Thor vs Black adam

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's the thing, he wasn't just a thousand times stronger according to him. [b]He was getting stronger a thousand fold with each passing moment. That means he was 1000x1000x1000x1000x1000 times stronger if it was only five second he was talking to Thor, much less in the time Thor actually started fighting him. Ulik would've been billions upon billions of times stronger if we take that boast literally. Are you sure you want to claim that?

Also why would we assume he was 4 times more powerful if he wasn't billions of times stronger? Seeing how Thor kicked his ass as always. Is Thor now 4 times as strong as Ulik?

He broke him in half.

Holding back. When he cut loose, he was a peer of a heavily amped Infinity Man in strength. I am going to randomly claim that since IM annihilated Orion's whole body in one blast and matched Scott Free with ALE, he was 4 times as strong as usual. Prove me wrong. [/B]

You're assuming Ulik was amped billions of times? You can go with that if you want, I have absolutely no problem with Thor owning such a being. Why do you think Thor's showing being ridiculously good instead of great invalidates it? And why do you think that makes it inapplicable as evidence to compare Thor to Black Adam?

You have no problem claiming that Superman one shot Universal death (Still need to double check that claim btw). Are you banking on me conceding because I'm not in the habit of being ridiculous in my stances as you are?

I'm treating power = strength for Ulik as he's just a brick btw.

So the Darkseid feat is valid for Superman? Iyo Superman destroyed Darkseid when he was thousands of times more durable (Ignoring the fact he was pretty much an entity beyond the physical and broke like glass)?

It was pretty clear they were peers. What are you even talking about?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're assuming Ulik was amped billions of times? You can go with that if you want, I have absolutely no problem with Thor owning such a being. Why do you think Thor's showing being ridiculously good instead of great invalidates it? And why do you think that makes it inapplicable as evidence to compare Thor to Black Adam?

You have no problem claiming that Superman one shot Universal death (Still need to double check that claim btw). Are you banking on me conceding because I'm not in the habit of being ridiculous in my stances as you are?

I'm treating power = strength for Ulik as he's just a brick btw.

So the Darkseid feat is valid for Superman? Iyo Superman destroyed Darkseid when he was thousands of times more durable (Ignoring the fact he was pretty much an entity beyond the physical and broke like glass)?

It was pretty clear they were peers. What are you even talking about?

Because he showed he was stronger than Power Girl at 1/3 of his strength, that's acceptable when you see how he has bashed Power Girl previously with no problems. You are suggesting that Thor was stronger than Ulik who was billions of times stronger as per his words when previously Thor himself has conceded that Ulik is his equal in strength and which was again mentioned in the same page all of a sudden? Do you lose all common sense when it comes to Thor?

Go check the comic if you don't believe it. I'm not going to claim Superman is more powerful than 100000 AMPED daxamites because he oneshotted the same probe who slaughtered all those daxamites. That's stupid even though it happened where yours is just a statement with nothing to back it up.

Why are you comparing Superman's feats to Thor's? Darkseid tanked Source/ALE's attacks without any scratch just before that. If he was that fragile he should've been annihilated. What did this Ulik do? Toss some cars?

I'm talking about when Superman went toe to toe with an AMPED Infinity Man who even at normal level is stronger than orion.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha. You are such a thorbag. So now Thor is billions of times stronger than Ulik and himself too? A simple yes or no would be suffice.

Because he showed he was stronger than Power Girl at 1/3 of his strength, that's acceptable when you see how he has bashed Power Girl previously with no problems. You are suggesting that Thor was stronger than Ulik who was billions of times stronger as per his words when previously Thor himself has conceded that Ulik is his equal in strength and which was again mentioned in the same page all of a sudden? Do you lose all common sense when it comes to Thor?

Go check the comic if you don't believe it. I'm not going to claim Superman is more powerful than 100000 AMPED daxamites because he oneshotted the same probe who slaughtered all those daxamites. That's stupid even though it happened where yours is just a statement with nothing to back it up.

Why are you comparing Superman's feats to Thor's? Darkseid tanked Source/ALE's attacks without any scratch just before that. If he was that fragile he should've been annihilated. What did this Ulik do? Toss some cars?

I'm talking about when Superman went toe to toe with an AMPED Infinity Man who even at normal level is stronger than orion.

I didn't say Thor was billions of times stronger then Ulik, you brought this up. Don't put words in my mouth. However, if you think accepting such a ridiculous stance is the only way to validate the feat then go ahead.

I'll summarize my stance very simply: Thor owned Ulik who was noticeably amped in power (To what degree is up to how you interpret the scan however) and is a demonstration of combat ability far stronger then any Adam has shown. This does not mean that Thor was billions of times stronger then Ulik and their is a huge leap between the two.

