Thor vs Black adam

Started by wolverinos21 pages
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How does Hickman writing PIS make it any less dumber? Of course at some point Captain America and the other heroes were powered up by Norn Stones from Loki so it's not necessarily PIS.

ha? everybody were powered up by norm stones? what? why wasnt thor powered up by them? anyway you are making plots that werent even there.
its amazing, when ever you are backed to the corner you make up things that didnt happen and hope someone will bite into it.
no one was powered by anything, U foes owned thor to the point he looked like a rape victim, then nick fury and cap beat their ass end of story.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What the f*ck are you even talking about now? So because Thor beat up Ulik, it automatically invalidates the feat? So because someone claims they are much stronger then Superman and gets beat up, like say, Darkseid, that means the feat doesn't count? Why must you throw out all semblance of logic constantly to the point that the only possible outcomes involves mods or battle zones?

I thought you didn't want to battle zone me, but now you're down for Superman vs. Thor (Who isn't even in this thread btw)? So it wasn't me that stopped you, it was your position based on this new challenge? Why do you keep denying that you lack any confidence in your original claim and keep saying stuff like this?

If you're going to troll me, make it more obvious so I don't have to spend time replying to you with actual facts. I have a hard time telling the difference because of how outlandish your claims usually are.


Yes. When Ulik compared himself to Thor in strength on the very same page which Thor has confirmed in the past.

Show me anybody comparing themselves to be as strong as superman, getting amped and still getting beaten by him.

If you're trying to use h1a8 logic, be prepared to be mocked for it. Thor is billions of times stronger than Ulik, yes or no?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Thor missing a throw will cause him to lose his hammer. Do you hear that rage?

I know I shouldn't respond to anything you say because it's all trolling, but that is just too much.

"a good rock" had me

odin and the dwarves didn't need to waste all that effort when the key to victory was just laying about all along

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. When Ulik compared himself to Thor in strength on the very same page which Thor has confirmed in the past.

Show me anybody comparing themselves to be as strong as superman, getting amped and still getting beaten by him.

If you're trying to use h1a8 logic, be prepared to be mocked for it. Thor is billions of times stronger than Ulik, yes or no?

I'm not you, I'm not insane. Thor however demonstrated far above standard Top Tier capabilities and as far as combat showings go, it's far superior to anything Adam has ever done. Which is why I mentioned and posted the feat. You don't like it? Tough. You can call PIS if you want but the feat doesn't become invalid by any means.

So you weren't arguing a few days ago on ICT that Superman smashed through an incredibly amped Darkseid? Alright then, noted and I'll remind you of this thread later.

Originally posted by wolverinos
ha? everybody were powered up by norm stones? what? why wasnt thor powered up by them? anyway you are making plots that werent even there.
its amazing, when ever you are backed to the corner you make up things that didnt happen and hope someone will bite into it.
no one was powered by anything, U foes owned thor to the point he looked like a rape victim, then nick fury and cap beat their ass end of story.

Yes, Loki powered up everyone on the Avenger's side in Asgard. He even powered up the good Avengers Initiative members far away from Asgard in the camp. I'm not making anything up, read the comics.

Did you even read Siege? Thor did receive a boost by the Norn Stones but it disappeared when Loki died. Fortunately, Thor performed even better still against the Void though he lost the power up.

Not sure if serious? Thor had a bloody nose at worst from the combined onslaught of the U-Foes, Iron Patriot, Sentry's attack, Magma etc. In contrast, a powered up Adam had half his face melted off by Martian Manhunter's heat vision if you want to lowball.

Originally posted by wolverinos
and later on nick fury and captain america owned them, and it was written by the same writer.
cry me some about PIS

😂

Look at the little sock trying to get clever. Hickman =/= Bendis.

MM can give BA a run for his money 131

Originally posted by wolverinos
first of all you didnt post anything yet to even discuss it, however its not a safe net and not anything aside of the truth.
in all the dozens of years thor is on the market he got several high feats as far as fighting goes, and even those feats are mostly from 30 years ago so...

You want to disregard high end showings but seem to know nothing about Thor besides his fights with Tutinax, U-Foes and the Hulk.

Originally posted by wolverinos
now thor has better durability feats than adam? i am sorry but being taken out by the U FOES, taken down twice by tutinax, and owned by hulk is <<< taking angry superman punches, defeating the JSA and half of Dc universe heroes while one shotting herald level beings.

Yes he does.

You keep talking about averages and obsessing over these showings. Tutinax never knocked out Thor not to mention he was using mental fear based attacks. Adam would do no better in such circumstances. He'd get beat up in Siege just the same as well.

Are you saying Superman is significantly stronger then the Hulk? 😐 Who by the way would wreck Adam when angry in hand to hand.

Originally posted by wolverinos
black adam on average and most of his showings is just that bad ass, therefor bringing ww3 adam is actually nothing special in his career.
however thor is a different story, if you even bring his high end feats there are wayyyy too many other feats to contredict it.

You don't get to lowball Thor and ignore his high end showings at the same time. Sorry. 🙁

It's not my fault Thor has dozens of feats way better then anything that Adam has done.

Originally posted by wolverinos
you can barrage me with scans? nothing you will post as far as melee fighting will never top ww3 black adam.
and dont even try blood and thunder thor because he was seriously amped.

World War III Black Adam was amped by the external Power of Isis. During Blood and Thunder, Thor never received an external boost up until the Power Gem, everything before that counts.

Not that it matters, World War III wasn't even impressive. Adam was surviving purely by his ferocity and wasn't even stronger then Power Girl apparently.

