Avengers 2: Age of Ultron

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I think there's a really easy explanation for why Thor is shown as less powerful. It's the same reason Superman doesn't unleash, Thor would would/could cause too much damage to the environment or others if he went all out, and if any of you play sports or have fought, you should know going half ass never yields good results. So, just think of it as Thor going half ass for the benefit of Earth. We all know how nasty he is when he's on a planet where he's not worried about casualties. Just ask the frost Giants.

I reckon, we'll see Thors true power forthcoming.

Honestly if you stop and think its hard to think of any true limits shown on Thor's strength or power in the movies. The reason is simple, they haven't shown them yet. When Thor cuts loose big things have happened. I think he just holds back WAY too much. I don't really have any complaints regarding him in this movie he just kinda hit things around and almost sleepwalked through the movie until they needed him to blow up the island.

Originally posted by Inhuman
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Well he did have that scene were he blew up a city sized chunk of earth

There's a big difference between a great Feat and a Memorable scene.

Watched this finally. I enjoyed this movie a lot. I will have to rewatch it a few times but honestly this might be better than the first Avengers in my book.

Originally posted by Newjak
Watched this finally. I enjoyed this movie a lot. I will have to rewatch it a few times but honestly this might be better than the first Avengers in my book.

I agree

Only thing that I don't like seeing is Iron man still hovering with his palms out. He looks like he's still just learning to fly after multiple upgrades. Shouldn't he have stabilizers or something by now lol

Originally posted by ares834
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I'll give you IM vs Hulk but that is really it from an actions set point. But I honestly think he has more memorable scenes than any other (albeit just not in any action). Like when he powered up vision or his joke about Hulk's victims.

Honestly, I think Thor was handled far better in this film. Here he seemed easily the most powerful of the Core team. Ultron never really seemed a threat to him, his eye were fastened on the far more threatening Ragnarok. Plus the scene where he sorta went "ninja" on a bunch of the drones was awesome as was it when he blew up the island.

Finally, he seemed to just be "beyond" his teammates. The Avengers seemed focused on saving civilization whereas Thor is more focused on saving the cosmos. Only Vision who was "on the side of life" seemed to be on his level in that regard and the two sorta seemed to have a bromance going on. Heck, Vision emulates Thor when he creates his cape. Not to mention Thor is the only one to see the bigger cosmic picture and to notice the looming threat of Thanos.

Meh.

The best

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comedy moments were still from Thor,
i'll give him that in this film. Even if the film didn't make me laugh anywhere near as much as the last one.

But the last thing I want is Thor's main role as

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the comic relief character.

Yes his

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concerns were more cosmic
. And I hope that builds into a much bigger role for Thor. But it doesn't really increase his role in this film which was about Ultron.

I'm not entirely sure Thor was implied to

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be the most powerful. Vision saved him from Ultron, then Vision and IM helped him blast Ultron. And Vision's power was made out to be a big deal. But it's not like anyone said anything like "Where's Thor? We can't take Ultron without him."

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Meh.

The best

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comedy moments were still from Thor,
i'll give him that in this film. Even if the film didn't make me laugh anywhere near as much as the last one.

But the last thing I want is Thor's main role as

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the comic relief character.

Yes his

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concerns were more cosmic
. And I hope that builds into a much bigger role for Thor. But it doesn't really increase his role in this film which was about Ultron.

I'm not entirely sure Thor was implied to

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be the most powerful. Vision saved him from Ultron, then Vision and IM helped him blast Ultron. And Vision's power was made out to be a big deal. But it's not like anyone said anything like "Where's Thor? We can't take Ultron without him."

You're correct in that Thor didn't have much prominence in this movie, he did feel a little like a supporting character. But he got a fair share of the screentime and was treated well imo. While Tony and Cap are at the forefront of Avengers 2 and Civil War, Thor will probably be at the forefront of Avengers 3 infinity war.

Originally posted by Firefly218
While Tony and Cap are at the forefront of Avengers 2 and Civil War, Thor will probably be at the forefront of Avengers 3 infinity war.

I really hope so.

Getting pretty worried, so many people complaining. Haven't seen it yet.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Getting pretty worried, so many people complaining. Haven't seen it yet.

It's not that bad mate, just people have some strong views in some places and some in others.

You'll enjoy it. There's nothing wrong with it so to speak unless you want to go into a more in depth criticism so to speak.

I hope you're right.

WWK saying it has more forced humour than IM3 gave me shivers, though. I actually had to turn off my dvd at a certain point when I was watching IM3, the humour was that bad. Unbearable, even. And I don't have high expectations in that regard...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I hope you're right.

WWK saying it has more forced humour than IM3 gave me shivers, though. I actually had to turn off my dvd at a certain point when I was watching IM3, the humour was that bad. Unbearable, even. And I don't have high expectations in that regard...

Don't worry it's nothing like that.

He also made a couple of choice comments like

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Ultron getting knocked by Hulk as to prove that he was weak when in fact Ultron was damaged at the time
so I wouldn't worry too much. Not that I meant hat rudely to him but I don't think he was being unbiased in his criticism.

I found Iron Man 3 dreadful and AoU brilliant. Every film has it's bad points but then it isn't that bad to disregard it.

You'll enjoy it.

Good to see you back Nimbus 👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Getting pretty worried, so many people complaining. Haven't seen it yet.

I still think it's better than the first, but people have higher expectations now.

Well it didn't beat the originals opening weekend which is odd.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well it didn't beat the originals opening weekend which is odd.

The weekends not over. People watching the boxing last night will catch this film today most likely.

But it broke A1's opening day.

I'm not going to call this film bad or terrible when it has at least 3 Great action sequences, and a couple of decent character moments. It is good. And it will match or surpass the Original's box office Imo. Down to it being good plus building on the hype of the first, and Marvel's continuing growing brand name.

But in terms of quality it has some clear faults, and is definitely not on par with the First IMO. And most people I've talked to seem to feel the same.

No chance that this makes more domestically. The opening weekend will be lower and it's going to have worse legs due to this being a sequel and worse WoM. WW it will likely make more though simply due to how much the OS market has expanded even in the last few years.

Joss Whedon apparently had a terrible time watching the final cut of Age of Ultron

Though he gave his all to Age of Ultron, Whedon hasn’t been able to watch the final cut all the way through yet — “I tried,” said the typically hard-on-himself filmmaker, “and I had a terrible time” — but he’s heartened by the glowing reaction online from early press screenings. “Is it perfect? It is not,” said Whedon. “Is it me? It's so baldly, nakedly me. To do something that is as personal as this movie is — on that budget, for a studio that needs a summer tentpole — is an extraordinary privilege.”

😬

He disliked both

Originally posted by ares834
No chance that this makes more domestically. The opening weekend will be lower and it's going to have worse legs due to this being a sequel and worse WoM. WW it will likely make more though simply due to how much the OS market has expanded even in the last few years.

Dunno, I mean IM3 made 1.2Billion WW ($400mill Domestic). Given that I find it hard to believe WoM will be a problem for this one which also stars IM, is miles better than IM3 plus has the bonus of all the Avengers ergo- a lot more excitement/hype.