Originally posted by The Sorrow
Only thing you have convinced me of is that you don't read many comics, at least not many Marvel ones. Where has Wonder Woman fought at lightspeed? I would like to see that.We use full capacity yes but we don't ignore lower end showings either or act as though she fights like Batman and Flash in every fight because she doesn't. At all. Your calculations are great but mean nothing in a comicbook fight, and aren't necessary. You are pretty much dealing with gods here who are blessed with superspeed as standard, Hercules has reacted to blitzes from the Sentry while having his back turned and fighting someone else so he is far from slow. His top speed is undefined so I'm not sure where this imaginary ceiling you created that limits him to being slower than bullets has come from.
Again who has she MATCHED (not fought actually matched) that is stronger than Hulk? WWH was the only time Hulk has really outclassed Hercules, but the same can be said of Clark and Diana. When he really cuts loose she is nowhere near his strength level and the instance you brought up she passed out from one punch. Not a great example, hell he even broke her damn wrists. Hercules got up and took his licks like a man without fighting back, I'm not even a massive Herc fan but his damage soak has always been very impressive. While hers is impressive sometimes, others it is very suspect.
Talented wrestlers in MMA usually do beat guys who can outstrike them. Even Anderson Silva has problems with wrestlers and he is one of the most elusive fighters I've ever seen in the sport. Hercules is tough enough to withstand her punches and bring the fight into his realm if need be:
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(Above scan shows he clearly isn't slow either)
Skill is a wash really a lot of what Diana has done Herc likely has a similar kind of feat anyway. His more impressive damage soak, arguably greater strength and ability to neutralize her slight striking and speed edge with his style makes this a very close fight indeed. I used to sleep on Herc a lot but he is a beast and easily on Thor's level, he just doesn't have weather manip, a trans/skyfather level weapon at his beck and call or anywhere near as many appearances.
I didn't claim WW will fight here at lightspeed. If she did then she would be more than 1 million times the speed of Hercules. But she will indeed have her super speed and reflexes though and it would be significant more than his. So instead of a million we can say 100,000, 10,000, 1000, or even a very low 100 times faster than Hercules. Doesn't matter since any of those numbers have the same results.
What does full capacity mean? It means characters are at there standard levels or more (not under). It is accepted that Diana is faster than a bullet as a standard.
Hercules reacting to someone who has super speed doesn't mean he reacted to a super fast object. Characters often don't use their speed in comics. So reacting to them in those situations isn't proof of anything. Hercules has no super speed. Batman is faster than him.
The Superman example is a great one since he was amp and far far far above Hercules and she only got flash koed (not a forum win). Her face was not visible damaged at all. Going by that showing it would be hard to see Hercule damage her face or ko her after a few hits (assuming she let's him hit her).
The problem with MMA wrestling is that both fighters have nearly the same speed wrestling. Diana is so much faster than Hercules that he won't even get a chance to do any moves. She would simply beat him to the punch and out maneuver him. Also, its very hard to explain how he would even grab her when she is vastly faster.
