Thor vs Black adam

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So you pretty much just want to ignore the very clear amp that he had in power simply because Thor went above and beyond the regular? 😂

Ridiculous. Pr, can we have a mod ruling on this feat being valid please?

😂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So what? Thor's charged through a group made up of Bor, Skurge, the Enchanters, Majestron Zelia etc. Breaking out of a hold by Captain Marvel in comparison to that isn't only unimpressive, it's pathetic. A few weeks ago, Banner wasn't sure who was stronger between Hulk/Thor, and when it comes to strength, Billy might as well be the Colossus in comparison to the Hulk.

In terms of in-continuity it makes sense as Billy often holds back. In terms of what I know however Gail was under the assumption that Billy was weaker then Black Adam a stance she reached based on lack of knowledge.

Anytime you want to battle zone their strength/durability, let me know.

That's just banner being banner, he once claimed that out of every hero on earth Thing has the best chance of beating him and Hercules could stop WWH if he wanted to. Hulk is undeniably stronger than Thor and has been for decades. Billy isn't colossus compared to Hulk, that's just silly. What? You think Hulk is stronger than everybody in DC?

It wasn't suggested that he was stronger due to billy holding back. He was stated to have "all the powers of captain marvel and some more" and hitting harder than Cap. That matters little when it comes to on panel showings.

Haha. Is that your catchphrase now?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nobody is ignoring the amp. Just the hyperbolic comment.

😂

So Thor beat up a massively amped Ulik then?

Good thing we agree now. 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
They were all dead, rage. Were they even in their bodies? You think breaking Cap's hold when he was helped by Atom Smasher is pathetic? Lulz.

That's just banner being banner, he once claimed that out of every hero on earth Thing has the best chance of beating him and Hercules could stop WWH if he wanted to. Hulk is undeniably stronger than Thor and has been for decades. Billy isn't colossus compared to Hulk, that's just silly. What? You think Hulk is stronger than everybody in DC?

It wasn't suggested that he was stronger due to billy holding back. He was stated to have "all the powers of captain marvel and some more" and hitting harder than Cap. That matters little when it comes to on panel showings.

Haha. Is that your catchphrase now?

They definitely had bodies, yes. And Hela was being significantly amped by the Twilight Sword when she summoned her army, it wasn't the regular dead. In comparison to Thor's feat.

And Superman once said Martian Manhunter was flat out more powerful then him, shit happens. You are the one who brought up statements, not me. Not to mention that's not what Banner said about Hercules so I'd like to see the Thing scan, probably lying about that. Hulk himself has doubted his strength in comparison to Thor's and has flat out admitted that Thor has knocked him around.

Whatever you want, either way, Thor's feat is more impressive.

Originally posted by wolverinos
first of all you didnt post anything yet to even discuss it, however its not a safe net and not anything aside of the truth.
in all the dozens of years thor is on the market he got several high feats as far as fighting goes, and even those feats are mostly from 30 years ago so...

now thor has better durability feats than adam? i am sorry but being taken out by the U FOES, taken down twice by tutinax, and owned by hulk is <<< taking angry superman punches, defeating the JSA and half of Dc universe heroes while one shotting herald level beings.

black adam on average and most of his showings is just that bad ass, therefor bringing ww3 adam is actually nothing special in his career.
however thor is a different story, if you even bring his high end feats there are wayyyy too many other feats to contredict it.

you can barrage me with scans? nothing you will post as far as melee fighting will never top ww3 black adam.
and dont even try blood and thunder thor because he was seriously amped.

yeah thor fight dirty, like he got chocked out by hercules, like he got smashed by tutinax, by hulk, by U foes, by all the phoenix force 5 individually, if black adam will fight thor H2H thor wont survive for very long.

you could argue that thor might beat adam in an all out fight of all powers.
however claiming thor can defeat him in a physical fight? thats jus biased or lack of knowledge about black adam, or both.

Why are you pumping up an amped character in BA WWIII? We re talking about characters at their NORMAL levels. Again, the U Foes defeated a peer in Hulk, so what's your point other than to stall the debate?

Originally posted by wolverinos
you mean the sentry that asked thor to kill him and wasnt resisting but wishing he will get killed? yeah your knowledge is amazing.
why wont we ask hulk, tutinax,the u foes, wrecking crew, juggernaut atc atc what do they think of the hammer that failed to knock them out after multiple hits?

Wasn't resisting? Um, resisting or not, obviously the blast had enough to kill Sentry. Sentry still had his own durability. It's a great feat whether you want to admit it or not.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. When Ulik compared himself to Thor in strength on the very same page which Thor has confirmed in the past.

Show me anybody comparing themselves to be as strong as superman, getting amped and still getting beaten by him.

If you're trying to use h1a8 logic, be prepared to be mocked for it. Thor is billions of times stronger than Ulik, yes or no?

______ Superman. Stop inserting him into your posts. Acknowledge that Ulik was at least many times stronger than Thor or else you are LYING about what's stated and shown on panel. Do you observe any of the debating rules?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, to indicate that the feat shit on anything Adam did. Like I said, the feat is impressive but it doesn't have to mean what you think it does to be valid. What kind of ridiculous leap in logic is that?

