Mjolnir VS GL Power Ring

Originally posted by Newjak
It was an example bro.

It's something common in comics. For instance there probably exists a comic where it is stated Kyle has infinite creativity.

Would you say a real life human being has or could have infinite creativity? Because Kyle could.

No, Kyle has the creativity of what his writers can come up with.

What would infinite creativity even mean?

Originally posted by curryman
No, Kyle has the creativity of what his writers can come up with.

Originally posted by Mindset
What would infinite creativity even mean?

Originally posted by Newjak
And all the writers have to do is say Kyle thought of something no other human being could because he has unlimited creativity. And therefore he now has more creativity then any other person alive.

Okay.

Until they do, let's say that his creativity's limited to what's actually shown.

Which is what I'm debating.

Phucking magnets, how do they work?

Originally posted by curryman
Okay.

Until they do, let's say that his creativity's limited to what's actually shown.

And honestly most of the people here brag about the different things they could do. I don't think most people here are really creative enough to use the ring half as well as Kyle, and definitely not even close to it.

Most people like to believe they can, you maybe the exception in that you maybe could, but most can't.

Originally posted by Newjak
That he can think of anything and everything. It's not any more absurd than infinite willpower.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
With a hammer, the practical uses are pretty pathetic in the real world. Hammer a nail, fly, create a storm.

With a GL ring: life-like women for sex, handjobs, blow jobs, constructs of any kind, flight, TK, etc.

I don't see the downside to having a ring.

😂

Do you have any idea how much poon we'd be rolling in if we were GLs? Skip the green sex dolls, bro.

Agreed on the rest. Being Thor would make you a bull in a china shop. I could save the planet or take out the garbage with my ring. WAY more practical uses.

So we're all agreed that Mjolnir is more powerful.

Just one aspect of what someone could do. The point is, the GL ring is much more practical in everyday use.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes it is.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Just one aspect of what someone could do. The point is, the GL ring is much more practical in everyday use.

Originally posted by Mindset
So we're all agreed that Mjolnir is more powerful.

Lock this thread Newjak.

Originally posted by Newjak
That's the point though there is that leway he get's as a comic book character you don't have. You have very real limits. Kyle doesn't. He can be as creative as needed. You're stuck.

And honestly most of the people here brag about the different things they could do. I don't think most people here are really creative enough to use the ring half as well as Kyle, and definitely not even close to it.

Most people like to believe they can, you maybe the exception in that you maybe could, but most can't.

Kyle isn't that creative.

Though I didn't bring him up as the epitome of un-creativity, I brought him up to show that you do not need to know how stuff works to create it, and as an example of someone who draws on his hobby to work the ring.

I gave you several examples of not only how the ring educates you, but how you can handle stuff way, way before the battle starts. It's not just creativity either. Here's how you do it.

You write yourself a checklist;

- Physical Damage
- Temperature extremes
- Electricity
- STDs
- Telepathy
- etc

You ask the ring "ring, help me deal with this shit."

You and your ring work out defenses against all of these. Auto-defenses.

Curry is right. John once set his ring up to auto defend if anyone in the area moved at a fast enough speed (mach 10?).

The ring has also shown the ability to genetically re-write a person. Hal and Kyle have both done it (Hal's was PC though). "Ring, give me the DNA of a Kryptonian and give me a quick sunbath" or subsitute Kryptonian for Martian. Permanent skill set acquired.

Originally posted by curryman
Kyle isn't that creative.

Though I didn't bring him up as the epitome of un-creativity, I brought him up to show that you do not need to know how stuff works to create it, and as an example of someone who draws on his hobby to work the ring.

I gave you several examples of not only how the ring educates you, but how you can handle stuff way, way before the battle starts. It's not just creativity either. Here's how you do it.

You write yourself a checklist;

- Physical Damage
- Temperature extremes
- Electricity
- STDs
- Telepathy
- etc

You ask the ring "ring, help me deal with this shit."

You and your ring work out defenses against all of these. Auto-defenses.

You do, pretending you don't ignores your limitations and the limitations of the ring itself.

The ring isn't a deux ex machina. Just because you want something to happen doesn't mean you can make it happen or that you can be creative enough to get it to work.

You could sit down and have any conversation you want with the ring it doesn't matter. You're still limited to your own mind and the ring's capabilities.

Where as with the Hammer most of those resistances and abilities are natural.

Originally posted by Newjak

Plus long life, the hammer can do all manner of things like open portals, control the elements, transmutate things, heal people, become invisible, bring people back to life.

The ring can and has done all of the above.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The ring can and has done all of the above.

Hal has also used transmutation, telepathy, time control, intangibility, tk etc.

Originally posted by curryman
No, Kyle has the creativity of what his writers can come up with.

I'm willing to concede people can be as creative as Kyle, but that is not the main point I am trying to make.

I get annoyed and agitated when people come on here and try to pretend they can do as well as a comic book character. Trying to pretend they can is self indulgence.

My reasoning is pretty simple. We are humans we are flawed. Using the Green Lanterns as an example. It's take a lot of different things to make a Green Lantern good. Not just creativity. I believe John once said he makes more powerful constructs because of his architect background because he knows how things work together better.

Hal has a bunch of willpower.

But not just that they also tend to be pretty well rounded in the other areas as well. They almost always have willpower, creativity, knowledge, heart, courage, focus all rolled into one.

Very few real life people in the entire world possess all of those traits together. And even fewer probably possess all of them in comic book levels.

I'll use myself as an example I'm an adaptive learner. I take what I know and can apply it to different situations but I'm terrible at staying focused. I did after all just spend the last half an hour arguing over a point I didn't really care about because I got side tracked easily.

You have character flaws everybody does. Comic book characters tend to have less flaws and have a lot more strengths than real people.

Odds are you have a few weaknesses that would prevent you from being a powerful Green Lantern somewhere somehow. Whether it's lack of creativity, lack of willpower, focus, imagination, adaptability, knowledge. It could be any number of things. Most people would be lucky to get the ring to do anything. Way fewer real life people would be able to get a shot off. About the only person I've met on this site that I think has a chance of being a half decent Green Lantern is Blair and even then I don't think he would be a planet busting Green Lantern.

It's takes a certain kind of person to be that good of a green lantern and you generally only find those types of people in fiction. Samething with Thor's hammer as well.