Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Don't really see why that should be expected.All it would have taken is
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make the Ultron vs Thor fight to be much more Iconic. Show Ultron wasting the other Avengers, before Thor intervenes. Make that an epic evenly fought fight which Thor begins to win until all Ultron's drones enter the fight.
That would really shit on the rest of the team and make them look irrelevant.
Originally posted by Nephthys
That would really shit on the rest of the team and make them look irrelevant.
Nah it wouldn't at all.
They all have their roles to play. IM is still the one who circles around figuring out how to save
Spoiler:. Cap is still the leader and heart of the team. Hulk is still the strongest and most powerful in an H2H scenario.
the island
But Thor is all out the most powerful. He just is. He's the god on the team. Like Superman is to the Justice League. Except in Justice League Superman's the most powerful, the leader, the heart of the team and the smartest. But in Avengers those qualities are spread throughout the team. So it's much easier to give them all their uses.
Whether Thor solos or not, either way, nothing excuses just having Thor around, but not do much.
It really would. If Thor was shown to be more powerful than all the other Avengers put together that would suck balls and make them look totally useless compared to him in terms of combat. In an action movie. It would be like why are they even bothering? Every time it showed them fighting it wouldn't be as cool or have as much tension because their contribution doesn't really matter anymore. Thor can be the most powerful without having him eclipse everyone else. I think its great how every character gets the chance to look like the best instead of just playing second fiddle to one main guy. Like an actual team.
You actively want the rest of the team to get beat up so Thor looks better than all of them. Sorry, but that reeks of fanboyism.
Also Superman isn't the smartest member of the JL, not by a freaking longshot. And Superman is a bad example because a lot of the league are almost as strong as him and theres still tons of issues with him being overpowered.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It really would. If Thor was shown to be more powerful than all the other Avengers put together that would suck balls and make them look totally useless compared to him in terms of combat. In an action movie. It would be like why are they even bothering? Every time it showed them fighting it wouldn't be as cool or have as much tension because their contribution doesn't really matter anymore. Thor can be the most powerful without having him eclipse everyone else. I think its great how every character gets the chance to look like the best instead of just playing second fiddle to one main guy. Like an actual team.You actively want the rest of the team to get beat up so Thor looks better than all of them. Sorry, but that reeks of fanboyism.
Also Superman isn't the smartest member of the JL, not by a freaking longshot. And Superman is a bad example because a lot of the league are almost as strong as him and theres still tons of issues with him being overpowered.
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MCU isn't a direct adaptation, it's a rendition. In this rendition, Thor is less powerful.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It really would. If Thor was shown to be more powerful than all the other Avengers put together that would suck balls and make them look totally useless compared to him in terms of combat. In an action movie. It would be like why are they even bothering? Every time it showed them fighting it wouldn't be as cool or have as much tension because their contribution doesn't really matter anymore. Thor can be the most powerful without having him eclipse everyone else. I think its great how every character gets the chance to look like the best instead of just playing second fiddle to one main guy. Like an actual team.You actively want the rest of the team to get beat up so Thor looks better than all of them. Sorry, but that reeks of fanboyism.
I agree, but Thor should be a little more uber in the films. I'm still waiting to see a God Blast from him.
Also Superman isn't the smartest member of the JL, not by a freaking longshot. And Superman is a bad example because a lot of the league are almost as strong as him and theres still tons of issues with him being overpowered. [/B]
Superman is among the smartest members in the JLA. Who is ahead of him? Batman uses his intelligence differently, but he can't learn things like surgery on the fly like Superman. The only reason people have a problem with Supes being overpowered is because they don't like him. There are a handful of heroes that don't have a weakness and rival Supes in power.
I enjoyed watching Avengers: Age of Ultron. I'll need to see it again to catch some stuff I missed due to sound drowning laughter and to determine were it ranks among the MCU.
Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotAlso what did you think of the Vision just out of interest? Like I mentioned I was actually happy with how he was portrayed.
(made an error in my other post, I meant to say Vision with the Mind Gem. Not Ultron)
On a purely physical side, didnt like the overtly human face, it needed just a tad more cybernetics. I hate that hes
Spoiler:that level of atomic manipulation wasnt even adressed in his creation and i feel it was put in for fan wank because trying to write in a feesable way he would have that ability in a world that has clear, established, tech boundaries was a bit too hard for the writers.
made of Vibranium and was demonstrating his intangibillity
Id prefer im naked, no homo, like dr manhatten, no need for clothes just etch the "A" symbol on his arm and move on.
But i liked it overall. Im especially liking that hes the new Power house of the team, and i can see hes gonna be the first one to approach Thanos upon reveal, and as a display of power by Thanos, for the audience, we'll likely see Thanos simply raise his hand and rip the Gem out of his head with very little effort and plenty of cinema audience gasp. Will be a good moment. :-)
Originally posted by Juk3n
On a purely physical side, didnt like the overtly human face, it needed just a tad more cybernetics. I hate that hesSpoiler:that level of atomic manipulation wasnt even adressed in his creation and i feel it was put in for fan wank because trying to write in a feesable way he would have that ability in a world that has clear, established, tech boundaries was a bit too hard for the writers.
made of Vibranium and was demonstrating his intangibillityId prefer im naked, no homo, like dr manhatten, no need for clothes just etch the "A" symbol on his arm and move on.
