Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think they had to at all. Showing her in her gown at the party and letting people know Wonder Woman would be in the movie could have been done without showing her in costume, and it would have been a better reveal when the time came, imo.
I don't think that would be as impactful, IMO. Plus, as the numbers showed, it helped a lot.
Originally posted by -Pr-
The movie was making enough of an impact already, imo.If the movie needs a WW appearance when she isn't even a main character, that hurts the movie more than anything imo.
Yes, for certain ages and males. El Miyambe pointed out that it needed to work on the female demographic, which is why they showed WW. Now it jumped several points.
Originally posted by Zack M
They had to in order to draw the female crowd and it's working according to the numbers.
Do you think a movie needs a female lead character to draw the "female crowd" ? Just look at the recent success of Deadpool.
I am (genuinely) interested in the numbers you refer to though.
Originally posted by Zack M
Yes, for certain ages and males. El Miyambe pointed out that it needed to work on the female demographic, which is why they showed WW. Now it jumped several points.
Female viewers turn up to watch superhero movies all of the time. They were going to go and see SvB anyway.
I think it's a bad way to advertise the movie, draws attention away from the core concept, and makes the trailer worse for it.
Originally posted by Placidity
Do you think a movie needs a female lead character to draw the "female crowd" ? Just look at the recent success of Deadpool.I am (genuinely) interested in the numbers you refer to though.
If they want to reach it's full potential, sure.
I posted the link above, but here it is again.
http://heroichollywood.com/updated-box-office-tracking-batman-v-superman-dawn-justice/
BTW, Umberto has spoken to more people who saw BVS last week and some of them down right HATED MOS, but thought BVS was great. A VERY good sign, if true.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Female viewers turn up to watch superhero movies all of the time. They were going to go and see SvB anyway.I think it's a bad way to advertise the movie, draws attention away from the core concept, and makes the trailer worse for it.
Not if it was tracking 140 OW. If BVS draws MORE of the female crowd, the number could actually double, if they draw in the families and female demogreaph.
Originally posted by Zack M
Not if it was tracking 140 OW. If BVS draws MORE of the female crowd, the number could actually double, if they draw in the families and female demogreaph.
Not what?
They were drawing in plenty of families already. It's arguably the two biggest superhero icons in the world. You talk like they're only going to see the movie now that they've shown WW, when the hype would naturally build for a movie as it gets closer to release.
And even if it did make more money, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm speaking about if from a creative, thematic standpoint.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Not what?They were drawing in plenty of families already. It's arguably the two biggest superhero icons in the world. You talk like they're only going to see the movie now that they've shown WW, when the hype would naturally build for a movie as it gets closer to release.
And even if it did make more money, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm speaking about if from a creative, thematic standpoint.
Not reaching it's full potential box office wise. That's why they did it in the first place. And agree to disagree on the creative standpoint. I thought the 2nd trailer was on the best trailers I have seen.
Originally posted by Zack M
Not reaching it's full potential box office wise. That's why they did it in the first place. And agree to disagree on the creative standpoint. I thought the 2nd trailer was on the best trailers I have seen.
Disagree tbh. shrug
I don't think having her in the trailer alone is going to make someone that wasn't going to see it before, suddenly decide they want to see it.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Disagree tbh. shrugI don't think having her in the trailer alone is going to make someone that wasn't going to see it before, suddenly decide they want to see it.
She was used sparingly in the second one and it was sort of a tease. Definitely effective to the GA who didn't know WW was going to be in the movie. I pointed out a link a while ago that social media went crazy after they saw WW at the end. And that's the reason WB did that.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think they had to at all. Showing her in her gown at the party and letting people know Wonder Woman would be in the movie could have been done without showing her in costume, and it would have been a better reveal when the time came, imo.
Tbh I think they wanted to properly market that this film will be the live action debut of WW. Can't blame them for that. That will help this films OW and Overall Box Office.
Speaking of which, as much as I loved the new trailer, I think Spider-Man's cameo in CW would have been a great reveal in the film.
Originally posted by Zack M
She was used sparingly in the second one and it was sort of a tease. Definitely effective to the GA who didn't know WW was going to be in the movie. I pointed out a link a while ago that social media went crazy after they saw WW at the end. And that's the reason WB did that.
I don't dispute that it got a response on social media. I think it was still a bad call either way. Like a lesser form of the Doomsday spoiling.
She was already cast in the movie. If people didn't know she was in it when she was already in the trailer as Diana Prince, that's their fault.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Tbh I think they wanted to properly market that this film will be the live action debut of WW. Can't blame them for that. That will help this films OW and Overall Box Office.Speaking of which, as much as I loved the new trailer, I think Spider-Man's cameo in CW would have been a great reveal in the film.
Agreed @ spidey.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't dispute that it got a response on social media. I think it was still a bad call either way. Like a lesser form of the Doomsday spoiling.She was already cast in the movie. If people didn't know she was in it when she was already in the trailer as Diana Prince, that's their fault.
Agreed @ spidey.
For a fan side, yes, I agree to a point. I think many of the Avengers trailers showed a bunch of money shots that I wanted to see for myself, but to draw the general audience, they did the right thing.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Tbh I think they wanted to properly market that this film will be the live action debut of WW. Can't blame them for that. That will help this films OW and Overall Box Office.Speaking of which, as much as I loved the new trailer, I think Spider-Man's cameo in CW would have been a great reveal in the film.
WOM is instantaneous. By showing Spidey, I think CW will make a LOT more now, compared if they hadn't showed him.