Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You want to disregard high end showings but seem to know nothing about Thor besides his fights with Tutinax, U-Foes and the Hulk.Yes he does.
You keep talking about averages and obsessing over these showings. Tutinax never knocked out Thor not to mention he was using mental fear based attacks. Adam would do no better in such circumstances. He'd get beat up in Siege just the same as well.
Are you saying Superman is significantly stronger then the Hulk? 😐 Who by the way would wreck Adam when angry in hand to hand.
You don't get to lowball Thor and ignore his high end showings at the same time. Sorry. 🙁
It's not my fault Thor has dozens of feats way better then anything that Adam has done.
World War III Black Adam was amped by the external Power of Isis. During Blood and Thunder, Thor never received an external boost up until the Power Gem, everything before that counts.
Not that it matters, World War III wasn't even impressive. Adam was surviving purely by his ferocity and wasn't even stronger then Power Girl apparently.
Because Black Adam has never been overcome?
Not to mention Adam would fair no better in pretty much all those scenarios.
No, Thor would beat Adam in an all out fight.
Yes, he can.
i know plenty of thor, maybe not everything there is, but enough to know that his so called high end feats are like 1% of his entire career.
on average thor always gets his hands full with low - mid heralds.
whats wrong with talking about average showings? i believe this is the best way to judge a character.
if thor had some powers such as soul suck or any other powers that he demonstrated only 1 - 2 times.
i find it very offensive you bring those feats into a debate.
it has same relevance as if i bring some crazy powers PC Superman once had like sneezing a galaxy or his special vision that can destroy everything if needed, and then say well superman did that once so we cant dismiss that just because its a one time old showing.
thats how childish your arguments are when concerning thor powers.
tutinax never knocked out thor, but he defeated and humiliated him twice in a roll....
and again with your good old "thor was depowered argument".
please provide any evidence that thor during that fight was effected by any side powers from tutinax, and that anything aside of pure brawling was involved.
you just love your "thor was depowered" arguments dont you.
really? then please provide thors feats that are much better than adams as far as fighting feats.
all i have to do is mention his ww3 and fights vs superman , ripping the head of amazo while having a GL ring, and one shotting heralds... thats all i have to do, because thor in his dozens of years never done something to top or match those.
how am i lowballing thor when i only state the facts that his so called high end feats are a complete minority and therefor cannot be used as his average? on the other hand adam most of the time is portrayed as such a bad ass.
black adam was not amped by isis.
the only reason people believe him to be amped by her is because of Adam saying Isis to transform, which was after World War 3, in the next story arc Black Adam: The Dark Ages, and did so because he lost his powers during World War 3, thanks to Captain Marvel changing his password and was using Isis power to transform.
thor on the other hand was amped during most of his good feats in blood and thunder by having the freakin power gem powers.
you shitting me? adam during WW3 took out the jsa and plenty of heralds, adam during ww3 was just a more pissed adam than usual, thor could have never accomplish what adam did, only with amps.
of course black adam was defeated in his career, but thats a minority, usually he is a complete bad ass.
just him ripping amazo head while possessing the GL ring is >>>>> any physical fight thor had.
and again thats not the minority with adam unlike with thor.
nop, nobody agree with you about the subject, everyone who knows a thing or two already mentioned that in a physical fight black adam is beating up thor, only you think otherwise.
Are you blind or is you screen dim? Yeah, I agree with him completely. And Thor's high end feats are NOT 1% of his fights, that's the just the value you are applying to them in an effort to downplay him. Again, how do you explain his success vs Galactus about a year ago? And don't tell me it's a low showing for Galactus either. Ripping off AMAZO's head? He dude, I don't know if you read comics or not, but artificial intelligence/robot beings job! How many times have Vision and robot Airwalker been blown up just because? Geez...
You really don't have a wholistic argument. Thor is a good guy Rocky type hero with tons of appearances, BS is D.C.'s new badass villain with far fewer appearances. Do the math. And unlike D.C., it's not all about 24/7 hero worship at Marvel. ALL the most popular heroes at Marvel take loses fairly regularly. It's not taboo.
As far as Adam put a real mutha like Tutinax, Desak or Gorr on him and watch his little glass house crumble.
