Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Well, a dozen h1s in a decade isn't as surprising as it seems on the surface.
Meh, tip of the iceberg imo. For every vocal person, there's another 10 secretly thinking they'd wreck everyone. Practicality doesn't always run high among the comic crowd, especially once you get away from the rigidity of KMC and its debate structure.
Originally posted by DigiI agree with this. I know a quite a few people here who would probably feel like they could weild a GL ring just as well as the comic book characters. Probably some with Thor's Hammer as well.
Meh, tip of the iceberg imo. For every vocal person, there's another 10 secretly thinking they'd wreck everyone. Practicality doesn't always run high among the comic crowd, especially once you get away from the rigidity of KMC and its debate structure.
Most people tend to think of themselves as the main characters in their lives and thus all the cool stuff should happen to them.
It's why most people picture themselves as the bad@$$ zombie killer of the apocalypse when odds are they would be killed with their first zombie encounter.
Originally posted by currymanNot really, imagination and creativity is a talent. Either you have it or you don't. You might be able to work around it to a degree but no I don't think everyone here would do as well as the comic book GLs. In fact I could see most of the people here finding something that works and continually using it over and over. Once again that's even if they could wield the items.
Performing is up for debate, but you can't deny that anyone here would do better when it comes to imagination.
Originally posted by Digi
Meh, tip of the iceberg imo. For every vocal person, there's another 10 secretly thinking they'd wreck everyone. Practicality doesn't always run high among the comic crowd, especially once you get away from the rigidity of KMC and its debate structure.
Originally posted by Newjak
Not really, imagination and creativity is a talent. Either you have it or you don't. You might be able to work around it to a degree but no I don't think everyone here would do as well as the comic book GLs. In fact I could see most of the people here finding something that works and continually using it over and over. Once again that's even if they could wield the items.
Sorry, you're just wrong here.
If you don't think people could do better than creating scissors and shields, then I what would they create? Johns, and almost every other writer since, has put the GLs on nothing but mundane everyday-items.
Please tell me what else people would be creating?
Don't you have to be fairly detailed with GL constructs? Like, I couldn't just will technology to happen, I'd have to understand how it works, right? I think that would severely limit a lot of people to boxing gloves and such.
Originally posted by Newjak
I agree with this. I know a quite a few people here who would probably feel like they could weild a GL ring just as well as the comic book characters. Probably some with Thor's Hammer as well.Most people tend to think of themselves as the main characters in their lives and thus all the cool stuff should happen to them.
It's why most people picture themselves as the bad@$$ zombie killer of the apocalypse when odds are they would be killed with their first zombie encounter.
I always preferred the ancillary characters. Less drama.
I couldn't wield Mjolnir. Not a chance.
I also know that, statistically, I'm probably wrong about the GL thing. Doesn't mean I'm definitely wrong, though, and the subjective nature of this particular debate means we'll never know. Someone would be amazing with a GL ring, we just can't really know who.
If I believed in heaven, this is in the top 5 of things I'd have God settle once I got there.
I'd die gloriously in a zombie apocalypse. And quickly, mind you, I have no delusions. But gloriously.
Originally posted by currymanMost people would resort to what they know.
Sorry, you're just wrong here.If you don't think people could do better than creating scissors and shields, then I what would they create? Johns, and almost every other writer since, has put the GLs on nothing but mundane everyday-items.
Please tell me what else people would be creating?
For instance if someone was a football player odds are they would use football related items and probably continue to use it. Other people might use musical instruments. The point is most people are going to resort to what they know because that's how their minds work. Not everyone is super creative enough to build a particle laser on the fly. Or come up with a super clever way to beat someone by using the rings in creative ways. In fact I would say most people are going to be pretty straight forward with how they use it.
Of all the people I have met on KMC I would say a handful are creative enough to use the ring the way you think they should.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerIt's probably more common than you think. Most people would feel if they came into contact with a super powered ring that they would be able to use it. Most people would at the very least try.
So, 10 vocal ones, and a hundred who have yet to come out of the closet? Out of the thousands(I am only guessing here) that have probably posted on the Comicbook Forums in the last decade or, those still aren't very surprising odds.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
So, 10 vocal ones, and a hundred who have yet to come out of the closet? Out of the thousands(I am only guessing here) that have probably posted on the Comicbook Forums in the last decade or, those still aren't very surprising odds.
Heh. You keep taking me so literally. The point was that there's a lot we don't see or hear about. 10 was clearly just a guess.
Originally posted by Newjak
It's probably more common than you think. Most people would feel if they came into contact with a super powered ring that they would be able to use it. Most people would at the very least try.