So the Superman feat is valid but the Thor feat is not because Thor beating up Ulik invalidates it but Superman hurting Darkseid counts? Well, I'm not even going to bother arguing with those kind of double standards in place.

Black Adam one shot kills Thor. He's from DC and it makes look Superman look good so that's the clear conclusion.

If you want to discuss the Ulik feat or Thor vs. Black Adam in more detail, PM the time of the battle zone. I hope readers enjoyed this interesting look into the psyche of the Superman fan and how they process information.

Everything this cat writes is motivated by his Superman love. Everything.

You really needed to write four consecutive posts?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, look how Ulik who was "billions of times stronger" if we take his statement literally fares against UNLIMITED STRENGTH of Thor

Thor is STRONGEST one there ISSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!1

Nah, Thor is billion of times stronger than Ulik who is nearly as strong as him so he is billions of times stronger than himself too. Rage logic FTW.

LOL, do you think everyone in this thread is an idiot? You are taunting the notion that Ulik was billions of times stronger, a statement made by.....YOU!!!! Smile, you've successfully punked yourself.

Once again, you are looking proof in the face and spitting a lugy at it as with the Nova thread.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You really needed to write four consecutive posts?

They are responses to different points made by different posters. Is there something wrong with that?

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Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
They are responses to different points made by different posters. Is there something wrong with that?

You can use the "quickquote" button, which is beside the quote button. It saves us from having multiple posts by the same person.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't understand why you have such a hard time coming to grips with Thor having a high end combat feat far greater then what his average every day strength would indicate possible. Superman is not the only one who holds back to a ridiculous degree.

And in the scans you posted, Thor even directly comments on how mind staggeringly powerful Ulik is. Do you just want to discount any feat where Thor hits above his weight class?

Can we just get a mod ruling on whether or not this feat is valid?

you want me to rule on whether he was in fact a thousand times stronger?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I was.
Thor is as strong as adam and as durable or even better? Perhaps in your dreams.

I must have missed it, buried under all of the hostility then.

Durok was definitely not thousand times stronger 😐

But he was stronger, and if I'm not mixing up my incidents, he trounced Hercules right before that.

That would be asking a bit too much as it's open to interpretation. But based on my understanding of Abhil's earlier posts, he seemed to be under the impression that either Ulik was billion of times stronger or he wasn't stronger at all.

And in regards to showings, Thor's fights in Avengers Prime with Hela is far more impressive then what Adam has ever done. He was holding his own against Hela with the Twilight Sword which is pretty damn ridiculous. The Twilight Sword like usual was treated as a weapon of astounding power, able to warp the Nine Worlds into whatever it's wielder desired. Too bad Surtur only ever wants to burn shit. I'd be curious to see just how potent he could be if he didn't just want to destroy everything.

Originally posted by curryman
Durok was definitely not thousand times stronger 😐

But he was stronger, and if I'm not mixing up my incidents, he trounced Hercules right before that.

Not Durok, Ulik.

He did beat up Hercules but that was before the power up. Tbf, Hercules was going through confidence issues and it was crippling his effectiveness in combat.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not Durok, Ulik.

He did beat up Hercules but that was before the power up. Tbf, Hercules was going through confidence issues and it was crippling his effectiveness in combat.

lmao, no idea why I wrote durok.

Okay.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You can use the "quickquote" button, which is beside the quote button. It saves us from having multiple posts by the same person.

you want me to rule on whether he was in fact a thousand times stronger?

I must have missed it, buried under all of the hostility then.

Ulik's power began to fade after Thor had already defeated him. I don't understand the point of those scans?

I think him being amped is pretty much definite, tbh.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Okay.

Thank you.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, Loki powered up everyone on the Avenger's side in Asgard. He even powered up the good Avengers Initiative members far away from Asgard in the camp. I'm not making anything up, read the comics.

Did you even read Siege? Thor did receive a boost by the Norn Stones but it disappeared when Loki died. Fortunately, Thor performed even better still against the Void though he lost the power up.

Not sure if serious? Thor had a bloody nose at worst from the combined onslaught of the U-Foes, Iron Patriot, Sentry's attack, Magma etc. In contrast, a powered up Adam had half his face melted off by Martian Manhunter's heat vision if you want to lowball.

😂

Look at the little sock trying to get clever. Hickman =/= Bendis.

dude... the U foes were not powered up during the fight with thor.
it was not stated nor was it mentioned, stop making things, i have read some of your posts and i have noticed every single time someone brings up thor having a bad feat, you always come up with some made up explanation that either thor was depowered, or his enemy was amped... thats always the case in your arguments.
now i am going to play like this, provide me the evidence which show us that the U foes were amped by loki in that particular moment when they fought thor.

i am talking only about the moment he fought the U foes so stay on the subject.

what? again you are viewing comics with fanboy glasses? watch closely, you see them attacking thor and then thor is down on his knees, then osborn punch him and takes him down to the ground, then the u foes proceed to beat him up and people stating they are going to kill him.

sentry attack? dont be childish sentry just bashed into thor from the side and thor bfr him right away, trying to imply thor was depowered again because of that sentry attack? like i said earlier here comes the "thor was depowered" argument you love so much.

if i am sock you are a shoe, not very clever shoe if i may add.