Yet you have no problem with constantly bringing up the Probe owning the Daxamites as evidence of their prowess.

So Superman's feat is perfectly valid and Thor's isn't? You're totally shameless about your hypocrisy. It's astounding.

It's been explained to you many times what DoTNG indicates, you know my stance very well so I'm not going to get side tracked by Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I didn't say Thor was billions of times stronger then Ulik, you brought this up. Don't put words in my mouth. However, if you think accepting such a ridiculous stance is the only way to validate the feat then go ahead.

I'll summarize my stance very simply: Thor owned Ulik who was noticeably amped in power (To what degree is up to how you interpret the scan however) and is a demonstration of combat ability far stronger then any Adam has shown. This does not mean that Thor was billions of times stronger then Ulik and their is a huge leap between the two.

Yet you have no problem with constantly bringing up the Probe owning the Daxamites as evidence of their prowess.

So Superman's feat is perfectly valid and Thor's isn't? You're totally shameless about your hypocrisy. It's astounding.

It's been explained to you many times what DoTNG indicates, you know my stance very well so I'm not going to get side tracked by Superman.

That would be better than what adam did if we have an actual confirmation about how much he was amped. We don't. Why not? You're the one who was trying to use that statement literally. Now its not literal?

Did I ever claimed that Superman would own Thor because he owned a probe that killed 100000 daxamites? The probe has that feat and however retarded it is, it still happened.

Superman broke a character in half who no sold the attack of the supreme being of DC. I don't care how much it chafes you that it shits on anything Thor has done, its not a statement which was contradicted by the actions.

By whom? You? You are the guy who brought up Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You claimed that Thor beat Ulik who was a thousand times stronger. That was close to billions times, now the statement doesn't mean what it said? Flip-flopping much?

That would be better than what adam did if we have an actual confirmation about how much he was amped. We don't. Why not? You're the one who was trying to use that statement literally. Now its not literal?

Did I ever claimed that Superman would own Thor because he owned a probe that killed 100000 daxamites? The probe has that feat and however retarded it is, it still happened.

Superman broke a character in half who no sold the attack of the supreme being of DC. I don't care how much it chafes you that it shits on anything Thor has done, its not a statement which was contradicted by the actions.

By whom? You? You are the guy who brought up Superman.

Yes, to indicate that the feat shit on anything Adam did. Like I said, the feat is impressive but it doesn't have to mean what you think it does to be valid. What kind of ridiculous leap in logic is that?

So the Superman feat is valid but the Thor feat is not because Thor beating up Ulik invalidates it but Superman hurting Darkseid counts? Well, I'm not even going to bother arguing with those kind of double standards in place.

Black Adam one shot kills Thor. He's from DC and it makes look Superman look good so that's the clear conclusion.

If you want to discuss the Ulik feat or Thor vs. Black Adam in more detail, PM the time of the battle zone. I hope readers enjoyed this interesting look into the psyche of the Superman fan and how they process information.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, to indicate that the feat shit on anything Adam did. Like I said, the feat is impressive but it doesn't have to mean what you think it does to be valid. What kind of ridiculous leap in logic is that?

So the Superman feat is valid but the Thor feat is not because Thor beating up Ulik invalidates it but Superman hurting Darkseid counts? Well, I'm not even going to bother arguing with those kind of double standards in place.

Black Adam one shot kills Thor. He's from DC and it makes look Superman look good so that's the clear conclusion.

If you want to discuss the Ulik feat or Thor vs. Black Adam in more detail, PM the time of the battle zone. I hope readers enjoyed this interesting look into the psyche of the Superman fan and how they process information.

One is all statement and nothing to prove it. One is backed up by actions on panel. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Also I'm not going to say that Superman tears Thor in half with his pinkie based on this feat, don't worry.

Now you're just being a petulant child throwing a tantrum.

There is nothing to discuss about it. It was a hyperbolic claim which means little.

I hope they enjoyed your tantrum more.

"Waah, waah. Me no like superman feat. You am double standard, Balck Adam kills tHOR. Waah, waah".

😂 this thread has turned into a lowball fest for characters not even in the thread, this is a new low

Abhi, stop being a ****.

Seriously, if this is what passes for polite where you come from, I have to wonder where the **** that is.

Guys, guys, guys stop being ridiculous.

Clearly even though Ulik was given a magical plot device that amped his strength by a huge degree and we even saw him grow in size to indicate the increase, it doesn't count and was merely hyperbolic boasting:

We should just discount everything Thor's ever done as hyperbolic boasting. Frankly, I vote for Thor to be low meta. I mean, what feats does he really have that are valid as far as Abhil, the feat officer is concerned?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Abhi, stop being a ****.

