Orion W/ALE Vs Rune King Thor W/Power Gem

Started by Galan0076 pages

Originally posted by operator616
@golgo13:

the anti life equation and anti life entity are one and the same:

first of all, we learn that the source was separated by 3 skyfathers (death of the new gods #5) and was seeking to reunite with its other half (anti life entity) ever since

http://i.imgur.com/tStKSig.jpg

and the major crisis events prevented it from reuniting from its other half (same issue)

http://i.imgur.com/fcTXDQy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Fn9IBVD.jpg

this entity in scott is the embodiment of the anti life equation (DOTG #7)

http://i.imgur.com/l5GZwm2.jpg

the source finally merges with it - reunites - and becomes whole (same issue)

http://i.imgur.com/o5xPj8f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OLmLhM2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RRq9DRn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HAUaIdu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/y1wzX9O.jpg

Not much from DotNG is canon, though-- Final Crisis saw to that.

Originally posted by operator616

wisdom is part of omniscience, im not sure how can you
differentiate between them. and at the end of issue 85, literally the
last page proves that he isn't omniscient:

sure he had the "sight beyond sight" and even gazed into the
gungingap (norse void/nothingness) but he was never omniscient,
nor was it even mentioned.

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the anti life equation and anti life entity are one and the same:
first of all, we learn that the source was separated by 3 skyfathers
(death of the new gods #5) and was seeking to reunite with its
other half (anti life entity) ever since
and the major crisis events prevented it from reuniting from its
other half (same issue)

this entity in scott is the embodiment of the anti life equation (DOTG #7)
the source finally merges with it - reunites - and becomes whole (same issue)
used the equation to defeat the Ecruos (orion #17);
they actually cancelled each other out (see the retelling from orion #18, to confirm this which i already posted)
that should also answer your other thread


Interesting stuff opr. Thanx for the info with scans. 👆

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I remember that. While you do have to have a level of power to have an effect on the World Tree, damaging it doesn't in itself make you a Multiversal power. Enchantress was endangering creation similarly by warping the World Tree which is pretty crazy but not in itself evidence of Multiversal power.

Although I get the gist of your Enchantress analogy, I am guessing the DC Yggdrasil is not a complete equivalent of the Marvel Yggdrasil.

you're correct in that assumption. 👆 dc/vertigo seemed to extend its influence beyond what marvel did. of course, it also throws a monkey wrench into some versions of cosmological continuity, but i guess marvel's tree may have some of the same implications. maybe?

^Iirc, in one of the Fraction-written issues, it was implied that the World Tree was connected to the whole metaverse or something. A professor type dude was explaining to Thor the concept of parallel worlds(in an unsuccessfully secularist manner) in that instance. Edit: It was Thor#615 I think.

That's the only occasion I know of where the Marvel Yggdrasil has been implicated to extend beyond the traditional Nine Realms. Though I am guessing Rage could pull out some more.

What's a metaverse?

Based on comic book interpretation, collection of all the infinite number of possible universes that can, have or will ever exist.

Based on dictionary definition:"a virtual-reality space in which users can interact with a computer-generated environment and other users."

So a different name for 'omniverse'?

Probably. The omniverse itself is an invented-by-comics term, and Fraction was trying to go for the Hawking/Sagan-type cosmologist feel in that scene.

Edit: IIRC, operator616 once produced a DC scan about a Shuma Gorath-like entity that was a threat to the metaverse.

Yeah, Metron referenced a 'metaverse' in a mini called Superman/The Next.

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Here's the scan:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16375522/1.jpg.html

@galan007:

i stated it in my original post:

Originally posted by operator616
defeated by 3 skyfathers in death of the new gods (though i find its canonicity questionable).

that aside, here's what dc defines the nature of the metaverse (the next #5) from the same mini you referenced:

http://i.imgur.com/VNXepBJ.jpg

@TheGodKiller:

the quantum metaverse was used to describe that all myths are in fact real, since all possible universes exist, im sure you've read it but im just posting it so the others might see it:

http://i.imgur.com/LiDgAUK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4RVAvPM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5jZ1DUM.jpg

also, in the recent deadpool killustrated miniseries marvel introduced the idea verse, it's a place where the ideas of the characters exist

deadpool killustrated #1, you'll also see a reference to the metaverse;

http://i.imgur.com/YAJp4wU.jpg

so now marvel has:

omniverse
ideaverse
megaverse
metaverse
multiverse

😂

good lord. and THAT is precisely the reason why i think it is ridiculous to take a stance (at times) on on-panel terminology. so many of the terms are interchangeable and open to subjective definition that the context really needs to be examined in full. going by the definition of a metaverse, perhaps the 2 trees are the SAME tree! 😂

Metaverse is interchangeable with omniverse for sure.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, Metron referenced a 'metaverse' in a mini called Superman/The Next.

[edit]
Here's the scan:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16375522/1.jpg.html

Ridiculous. In that same mini series, it was said DC also had an "Omniverse".

sneer

Originally posted by operator616
@galan007:

i stated it in my original post:

that aside, here's what dc defines the nature of the metaverse (the next #5) from the same mini you referenced:

http://i.imgur.com/VNXepBJ.jpg

@TheGodKiller:

the quantum metaverse was used to describe that all myths are in fact real, since all possible universes exist, im sure you've read it but im just posting it so the others might see it:

http://i.imgur.com/LiDgAUK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4RVAvPM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5jZ1DUM.jpg

also, in the recent deadpool killustrated miniseries marvel introduced the idea verse, it's a place where the ideas of the characters exist

deadpool killustrated #1, you'll also see a reference to the metaverse;

http://i.imgur.com/YAJp4wU.jpg

so now marvel has:

omniverse
ideaverse
megaverse
metaverse
multiverse

😂

Both companies have the same shit.

Yeah, DC has been referred to as a multiverse, megaverse, metaverse, and omniverse. Lmao.

Why can't either company just agree on one term to describe its totality..?

I still don't know what a megaverse is supposed to be, and why it's different

Opperator posted the scans of DC's definition of Metaverse (or Mega, always get it confused), and it seems to be larger than an Omniverse.

Operator?

I *think* a Megaverse is supposed to be the designation for a grouping of multiple multiverses.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Opperator posted the scans of DC's definition of Metaverse (or Mega, always get it confused), and it seems to be larger than an Omniverse.

Operator?

Megaverse=/=metaverse.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Opperator posted the scans of DC's definition of Metaverse (or Mega, always get it confused), and it seems to be larger than an Omniverse.

Operator?

no, nothing is bigger than the omniverse.

if you ask me, metaverse is closer to a megaverse.

marvel has specific definitions for those terms, to answer @branlor swift:

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that's what marvel's megaverse is (i posted this a while back)

LT's 2006 bio

http://i.imgur.com/TPSomFH.jpg?1

2005 handbook (both of them)

http://i.imgur.com/cldF2nP.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/5njhq1p.jpg?1

2007 handbook:

http://i.imgur.com/4GMWE1e.jpg?1

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in dc 52 #52, it is stated that there will be a dawn of something called the megaverse:

http://i.imgur.com/BbyvkDh.jpg