But i liked it overall. Im especially liking that hes the new Power house of the team, and i can see hes gonna be the first one to approach Thanos upon reveal, and as a display of power by Thanos, for the audience, we'll likely see Thanos simply raise his hand and rip the Gem out of his head with very little effort and plenty of cinema audience gasp. Will be a good moment. :-)
Yeah Vision is awesome and definitely was given a ton of credit
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where it was stated that "it" would be more powerful than all of us
It's gonna be good to see more of him.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It really would. If Thor was shown to be more powerful than all the other Avengers put together that would suck balls and make them look totally useless compared to him in terms of combat.
Could've just elaborated on the Thor-Ultron fight a bit, instead of having him stall for Vision to prepare his internet-attack.
It's not like cutting 3 minutes from Hawkeye's 20 mintue ultron-shooting scenes would've killed the movie for anyone.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Alo Superman isn't the smartest member of the JL, not by a freaking longshot.
Haha what
Originally posted by Nephthys
It really would. If Thor was shown to be more powerful than all the other Avengers put together that would suck balls and make them look totally useless compared to him in terms of combat. In an action movie. It would be like why are they even bothering? Every time it showed them fighting it wouldn't be as cool or have as much tension because their contribution doesn't really matter anymore. Thor can be the most powerful without having him eclipse everyone else. I think its great how every character gets the chance to look like the best instead of just playing second fiddle to one main guy. Like an actual team.You actively want the rest of the team to get beat up so Thor looks better than all of them. Sorry, but that reeks of fanboyism.
Nah they could all help him the final victory.
You're saying it would make the rest of the team look bad, but instead we have a case of Thor (the most powerful Avenger) looking pretty useless.
At least have a big Hulk and Thor vs Ultron after IM and Cap get beaten down.
I mean jeez that would have been frigging Awesome. Much better than what we got, and without neutering anyone.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Also Superman isn't the smartest member of the JL, not by a freaking longshot. And Superman is a bad example because a lot of the league are almost as strong as him and theres still tons of issues with him being overpowered.
Yeah so? Hulk is actually physically stronger than Thor, but lack versatility.
IM is a lot smarter than Thor, but lacks power in comparison.
Cap is a natural leader, and had an exciting 1 on 1 with Ultron himself (best fight in the movie Imo).
So no one needs to be neutered, or do nothing. Everyone's strengths can be hilighted, and everyone can have great moments. Just like in Avengers 1.
Again, I agree with most of you that Thor got THE SHAFT; but not the way you guys are saying. I feel his power levels/showings were bad. Not his screen time.
But again, this is nothing new. The only movie that Thor has been close to "Thor", was in his first solo movie. While he was actually Thor in that movie his power levels were very good. I mean, he freaking straight up beat The Destroyer armor 1v1... He hasn't done much that resembled that level of power since....which is a crying shame.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Again, I agree with most of you that Thor got THE SHAFT; but not the way you guys are saying. I feel his power levels/showings were bad. Not his screen time.
I'm saying he doesn't need to have as much screen time as the others, as long as he has that Epic battle displaying his true Power.
Maybe they're saving that for Thanos though.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Why did Stark need to build an AI? Jarvis is an AI, no?
Actually, yeah good point. Given Jarvis showed he was capable of operating multiple Iron Man suits in IM3. So there was
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the AI controlled world peacekeeping force he wanted
Clearly Jarvis
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could only run a limited number of armored suits and he wanted this Ultron thing that could control an unlimited number of suits maybe?? But then that doesn't make perfect sense either given Jarvis was changing codes faster than Ultron could crack them.
This has executive decisions all over it. The entire movie looked rushed. Everytime Marvel interferes too much the movie turns into crap. Even the end credits had little thought put into compare to the original Avengers.
They should just change it to Avengers: Age of Advertisement. So much product placement and sequel setups. I waited years for this and it was a big disappointment than IM3.
What the **** is wrong with you people and your nitpicks, Age of Ultron was spectacular.
The only flaw I saw as glaring was
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the defeat of Ultron. It was too easy and conveniant. Also the action didn't feel real at times, very CGI
Apart from those gripes, Whedon did an incredible job. The dialogue is sharp and exudes more family, as in makes the Avengers seem closer together. Scarlett Johannson was absolutely riveting as Black Widow this time around. Vision was badass. Andy Serkis was awesome as Klaw, James Spader's voice is super creepy and intimidating.
Once again though, this movie was more about the avengers and team dynamics than it was about the villain.
My Top 5:
1. The Avengers
2. Winter Soldier
3. Avengers Age of Ultron
4. Iron Man
5. Guardians of the Galaxy
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
This has executive decisions all over it. The entire movie looked rushed. Everytime Marvel interferes too much the movie turns into crap. Even the end credits had little thought put into compare to the original Avengers.They should just change it to Avengers: Age of Advertisement. So much product placement and sequel setups. I waited years for this and it was a big disappointment than IM3.
Oh come on, it was just a really fun movie. Your expectations must've been insanely high for you to consider the movie crap.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Oh come on, it was just a really fun movie. Your expectations must've been insanely high for you to consider the movie crap.
Expectations were for it to be as good as A1, or close to it. It didn't even touch A1.
Whedon did a Transformers on this sequel by just putting loads of action.
Plus he didn't do a good job of handling all the characters. Hawkeyes was handled well this time but Thor was royally screwed this time.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wait. It was WORSE than IM3? Can't believe it.
Nah it's a Good film, just not a Great film. IM3 sucked.