I have the solution to the petty arguments in this thread. How about the people acting up get warned/banned then I close the thread and declare a winner?
Just to be clear, any more nonsense after this post will result in a warning, at the least. If anybody replies to my post it will be considering arguing with a mod and they will be warned.
Originally posted by Spire
Walk away.
No, explain the purpose of your scans? Was it just to lowball or do you have an actual point to make?
Originally posted by Spire
Mjolnir doesn't return if knocked from his hand.
Has before. As a matter of fact, it's returned on occasions when it's been completely separated from him.
This is a very silly argument to make. Comics constantly ignore powers for the sense of dramatic tension. If Thor gets hit with an energy blast instead of absorbing it, does that mean he no longer possesses energy absorption? If Superman does his best and can't outrun bullets, does this mean he's nowhere near light speed?
You can argue that Mjolnir didn't return to Thor's hand in that comic but declaring that it doesn't is like arguing Superman doesn't have any super speed because I post a panel of him getting hit.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was amped but not enough to overpower Thor. Some cars>>>Amped Ulik.👆
Hela having twilight somehow means the dead had bodies? Wasn't that the fight where Enchantress saved his life after Hela stomped him?
In a story written to just wank Manjobber. Thor flat out said to Hulk in his own event that he can't beat Hulk and never could. Can you imagine that happening in OWAW? Statements that are supported by actions on panel. The statement was something like this "You could've stopped me if you wanted to" or some shit. I would find that Thing scan. Scan? Knocking somebody around doesn't mean shit.
Not at all.
Exactly. Ulik is a pretty strong dude and despite being massively amped, he was beaten up by Thor. This is downright the most ridiculous argument I've seen in awhile, trying to deny the feat solely because it's above Thor's average. Now because Thor was trapped by some wreckage (After just going ham on Ulik), is evidence of something? This is the kind of shit that gets you in trouble with mods, why you constantly do it is beyond me.
Of course the dead had bodies, we saw them physically interacting with stuff. She even specifically summoned Bor to try and break Mjolnir's enchantment. Their power was not in question.
Hela stabbed Thor in the stomach when he was without Mjolnir but he held his own twice.
No, it wasn't. Banner said Hercules was one of the only beings on the planet with a prayer of stopping Green Scar. Not a vote of confidence by any means. Find the Thing scan, yes.
Battle zone their feats then?
Originally posted by wolverinos
dude... the U foes were not powered up during the fight with thor.
it was not stated nor was it mentioned, stop making things, i have read some of your posts and i have noticed every single time someone brings up thor having a bad feat, you always come up with some made up explanation that either thor was depowered, or his enemy was amped... thats always the case in your arguments.
now i am going to play like this, provide me the evidence which show us that the U foes were amped by loki in that particular moment when they fought thor.i am talking only about the moment he fought the U foes so stay on the subject.
what? again you are viewing comics with fanboy glasses? watch closely, you see them attacking thor and then thor is down on his knees, then osborn punch him and takes him down to the ground, then the u foes proceed to beat him up and people stating they are going to kill him.
sentry attack? dont be childish sentry just bashed into thor from the side and thor bfr him right away, trying to imply thor was depowered again because of that sentry attack? like i said earlier here comes the "thor was depowered" argument you love so much.
if i am sock you are a shoe, not very clever shoe if i may add.
The Hood specifically powered up all his goons with the Norn Stones and it was brought up across different issues:
We even saw him being able to take away that power:
The lead up specifically said that they had to strike Thor with everything they had right away if they had any chance and that included the Sentry. And Sentry didn't just tackle Thor, we saw him punching him and shit from other angles. His job was to do his best to take out Thor. Just because it didn't destroy the planet their were on doesn't mean it's any less relevant.
facepalm Read Siege please, Thor was hit hard and fast by a coordinated assault and Thor needing some time to recover was a point. He went into battle anyway after Daken attacked him however.
Originally posted by wolverinos
i know plenty of thor, maybe not everything there is, but enough to know that his so called high end feats are like 1% of his entire career.
on average thor always gets his hands full with low - mid heralds.whats wrong with talking about average showings? i believe this is the best way to judge a character.
if thor had some powers such as soul suck or any other powers that he demonstrated only 1 - 2 times.
i find it very offensive you bring those feats into a debate.
it has same relevance as if i bring some crazy powers PC Superman once had like sneezing a galaxy or his special vision that can destroy everything if needed, and then say well superman did that once so we cant dismiss that just because its a one time old showing.
thats how childish your arguments are when concerning thor powers.tutinax never knocked out thor, but he defeated and humiliated him twice in a roll....
and again with your good old "thor was depowered argument".
please provide any evidence that thor during that fight was effected by any side powers from tutinax, and that anything aside of pure brawling was involved.
you just love your "thor was depowered" arguments dont you.really? then please provide thors feats that are much better than adams as far as fighting feats.
all i have to do is mention his ww3 and fights vs superman , ripping the head of amazo while having a GL ring, and one shotting heralds... thats all i have to do, because thor in his dozens of years never done something to top or match those.how am i lowballing thor when i only state the facts that his so called high end feats are a complete minority and therefor cannot be used as his average? on the other hand adam most of the time is portrayed as such a bad ass.