Originally posted by wolverinos
i know plenty of thor, maybe not everything there is, but enough to know that his so called high end feats are like 1% of his entire career.
on average thor always gets his hands full with low - mid heralds.whats wrong with talking about average showings? i believe this is the best way to judge a character.
if thor had some powers such as soul suck or any other powers that he demonstrated only 1 - 2 times.
i find it very offensive you bring those feats into a debate.
it has same relevance as if i bring some crazy powers PC Superman once had like sneezing a galaxy or his special vision that can destroy everything if needed, and then say well superman did that once so we cant dismiss that just because its a one time old showing.
thats how childish your arguments are when concerning thor powers.tutinax never knocked out thor, but he defeated and humiliated him twice in a roll....
and again with your good old "thor was depowered argument".
please provide any evidence that thor during that fight was effected by any side powers from tutinax, and that anything aside of pure brawling was involved.
you just love your "thor was depowered" arguments dont you.really? then please provide thors feats that are much better than adams as far as fighting feats.
all i have to do is mention his ww3 and fights vs superman , ripping the head of amazo while having a GL ring, and one shotting heralds... thats all i have to do, because thor in his dozens of years never done something to top or match those.how am i lowballing thor when i only state the facts that his so called high end feats are a complete minority and therefor cannot be used as his average? on the other hand adam most of the time is portrayed as such a bad ass.
black adam was not amped by isis.
the only reason people believe him to be amped by her is because of Adam saying Isis to transform, which was after World War 3, in the next story arc Black Adam: The Dark Ages, and did so because he lost his powers during World War 3, thanks to Captain Marvel changing his password and was using Isis power to transform.thor on the other hand was amped during most of his good feats in blood and thunder by having the freakin power gem powers.
you shitting me? adam during WW3 took out the jsa and plenty of heralds, adam during ww3 was just a more pissed adam than usual, thor could have never accomplish what adam did, only with amps.
of course black adam was defeated in his career, but thats a minority, usually he is a complete bad ass.
just him ripping amazo head while possessing the GL ring is >>>>> any physical fight thor had.
and again thats not the minority with adam unlike with thor.nop, nobody agree with you about the subject, everyone who knows a thing or two already mentioned that in a physical fight black adam is beating up thor, only you think otherwise.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
LOL, do you think everyone in this thread is an idiot? You are taunting the notion that Ulik was billions of times stronger, a statement made by.....YOU!!!! Smile, you've successfully punked yourself.Once again, you are looking proof in the face and spitting a lugy at it as with the Nova thread.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You can use the "quickquote" button, which is beside the quote button. It saves us from having multiple posts by the same person.you want me to rule on whether he was in fact a thousand times stronger?
I must have missed it, buried under all of the hostility then.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That would be asking a bit too much as it's open to interpretation. But based on my understanding of Abhil's earlier posts, he seemed to be under the impression that either Ulik was billion of times stronger or he wasn't stronger at all.And in regards to showings, Thor's fights in Avengers Prime with Hela is far more impressive then what Adam has ever done. He was holding his own against Hela with the Twilight Sword which is pretty damn ridiculous. The Twilight Sword like usual was treated as a weapon of astounding power, able to warp the Nine Worlds into whatever it's wielder desired. Too bad Surtur only ever wants to burn shit. I'd be curious to see just how potent he could be if he didn't just want to destroy everything.
Originally posted by Spire
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHe was amped but not enough to overpower Thor. Some cars>>>Amped Ulik.
So Thor beat up a massively amped Ulik then?Good thing we agree now. 👆
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They definitely had bodies, yes. And Hela was being significantly amped by the Twilight Sword when she summoned her army, it wasn't the regular dead.Hela having twilight somehow means the dead had bodies?
In comparison to Thor's feat.Wasn't that the fight where Enchantress saved his life after Hela stomped him?
And Superman once said Martian Manhunter was flat out more powerful then him, shit happens.In a story written to just wank Manjobber. Thor flat out said to Hulk in his own event that he can't beat Hulk and never could. Can you imagine that happening in OWAW?
You are the one who brought up statements, not me.Statements that are supported by actions on panel.
Not to mention that's not what Banner said about Hercules so I'd like to see the Thing scan, probably lying about that.The statement was something like this "You could've stopped me if you wanted to" or some shit. I would find that Thing scan.
Hulk himself has doubted his strength in comparison to Thor's and has flat out admitted that Thor has knocked him around.Scan? Knocking somebody around doesn't mean shit.
