Originally posted by h1a8
Herc is not stronger or more durable than Diana. Not at all. I'm only entertaining the silly notion because it is moot anyway. Wrestling skills are irrelevant when someone is vastly faster and more agile than you. They would simply outmaneuver you (a slug). We use full capacity on a forum fight. Diana will have her speed and reflexes here. There is no writer here to turn them off.Experience is almost meaningless in a comic. Thor has thousands of years experience and CA is still far more skilled than him. Post Crisis WW has actually lived for more than a thousand years and in another arc has fought along Superman in a dimension for over a thousand years. WW is far more skilled than Hercules. There is no way you can read comics and think they have comparable skill. He fights like a C class fighter where WW is easily an A class martial artist. She is more skilled at kicking, parrying, countering, blocking, use of pressure points, etc. That's also a moot point since if someone is vastly faster with vastly better reflexes then skill is irrelevant (flash or quicksilver for example). LOL, there is no such thing as fighting dirty, everything fair in a fight.
WW has matched Superman (who is far more powerful than Hercules), DD, CM, Konvict, etc. and did well. She has taken hits from the best of them (more powerful than Hercules) without being koed. She has managed to seriously hurt or damage beings greater than Hercules too. She is mentioned and shown to be stronger than D.C. Hercules (who achieved the same trials of Marvel Hercules) and is considered the best chance to stop Superman if he ever went rogue. Batman has said that she is the best melee fighter in the world.
Being able to match beings like the Hulk and Thor on a regular basis is absolutely proof he is at least as strong as she is. He definitely handles a punch better than she does, even while mortal and at half-strength was able to take an extended beating from an angry Hulk. Wonder Woman has been damn near one-shotted by Superman, no high herald has ever done that to Herc afaik. You certainly won't see him being matched by metas at full strength, WW durability is up and down at the best of times.
Again you're only focusing on certain skills while ignoring the multitude of other factors in h2h. Her being a better martial artist is all well and good in theory but tbh she doesn't use it anywhere near as frequently as you seem to be implying. You seem to believe she is Batman, with Superman's physicality, I can assure you neither are true. Thor has held his own with Captain America in mortal form, yet has admitted on panel that Herc is better skilled in h2h than he. Just because they prefer to use brawn doesn't mean they aren't skilled melee fighters.
When has Wonder Woman matched Superman?
Hmmm ok so she does something EVERY hero including Herc does and occasionally punches above her weight class? Amazing. Diana has the natural speed/agility advantage plus the bracers so she would probably land more hits initially, but his wrestling and knowledge of submission holds would offset that, plus he has the damage soak/durability and likely strength edge.