Seriously, if this is what passes for polite where you come from, I have to wonder where the **** that is.

uhuh

Originally posted by abhilegend
I was being sarcastic. Just came from posting on ICT. It will take time to adjust and be polite again.

uhuh

"Again" implies that you were before.

My apologies, let's get back on topic.

Thor wins. As strong or so close that it doesn't really matter and while I don't think he's as invulnerable in the same sense as Adam in terms of hard durability, he's just as durable in all respects that will count in this fight. Perhaps even greater. Mjolnir and Thor's superior power is just too much of an advantage, even greater than Adam's speed advantage.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Guys, guys, guys stop being ridiculous.

Clearly even though Ulik was given a magical plot device that amped his strength by a huge degree and we even saw him grow in size to indicate the increase, it doesn't count and was merely hyperbolic boasting:

We should just discount everything Thor's ever done as hyperbolic boasting. Frankly, I vote for Thor to be low meta. I mean, what feats does he really have that are valid as far as Abhil, the feat officer is concerned?

I don't understand why you have such a hard time coming to grips with Thor having a high end combat feat far greater then what his average every day strength would indicate possible. Superman is not the only one who holds back to a ridiculous degree.

And in the scans you posted, Thor even directly comments on how mind staggeringly powerful Ulik is. Do you just want to discount any feat where Thor hits above his weight class?

Can we just get a mod ruling on whether or not this feat is valid?

Originally posted by -Pr-
"Again" implies that you were before.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
My apologies, let's get back on topic.

Thor wins. As strong or so close that it doesn't really matter and while I don't think he's as invulnerable in the same sense as Adam in terms of hard durability, he's just as durable in all respects that will count in this fight. Perhaps even greater. Mjolnir and Thor's superior power is just too much of an advantage, even greater than Adam's speed advantage.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I was.
Thor is as strong as adam and as durable or even better? Perhaps in your dreams.

Strength is pretty much a wash. I don't think Thor having an edge in energy durability is unreasonable.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't understand why you have such a hard time coming to grips with Thor having a high end combat feat far greater then what his average every day strength would indicate possible. Superman is not the only one who holds back to a ridiculous degree.

And in the scans you posted, Thor even directly comments on how mind staggeringly powerful Ulik is. Do you just want to discount any feat where Thor hits above his weight class?

Can we just get a mod ruling on whether or not this feat is valid?

Why don't you understand that Ulik's amp was to an unknown degree other than that hyperbolic comment and Thor kicking his ass like always when he gets pissed doesn't portray him as even as strong as Thor in the first place. If that comment is taken out of consideration which is what happens to hyperboles, Ulik doesn't even looks as strong as Thor even with that amp. He did better against Thor without that amp two times.

Yeah, Ulik was powerful. Just how powerful? Certainly not a billion times, thousand times or even twice as powerful as usual.

What, you don't want to agree that Thor was a billion times stronger there? I thought you were a Thor fan. Guess not.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Strength is pretty much a wash. I don't think Thor having an edge in energy durability is unreasonable.

Nope. Adam is all around a better physical character.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor holds back his strength to a billionth fraction of his strength? Wow, mighty indeed!!

Why don't you understand that Ulik's amp was to an unknown degree other than that hyperbolic comment and Thor kicking his ass like always when he gets pissed doesn't portray him as even as strong as Thor in the first place. If that comment is taken out of consideration which is what happens to hyperboles, Ulik doesn't even looks as strong as Thor even with that amp. He did better against Thor without that amp two times.

Yeah, Ulik was powerful. Just how powerful? Certainly not a billion times, thousand times or even twice as powerful as usual.

What, you don't want to agree that Thor was a billion times stronger there? I thought you were a Thor fan. Guess not.

So you pretty much just want to ignore the very clear amp that he had in power simply because Thor went above and beyond the regular? 😂

Ridiculous. Pr, can we have a mod ruling on this feat being valid please?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Adam once shrugged off Captain Marvel restraining him with help and was stated to be even stronger than Cap when he fought Superman. I don't see Thor being as strong as Cap let alone being stated to be stronger than him.

Nope. Adam is all around a better physical character.

So what? Thor's charged through a group made up of Bor, Skurge, the Enchanters, Majestron Zelia etc. Breaking out of a hold by Captain Marvel in comparison to that isn't only unimpressive, it's pathetic. A few weeks ago, Banner wasn't sure who was stronger between Hulk/Thor, and when it comes to strength, Billy might as well be the Colossus in comparison to the Hulk.

In terms of in-continuity it makes sense as Billy often holds back. In terms of what I know however Gail was under the assumption that Billy was weaker then Black Adam a stance she reached based on lack of knowledge.

Anytime you want to battle zone their strength/durability, let me know.