Whatever you want, either way, Thor's feat is more impressive.Not at all.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Are you blind or is you screen dim? Yeah, I agree with him completely. And Thor's high end feats are NOT 1% of his fights, that's the just the value you are applying to them in an effort to downplay him. Again, how do you explain his success vs Galactus about a year ago? And don't tell me it's a low showing for Galactus either. Ripping off AMAZO's head? He dude, I don't know if you read comics or not, but artificial intelligence/robot beings job! How many times have Vision and robot Airwalker been blown up just because? Geez...You really don't have a wholistic argument. Thor is a good guy Rocky type hero with tons of appearances, BS is D.C.'s new badass villain with far fewer appearances. Do the math. And unlike D.C., it's not all about 24/7 hero worship at Marvel. ALL the most popular heroes at Marvel take loses fairly regularly. It's not taboo.
As far as Adam put a real mutha like Tutinax, Desak or Gorr on him and watch his little glass house crumble.
are you rages girlfriend or something? i have a discussion with someone why are you shoving your nose in?
its a fact thors high end feats are the complete minority, his average and complete majority of feats portray him trading blows for days vs low - mid heralds and not being able to win, his most common way of winning is using his powers, thats what puts him in the high herald category.
however just in brawling he never proved himself to be any higher than guys like Herc or gladiator, he is under average hulk in physical fighting ,which is impressive but... not enough for someone like adam.
are you dense? you want to tell me it is not a low showing for galactus to get hurt by thor like that? odin while amping himself was knocked out by colliding into galactus, you want to tell me thor can suppress an amped odin?
amazo jobbed? and your proof to that is because he is a robot? jeez is your density contagious? its amazo with the GL ring getting his head ripped off and the best you can come up with is jobbing? based on what? adam doing stuff like that thruought his entire career.
read some comics which you clearly havent touched.
so just because thor is a good guy its suppose to mean what exactly? i dont understand what are you trying to say, you make no sense.
yes marvel heroes and DC heroes and every heroes take some losses.
however there is a way a certain character is portrayed hero or no hero, and thor is portrayed in the way i explained already.
and you are trying to contredict the way he is portrayed by saying "well its because he is the hero"? what? dude...
what? adam defeating JSA and a good roster of DC heroes is more impressive than any of those.
not to mention adam one shotting and killing heralds with a punch.
Originally posted by wolverinos
are you rages girlfriend or something? i have a discussion with someone why are you shoving your nose in?
If you don't want to have people discussing on a discussion forums, take it to PMs nothing more simple. Also, I'd refrain on the name calling if I were you. Thank you in advance.
Talk like you've got some adult maturity and I'll continue the discussion.
Originally posted by wolverinos
are you rages girlfriend or something? i have a discussion with someone why are you shoving your nose in?its a fact thors high end feats are the complete minority, his average and complete majority of feats portray him trading blows for days vs low - mid heralds and not being able to win, his most common way of winning is using his powers, thats what puts him in the high herald category.
however just in brawling he never proved himself to be any higher than guys like Herc or gladiator, he is under average hulk in physical fighting ,which is impressive but... not enough for someone like adam.are you dense? you want to tell me it is not a low showing for galactus to get hurt by thor like that? odin while amping himself was knocked out by colliding into galactus, you want to tell me thor can suppress an amped odin?
amazo jobbed? and your proof to that is because he is a robot? jeez is your density contagious? its amazo with the GL ring getting his head ripped off and the best you can come up with is jobbing? based on what? adam doing stuff like that thruought his entire career.
read some comics which you clearly havent touched.so just because thor is a good guy its suppose to mean what exactly? i dont understand what are you trying to say, you make no sense.
yes marvel heroes and DC heroes and every heroes take some losses.
however there is a way a certain character is portrayed hero or no hero, and thor is portrayed in the way i explained already.
and you are trying to contredict the way he is portrayed by saying "well its because he is the hero"? what? dude...what? adam defeating JSA and a good roster of DC heroes is more impressive than any of those.
not to mention adam one shotting and killing heralds with a punch.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Calm ureself.. Ure hate is showing again.
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http://s603.photobucket.com/user/Spire84/media/lolpinnedagain2.jpg.html
Now just make excuses now.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's what this scan showshttp://s603.photobucket.com/user/Spire84/media/lolpinnedagain2.jpg.html
Now just make excuses now.
One might wonder why Mjolnir didn't automatically return to Thor's hand.
Originally posted by wolverinos
the majority disagree with him whats wrong with that?
What's wrong with that is you said no one agree with him. Plenty have and since your response, another person entered the thread and said Thor would win a majority.
And let's get something straight right now. You CAN'T offend me, you don't have the talent. I'll continue to post as I see fit regardless of your opinion on anything.
As far as the topic of this debate, you have chosen not to response to certain points, such as the fact that WWIII Adam was amped in the example you keep trying to pimp. Apparently YOU have nothing else to say, so peace out.