Originally posted by DigiNo I think most people tend to think of themselves as the main character in the world and therefore feel like they could do the really cool stuff.
Don't you have to be fairly detailed with GL constructs? Like, I couldn't just will technology to happen, I'd have to understand how it works, right? I think that would severely limit a lot of people to boxing gloves and such.I always preferred the ancillary characters. Less drama.
I couldn't wield Mjolnir. Not a chance.
I also know that, statistically, I'm probably wrong about the GL thing. Doesn't mean I'm definitely wrong, though, and the subjective nature of this particular debate means we'll never know. Someone would be amazing with a GL ring, we just can't really know who.
If I believed in heaven, this is in the top 5 of things I'd have God settle once I got there.
I'd die gloriously in a zombie apocalypse. And quickly, mind you, I have no delusions. But gloriously.
Oh yeah there is someone out there that could use it the ring properly but not a lot of people.
I see you know donning your Doctor costume or Thor costume and charging into the zombies to die a painful death 😛
Originally posted by Newjak
No I think most people tend to think of themselves as the main character in the world and therefore feel like they could do the really cool stuff.Oh yeah there is someone out there that could use it the ring properly but not a lot of people.
I see you know donning your Doctor costume or Thor costume and charging into the zombies to die a painful death 😛
Lol. That's actually somewhat accurate.
What people don't realize is that regardless of the type of zombie plan you have - or the cleverness and complexity - sheer numbers would kill most people. The living would be living by equal parts blind chance and reactive ability.
To that end, I'd simply try to enjoy it. Become a feral maniac roaming the streets at night or something. Not in costume though (although my Mjolnir is not the plastic one and could legitimately wreck things). I'd try to save lives and have fun. I'd undoubtedly die before too long, but it would be a hero's death, so I'd be ok with it.
Originally posted by Newjak
Most people would resort to what they know.For instance if someone was a football player odds are they would use football related items and probably continue to use it. Other people might use musical instruments. The point is most people are going to resort to what they know because that's how their minds work. Not everyone is super creative enough to build a particle laser on the fly. Or come up with a super clever way to beat someone by using the rings in creative ways. In fact I would say most people are going to be pretty straight forward with how they use it.
Of all the people I have met on KMC I would say a handful are creative enough to use the ring the way you think they should.
Thinking you can create it is enough.
The green lanterns don't have to know how things work in order to create them.
This road also leads nowhere for your mjolnir-argument, where you have to be even more creative to actually get something done. Where using your construct to support a falling building makes sense, using a giant whirlwind really does not. Who'd even try it?
Not to mention the fact that your own ring educates you, speeds up your perception, etc.
Originally posted by currymanSome of Thor's finer exotic powers need to be figured out but other times Thor just needs to want something and the hammer makes it happen.
Thinking you can create it is enough.The green lanterns don't have to know how things work in order to create them.
This road also leads nowhere for your mjolnir-argument, where you have to be even more creative to actually get something done. Where using your construct to support a falling building makes sense, using a giant whirlwind really does not. Who'd even try it?
Not to mention the fact that your own ring educates you, speeds up your perception, etc.
And most people wouldn't think to create them because their minds aren't creative enough to do so on the fly. Most people are going to resort to giant green fists, or cars, or planes. A lot of the creative stuff you're talking about them doing they wouldn't.
Originally posted by Newjak
Some of Thor's finer exotic powers need to be figured out but other times Thor just needs to want something and the hammer makes it happen.And most people wouldn't think to create them because their minds aren't creative enough to do so on the fly. Most people are going to resort to giant green fists, or cars, or planes. A lot of the creative stuff you're talking about them doing they wouldn't.
Okay, I realize that Joe Sixpack from Ohio wouldn't accomplish much at first, I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about people who have been reading these comics a hundred times.
You only need to think it at it happens. You have superhuman speed and then there's the fact that the ring educates you.
Not only does it detect weaknesses, scan stuff, work with your perception, it literally teaches you about its capabilities.
Originally posted by currymanEven if you have read every issue of GL it doesn't mean you can duplicate it. Remember the ring still has limits based on yourself. It isn't infinite.
Okay, I realize that Joe Sixpack from Ohio wouldn't accomplish much at first, I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about people who have been reading these comics a hundred times.You only need to think it at it happens. You have superhuman speed and then there's the fact that the ring educates you.
Not only does it detect weaknesses, scan stuff, work with your perception, it literally teaches you about its capabilities.
And most times even if you read every issue of GL you still wouldn't think or be good enough to use the ring in that way.