Originally posted by wolverinos
yeah thor fight dirty, like he got chocked out by hercules, like he got smashed by tutinax, by hulk, by U foes, by all the phoenix force 5 individually, if black adam will fight thor H2H thor wont survive for very long.

Because Black Adam has never been overcome?

Not to mention Adam would fair no better in pretty much all those scenarios.

Originally posted by wolverinos
you could argue that thor might beat adam in an all out fight of all powers.
however claiming thor can defeat him in a physical fight? thats jus biased or lack of knowledge about black adam, or both.

No, Thor would beat Adam in an all out fight.

Yes, he can.

Remember that time BA got stomped by a bunch of powerless nerds with guns? Good times.

Notice that this entire discussion, the only time I've ever brought up a less then favorable showing for Adam was John's heat vision despite being constantly barraged with bullshit.

Pretty good restraint for my part I think. Although I understand why it's necessarily to focus on Thor's poor performances (Although none mentioned so far are actually bad) because the moment you try to compare good showings, Thor completely shits over Adam.

It's a shameless but somewhat effective strategy. Making me focus on correcting the bad so I can't mudstomp the opposing side with the actual evidence. Or you can just ignore feats like Abhil does.

The way both characters fight with CIS on, Thor for a slight majority on average (I fully agree with Rage here); Adam tends not to hold back...Thor does...thats the only reason Thor for a slight majority on average.

But (and once again I agree with Rage on this), if Thor is unloading and not holding back the heavy attacks, then he'll brutally punish Adam and the fight wont last that long...

On average, Thor 6/10...
Enraged, not holding back, Thor 10/10...

10/10 is a bit much IMHO.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
10/10 is a bit much IMHO.

I dont think so...

The Thor I describe here (which is pretty much Blood and Thunder Thor sans the Power Gem) beat the crap out of Surfer and Warlock together, and then proceeded to thrash the Infinity Watch...

I honestly believe non-holding back Thor beats BA 10/10...

Cool.

Tbf, Adam has a lot of team trashing showings. But a lot of them just amounts to him scattering the JSA and Alan Scott trying to go melee for some weird reason until they talk sense to him.

Nothing comparable to easily dropping people like Drax with the Gem or Surfer like cheap hookers.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Tbf, Adam has a lot of team trashing showings. But a lot of them just amounts to him scattering the JSA and Alan Scott trying to go melee for some weird reason until they talk sense to him.

Nothing comparable to easily dropping people like Drax with the Gem or Surfer like cheap hookers.

Precisely...

Thor did more than just scatter the Infinity Watch, he forced them to flee...

He forced Warlock and Surfer to flee...

Thor was going to kill them all if they didnt remove themselves from his presence...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Tbf, Adam has a lot of team trashing showings. But a lot of them just amounts to him scattering the JSA and Alan Scott trying to go melee for some weird reason until they talk sense to him.

Nothing comparable to easily dropping people like Drax with the Gem or Surfer like cheap hookers.

How effectively did they fight Thor? Did they use versatility to try and take him down?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not you
Obviously.
I'm not insane.
👆
Thor however demonstrated far above standard Top Tier capabilities and as far as combat showings go, it's far superior to anything Adam has ever done.
Based on boasting? Haha.
Which is why I mentioned and posted the feat. You don't like it? Tough. You can call PIS if you want but the feat doesn't become invalid by any means.
So Thor is billions of times stronger than ulik going by that showing. Yes or no?

So you weren't arguing a few days ago on ICT that Superman smashed through an incredibly amped Darkseid?
Darkseid wasn't noted as strong as Superman there.
Alright then, noted and I'll remind you of this thread later.
Lulz.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Obviously. 👆 Based on boasting? Haha. So Thor is billions of times stronger than ulik going by that showing. Yes or no?

Darkseid wasn't noted as strong as Superman there. Lulz.

What does boasting mean? How does it change the fact that Ulik claimed he was amped thousands of times in power? Even if his strength went up only by a factor of like 4, that's still better then anything Adam has ever done.

So as far as your concerned, Superman didn't destroy a Darkseid many times more durable? And for the record, Superman was portrayed as a peer of Orion in that comic.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Pretty good restraint for my part I think. Although I understand why it's necessarily to focus on Thor's poor performances (Although none mentioned so far are actually bad) because the moment you try to compare good showings, Thor completely shits over Adam.

Yeah, I actually have enjoyed the discussion so far, even if it is pretty loopsided considering that the claims Abhi is throwing are quite far fetched.

Keep the good work 👆

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What does boasting mean? How does it change the fact that Ulik claimed he was amped thousands of times in power? Even if his strength went up only by a factor of like 4, that's still better then anything Adam has ever done.

So as far as your concerned, Superman didn't destroy a Darkseid many times more durable? And for the record, Superman was portrayed as a peer of Orion in that comic.


That's the thing, he wasn't just a thousand times stronger according to him. He was getting stronger a thousand fold with each passing moment. That means he was 1000x1000x1000x1000x1000 times stronger if it was only five second he was talking to Thor, much less in the time Thor actually started fighting him. Ulik would've been billions upon billions of times stronger if we take that boast literally. Are you sure you want to claim that?

Also why would we assume he was 4 times more powerful if he wasn't billions of times stronger? Seeing how Thor kicked his ass as always. Is Thor now 4 times as strong as Ulik?

He broke him in half.

Holding back. When he cut loose, he was a peer of a heavily amped Infinity Man in strength. I am going to randomly claim that since IM annihilated Orion's whole body in one blast and matched Scott Free with ALE, he was 4 times as strong as usual. Prove me wrong.