Originally posted by Nibedicus
Sorry, Saturn Girl. Like I said, got little time to go thru the scan thoroughly (and tying on my Iphone but even a quick scan is already telling me a lot of the context is getting ignored.
Oh, I thought you meant miss martian had a universal feat. Ia still laugh at the notion that surfer can toy with the jla.
Originally posted by curryman
I even referenced Thor's encounter with her earlier.You didn't read neither mine nor Abhi's posts. Just do yourself a favour and drop out.
If you've got the right Goddess, then something is not computing with you and I don't know what it is. Fernus is several tiers below Goddess. Now, I think I will do myself a favor and drop out.
Originally posted by Ambient
I mentioned Thor and Hulk to convey that the scan u posted to support your claim is a low showing of Surfer, as pointed out that it only took 1 single physical blow coming from the machine to lay Surfer on ground whence the brick characters I mentioned could hardly put him with several blows.The second time also coming from the same issue was not a mindrape as u suggested and again this was a drop from an unsuspecting Surfer.
No he was not depowered by Galactus and I never said he was. I was referring to Reed's sonic shark invention.
The scan below explains it.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/qlol.jpg/
And here he mention it again.
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God cable force mind link with Surfer during the fight if he could have swayed him via telepathy he could done it already.
The Inciters - http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Inciters
Your also forgetting Surfer TP resistant from the abstract entity - Other.
Again choosing Surfers lowest TP resistance as oppose his standard Is clear indication of lowballing the character to present your case, it's really not helping you.
It didn't take all his power to defeat the Fragment of the Other, He defeated it with his own TP blast.
http://imageshack.us/f/694/bxdo.jpg/
As for ur other post, I get it Fernus is an uber TP user but so is the Goddess and the Other, to which Surfer not only resisted they're manipulation but triumph against them.
Oh I comprehend his power completely, it's just that when u counter argue against a character, u base your opinion on they're lowest standard therefore your only conclusion is we don't get the character your presenting.. Almost every time..
http://imageshack.us/f/5/peqo.jpg/
That picture right there should explain why, that's only 8 cosmic cube right there when she started TP the whole Universe she had 30 at the time Surfer and Thor broke free of her control.
Waiting for someone to ask "What makes you think the Other's TP is as strong as Fernus?" 🙄
Also, I'd love to see an explanation of how Surfer was able to completely resist Uber Cable, in close proximity combat. The same Cable that took over the Earth with TP/TK.
Originally posted by ..😖n0w:..
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Originally posted by zopzop
Wowo. They were "vaporizing" sh|t and then rebuilding the damage they were causing and the Surfer ultimately winds up winning!Thanks for those.
Yup! Right in the middle of it, Cable mindlink with Surfer.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Would you place Cable above Fernus?
Originally posted by AmbientAre you sure about that? I recall thor oneshotting him. Also he wasn't even thrown to ground because they were in space.
I mentioned Thor and Hulk to convey that the scan u posted to support your claim is a low showing of Surfer, as pointed out that it only took 1 single physical blow coming from the machine to lay Surfer on ground whence the brick characters I mentioned could hardly put him with several blows.
The second time also coming from the same issue was not a mindrape as u suggested and again this was a drop from an unsuspecting Surfer.It was absolutely a mindrape and it wasn't from the same issue.
No he was not depowered by Galactus and I never said he was. I was referring to Reed's sonic shark invention.Surfer was restored once he was freed by the barrier by Loki and Mephisto. Surfer has been drained nearly two dozen times since then and he always go back to being as powerful as before as soon as he gets to absorb starlight like dynamo city arc.The scan below explains it.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/qlol.jpg/
And here he mention it again.
God cable force mind link with Surfer during the fight if he could have swayed him via telepathy he could done it already.The good thing is that Cable wanted to get beaten then, wouldn't it?
The Inciters - http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/IncitersLink not working for me. Give me the isue number.
Your also forgetting Surfer TP resistant from the abstract entity - Other.The other wasn't an abstract in SS v3. The fragments of that consciousness surfer resisted couldn't even break a normal human.
Again choosing Surfers lowest TP resistance as oppose his standard Is clear indication of lowballing the character to present your case, it's really not helping you.You are taking the opposite track here, calling everything surfer hasn't resisted as a low showing.
It didn't take all his power to defeat the Fragment of the Other, He defeated it with his own TP blast."Channeling all his cosmic power" means what now?
As for ur other post, I get it Fernus is an uber TP user but so is the Goddess and the Other, to which Surfer not only resisted they're manipulation but triumph against them.He only resisted against Goddess' subtle telepathic influence. It wasn't an all out TP attack. Other killed him by mindrape. What are you talking about?
Oh I comprehend his power completely, it's just that when u counter argue against a character, u base your opinion on they're lowest standard therefore your only conclusion is we don't get the character your presenting.. Almost every time..Not exactly. I go by average showings of characters. Going by high end feats, superman shits on surfer's TP resistance and yet Fernus mindraped him.
http://imageshack.us/f/5/peqo.jpg/Image is removed. Goddess wasn't concentrating on surfer and thor only.That picture right there should explain why, that's only 8 cosmic cube right there when she started TP the whole Universe she had 30 at the time Surfer and Thor broke free of her control.
Originally posted by AmbientThey "reached" to every telepath across cosmos isn't a universal level feat? How many telepath you know who can link themselves to every telepath in universe?
Lols! Yeah I know eh."Through the telepaths among them they link. Through that link they reach out to telepaths throughout the cosmos."
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I'm on blackberry. It's a pain to respond to this post.
Originally posted by abhilegend
They "reached" to every telepath across cosmos isn't a universal level feat? How many telepath you know who can link themselves to every telepath in universe?
About as much as logging on to the internet as being a "global telecommunication feat".
From the parts of the scene that are shown, it looks like the link was SG/MM (and isn't thst the Wizard Shazam there? Doesn't he have impressive TP abilities himself?) amping their abilities off everyone who joined their hands together and thru that, reaching out to the cosmos to every other telepath, the combination of every telepath in the cosmos linking together and reaching out, boosting their power and further reaching out to more and more minds and in the end establishing a shared mutual connection.
That is, unless, I'm missing context that is not provided with the scan in question?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
About as much as logging on to the internet as being a "global telecommunication feat".From the parts of the scene that are shown, it looks like the link was SG/MM (and isn't thst the Wizard Shazam there? Doesn't he have impressive TP abilities himself?) amping their abilities off everyone who joined their hands together and thru that, reaching out to the cosmos to every other telepath, the combination of every telepath in the cosmos linking together and reaching out, boosting their power and further reaching out to more and more minds and in the end establishing a shared mutual connection.
That is, unless, I'm missing context that is not provided with the scan in question?
I don't think it was intended this way. Do the Martians act as a hive? i don't think so. I think each brain amped them. Similar to how in the death of the new gods, each soul DS gained of a new god amped him exponentially, instead of just adding the power of the dead new god.
