously understand why they're not giving too much away at this stage.
If you were expecting a proper trailer now...we'd be getting 20 minute long trailers before the year was even over.
Originally posted by Quincy
So Batman was Batman for a year before he quits for 8...?
Nolan had no concept of time whatsoever...especially when it came to TDKR.
*The motor-cycle chase from the Stock Exchange that starts mid-afternoon & ends late at night.
*Bane having the time to take Batman halfway around the world to imprison him in the pit.
*Unknown time factor on how long it took for Bruce's back to "heal" & for him to get back to Gotham.
*A ticking time bomb that even though Batman has no idea when it's set to go off...has time to flirt with Selina, save Gordon, rig a burning bat-symbol on a bridge & fix the auto-pilot...
Originally posted by Golgo13
That's what Snyder needs. A good script to work with.
That's the worrisome thing with him. The script has to be amazing for him to deliver.
I really hope this is his best work to date. But even if he kills it with this, I still wouldn't want him to direct Justice League. He's just not consistent enough and giving 3 films in a row to any single director is a risk. Heck even Whedon's not sticking around for Avengers 3.
Snyder can deliver sometimes, but like I said he's no Whedon or Vaughn. WB have invested way too much of their biggest Dc films on this guy Imho. And he's not even got the best track record.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That's the worrisome thing with him. The script has to be amazing for him to deliver.I really hope this is his best work to date. But even if he kills it with this, I still wouldn't want him to direct Justice League. He's just not consistent enough and giving 3 films in a row to any single director is a risk. Heck even Whedon's not sticking around for Avengers 3.
Snyder can deliver sometimes, but like I said he's no Whedon or Vaughn. WB have invested way too much of their biggest Dc films on this guy Imho. And he's not even got the best track record.
Well, Chris Terrio is writing Justice League, so I'm not worried. Everyone (Ben, Jesse, Jeremy Irons, etc...) has been praising the script, so I trust Chris to deliver something smart.
Snyder inconsistent? I used to think so, but the only movie I haven't liked from him was Sucker Punch. Everything else I liked/loved.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Snyder can deliver sometimes, but like I said he's no Whedon or Vaughn. WB have invested way too much of their biggest Dc films on this guy Imho. And he's not even got the best track record.
I honestly don't understand the lack of faith or comparisons people always make when it comes to Snyder.
He's directed 7 movies so far & with the exception of Sucker Punch has proven a profitable block buster as far as studio executives are concerned.
Yeah ok, he's no Whedon...Vaughn is not that special IMO but at least I consider Snyder better than the Wach. "Bros".
Originally posted by Esau CairnYeah ok, he's no Whedon...Vaughn is not that special IMO but at least I consider Snyder better than the Wach. "Bros".
I'm not saying he's bad. I'm actually one of the few people here who enjoyed MOS. And I loved Watchmen. But DC's investing their 2 Biggest movies on him. That's what I just don't get.
Originally posted by Golgo13Snyder inconsistent? I used to think so, but the only movie I haven't liked from him was Sucker Punch. Everything else I liked/loved.
That's not consistent enough for what the trust they've put on him. BvS and JL? That should be left to someone whoe proved himself as an Epic director IMHO.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Rottentomatoes isn't the only thing you should be looking at. Most people don't even post there.
Originally posted by TzeentchOn an unrelated note, does anyone find it kind of funny that Golgo dismisses RT on the basis that it isn't an authority, yet unironically puts AMC Talk on a pedestal as if it is?
You do both realize that the highest RT scores (critics and audience) for superhero films goes to TDK right?
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You missed out this one:http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight/
tomatometer 94% audience 94%
But yeah Golgo screw AMC and John Campea!
I like Snyder, and I understand why they choose him. In terms of direction and cinematography, Snyder, more than any other director, including Nolan or Whedon, is a master of converting the OTT action and scope of the comic panel into live action (you could argue Vaughn does OTT good too, but Vaughn is more silly OTT (Kingsman or Kick Ass), whereas Snyder is more epic OTT; and I don't consider XM:FC better than any of Snyder's good films). Unlike Whedon or Nolan however, he is not a master writer (as evidenced by Sucker Punch) and needs a good script in order to make a good movie. That being stated, when he gets a good script, his films are amazing (as evidenced by 300 and Watchmen)
I think with MOS he just had the bad luck of getting Goyer's script, which while certainly not bad and I've admitted to enjoying, (and fervently defended) many times , was definitely flawed, which is something you do not want when making a film about somebody as iconic as Superman. With a Superman film, especially in this day and age where the internet allows caustic criticism on an unprecedented scale , the film has to be as flawlessly perfect as Superman himself or else it will get shitted on for even the slightest flaw, which is exactly what happened.
Luckily, we've got a new scriptwriter this time around, so I'm sure this will be much better than MOS. Honestly, based on the trailer, this looks like it could be better than TDK. If they've managed to acknowledge and learn from the mistakes of MOS (and based on various interviews, it seems they did), DOJ has a chance to go down as the GOAT comic book film. TBH, I'm expecting it to be far better than AOU and possibly even TFA.
Originally posted by Mindset
This movie could be complete shit, it doesn't matter, it's too big to fail.
I'm sure anything less than a Billion Dollars WW will be considered a failure. I personally think even a Billion would be a disappointment.
After all the last 2 Batman solo films made that much.
Originally posted by -Pr-
If BvS isn't a resounding success, I'd be very surprised if Snyder is allowed to stay on for JL.
They would have to find someone else right away though as they'd already be in Pre-Production at that point I'm sure.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I like Snyder, and I understand why they choose him. In terms of direction and cinematography, Snyder, more than any other director, including Nolan or Whedon, is a master of converting the OTT action and scope of the comic panel into live action (you could argue Vaughn does OTT good too, but Vaughn is more silly OTT (Kingsman or Kick Ass), whereas Snyder is more epic OTT; and I don't consider XM:FC better than any of Snyder's good films). Unlike Whedon or Nolan however, he is not a master writer (as evidenced by Sucker Punch) and needs a good script in order to make a good movie. That being stated, when he gets a good script, his films are amazing (as evidenced by 300 and Watchmen)I think with MOS he just had the bad luck of getting Goyer's script, which while certainly not bad and I've admitted to enjoying, (and fervently defended) many times , was definitely flawed, which is something you do not want when making a film about somebody as iconic as Superman. With a Superman film, especially in this day and age where the internet allows caustic criticism on an unprecedented scale , the film has to be as flawlessly perfect as Superman himself or else it will get shitted on for even the slightest flaw, which is exactly what happened.
Luckily, we've got a new scriptwriter this time around, so I'm sure this will be much better than MOS. Honestly, based on the trailer, this looks like it could be better than TDK. If they've managed to acknowledge and learn from the mistakes of MOS (and based on various interviews, it seems they did), DOJ has a chance to go down as the GOAT comic book film. TBH, I'm expecting it to be far better than AOU and possibly even TFA.
Pretty much. Snyder is one of the better directors working today in terms of action and visuals.