black adam was not amped by isis.
the only reason people believe him to be amped by her is because of Adam saying Isis to transform, which was after World War 3, in the next story arc Black Adam: The Dark Ages, and did so because he lost his powers during World War 3, thanks to Captain Marvel changing his password and was using Isis power to transform.thor on the other hand was amped during most of his good feats in blood and thunder by having the freakin power gem powers.
you shitting me? adam during WW3 took out the jsa and plenty of heralds, adam during ww3 was just a more pissed adam than usual, thor could have never accomplish what adam did, only with amps.
of course black adam was defeated in his career, but thats a minority, usually he is a complete bad ass.
just him ripping amazo head while possessing the GL ring is >>>>> any physical fight thor had.
and again thats not the minority with adam unlike with thor.nop, nobody agree with you about the subject, everyone who knows a thing or two already mentioned that in a physical fight black adam is beating up thor, only you think otherwise.
Alright, I'm not going to bother anymore with this debate except clarifying facts.
Adam specifically had the power of Isis added to that of his own gods in World War III. If anyone is able to, post a scan, too lazy to dl shit just to get it.
Tutinax was using innate mental fear powers while he fought Thor:
I'm not sure if that's the first we've ever heard of them but whatever. Thor was taking on a being with crippling fear powers on top of being incredibly powerful and was still holding his own. Characters have been rendered incapable of even fighting back in the past in similar situations.
Black Adam ripping the head off of an unnamed Amazo is cool, but not conclusive evidence of anything due to the fluctuating nature of the robot but whatever, Thor's hurt everyone from Galactus to Surtur to Odin to an Eternity level Demorgorge. He one shot killed Angrir, a massively amped Ulik, tear through a resurrected Skurge etc. Just recently he went toe to toe with Angrir/Nul which shits on fighting Superman until he gets serious. We also saw him take on Hela with the Twilight Sword, Glory, a Surtur capable of destroying the Multiverse which is even more impressive.
All feats far more impressive then anything Adam has done, and all within recent years. 👆
Not to mention Tutinax had innate fear powers all of a sudden. That alone makes the fight a good showing for Thor. Mental attacks, especially ones that attack the confidence and make you hesitate have rendered characters unable to fight back much less stand a chance. But it's Thor, so whatever, f*ck common sense.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, explain the purpose of your scans? Was it just to lowball or do you have an actual point to make?Has before. As a matter of fact, it's returned on occasions when it's been completely separated from him.
This is a very silly argument to make. Comics constantly ignore powers for the sense of dramatic tension. If Thor gets hit with an energy blast instead of absorbing it, does that mean he no longer possesses energy absorption? If Superman does his best and can't outrun bullets, does this mean he's nowhere near light speed?
You can argue that Mjolnir didn't return to Thor's hand in that comic but declaring that it doesn't is like arguing Superman doesn't have any super speed because I post a panel of him getting hit.
Would you say Superman has edge on Thor strength?
Now, couple things before you start lying and crying or whatever it is that you do(can't remember its been awhile, but i do remember you being rather insane) I'm just talking about ballpark figure here and I'm not looking for a debate on the subject. Just simply saying Superman on average or perhaps this day or that day or trying really hard... whatever. So again, would you say Superman has an edge in strength on Thor?
Originally posted by Spire
Would you say Superman has edge on Thor strength?Now, couple things before you start lying and crying or whatever it is that you do(can't remember its been awhile, but i do remember you being rather insane) I'm just talking about ballpark figure here and I'm not looking for a debate on the subject. Just simply saying Superman on average or perhaps this day or that day or trying really hard... whatever. So again, would you say Superman has an edge in strength on Thor?
Once more, what was the point of your scans? Was it posted for absolutely no reason other then to illicit a reaction?
Bada has already made it clear that there will be no nonsense so I'm not going to bother getting into Superman as it's irrelevant or reply to that comment about me. But have fun with the warning. 👆
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
mhmm
Originally posted by Spire
Would you say Superman has edge on Thor strength?Now, couple things before you start lying and crying or whatever it is that you do(can't remember its been awhile, but i do remember you being rather insane) I'm just talking about ballpark figure here and I'm not looking for a debate on the subject. Just simply saying Superman on average or perhaps this day or that day or trying really hard... whatever. So again, would you say Superman has an edge in strength on Thor?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Again, what was the point of your scans? Was it merely to illicit reactions or to lowball?Bada has already made it clear that there will be no nonsense so I'm not going to bother getting into Superman (Again) or reply to that comment about me.
So, as I suspected.
Would you say Superman has an edge on Thor in strength? In general or what ever.
Originally posted by Spire
Answer the question and you will find out. You wouldn't dodge a third time now would you?
Who's dodging? We were specifically told to cut the bullshit on this very page. I don't want to get any warnings.
You want to know what I think of Superman/Thor in terms of strength? Bump another thread, this isn't rocket science.
