Originally posted by Branlor SwiftI didn't specify the time Thor would be without it. He would lose it at least for a moment though. Which could prove devastating.
Last I seen in this thread was when h1 said Thor would lose his hammer if he missed a hammer throw...Somehow the thread got worse from then on... I don't know what's going on tbh, but I know for a fact that Black Adam ruins Thor's day.
Originally posted by curryman
The evidence that the Hood powered up his people?...Check the siege intro where they fight Volstagg and Thor 607...
No? Let me illustrate.
Thor has 1000 HP and needs to lose 800 to go down.
Sentry deals 50 damage.
U-Foes deal 750 damage.
Their attack would not have taken down Thor without Sentry attacking first.
I also think I'll be the one determining what I think and believe, but thank you for your input.
It doesn't need to.
It set him up for the attack from U-Foes/Osborn/lil.
On the fact that Sentry attacked him.
Being depowered means that he does not have access to all of his powers.
It's not the same as being hurt/set up for an attack.
The evidence that he was attacked - down on the ground ?
You basically repeated your one post 5 times over here...
If you want me to reply again, quote my post properly like I'm doing here. It's not hard.
My patience with this guy expired a while ago. Talking to him is a waste of time because all he does is repeat what he said initially even when new facts are in place or if his claims are proven wrong. The WIII BA debate was settle year agos.
Originally posted by curryman
The evidence that the Hood powered up his people?...Check the siege intro where they fight Volstagg and Thor 607...
No? Let me illustrate.
Thor has 1000 HP and needs to lose 800 to go down.
Sentry deals 50 damage.
U-Foes deal 750 damage.
Their attack would not have taken down Thor without Sentry attacking first.
I also think I'll be the one determining what I think and believe, but thank you for your input.
It doesn't need to.
It set him up for the attack from U-Foes/Osborn/lil.
On the fact that Sentry attacked him.
Being depowered means that he does not have access to all of his powers.
It's not the same as being hurt/set up for an attack.
The evidence that he was attacked - down on the ground ?
You basically repeated your one post 5 times over here...
If you want me to reply again, quote my post properly like I'm doing here. It's not hard.
again show me an evidence that the u foes were powered up during the period of time they were fighting thor.
there was no statement nor any mention they had any power up during their fight with thor, nor was it stated earlier.
this is not a video game, things are much more simple, you said if i believe the U foes took him down that means i must believe sentry with a tackle was able to injure him badly enough to be injured while facing them.
which leads us to the fact you believe a tackle from sentry suppose to be close to all the power they released on thor.
your logic is very flawed because it would work if it was an eating contest where sentry took a bite worth of 50, then the u foes ate the other 750, however thor after that tackle recovered and was perfectly fine, it was never stated he was injured or hurt,when you get hit it doesnt take some amount from your imaginary life bar.
your logic can only be applied to video games where every character has a life bar.
based on what? why do you believe they could not take thor down if sentry didnt tackle him? was it stated that thor was injured after sentry tackled him? was it showed? no? then.... i think at this point you are just trolling.
it didnt set him up for anything, after he bfr sentry he is standing face 2 face with the u foes in a perfect condition.
so the fact sentry tackled thor leads us to believe thor was injured? if you get hit does it mean automatically you are injured? if i hit you in the arm and you have to fight someone after that, does that mean you are injured and you are now less than before? give me a break.
thor shrugged that tackle off perfectly fine and was not hurt after the attack.
being depowered means he is not at full power as simple as that, dont try to make new definitions like you were trying to make with the tier list and got owned.
i repeat myself because you cant comprehend what i say, you address my answers with same point over and over again, therefor i am giving you same answer , not too complicated.
Originally posted by curryman
Okay, I'm being trolled.Ignore-time.
These socks can't possibly last that long.
so basically when you cant deflect the claims and you see that you have been wrong along the road, you go with the "troll" tactic? ironic since you are the one trolling this thread because you dont like the fact someone came up against your beloved thor.
Originally posted by wolverinos
that is not an evidence that can prove the U FOES were powered up by same power during their battle with thor.
as we see when ever the goons are powered by the stones it is stated.
basically you show me different people being powered up at a different time by a specific power, and then you are trying to apply it to this argument? doesnt work that way.
show me the U foes being powered up by said power and during that fight.again you are comming at me with this "thor was depowered excuse? you are basically claiming that just because sentry tackled thor it made thor weaker? again you with your speculations? was it stated thor was hurt from that tackle? no...
and if you believe that 1 tackle from sentry is enough to make thor weaker than thor is even weaker than i thought.Lol she said they have to give everything they had but if you notice not everybody were attacking thor , then you see thor on his knees and normal punching him and everybody beat the crap out of him, after that thor is lying all bloody and beaten, only to have captain america and nick fury comming and beating all the U foes.... i think thor needs some training and a better durability.
I just posted a scan pointing out that Hood's goons were not only powered up during Siege, but before it. Not every scene has the entire gang in it but it doesn't really matter. And if there was any doubt that the U-Foes were part of his gang:
Also another mention of the Norn Stone power-up:
I'm not saying Thor was depowered. I'm said the combined assault from Osborn's group weakened him to a point. And yes, if Sentry charges at Thor with everything he has, it will most definitely weaken him. Sentry's an elite Top Tier easy. 😐
What? Everyone on that field blasted Thor:
Not even going to be bother responding to such gibberish. Read Siege, everyone on the field blasted Thor and the entire assault gave him a bloody nose.
Originally posted by wolverinos
adam was not powered by isis during WW3, he asked her to transform after WW3, during the WW3 events he was just a pissed adam thats all.
if you believe black adam was amped by any means during WW3 present the evidence to that.i dont get it why were you trying to prove here? those scans clearly show us that thor was not effected by his powers.
tutinax clearly states that his powers work that way that his enemies are in fear of him and being helpless, it was clearly not the case with thor and thor even stated that he doesnt fear him, therefor the powers didnt work.
fear powers cannot work at 50% or 30%, they either work or not, thor is either was scared or wasnt scared, and the answer is thor wasnt scared.
therefor there was no effect on thor from those so called fear powers.
but of course you love your "thor is depowered" argument so much...i also would like to see an evidence tutinax actually has some powers that make his enemies fear him, because as far as we can know from this scan, he could have not refer to any specific powers, but just point out that he is overall so frightening and looks scary that his enemies are scared to fight him thats all.
unnamed amazo? look who is lowballing Lol.
adam ripping off the head of amazo with the GL ring ... come on we both know if thor had such showing you would make a huge poster out of it and hang it on your wall above the bed.thor hurted galactus? PIS.
hurted odin? when? you mean when he hits his father and odin falls on his bum bum? and after that treats thor like a step child?
on top of those there are 100000 showings where guys like hulk leave him in blood to gurglea massive amped ulik? it was never established to what degree he was amped.
he got owned by the phoenix 5 individually.
rulk and thing caused more damage and did better than him.
gladiator did better than him.
Nul? ARE YOU JOKING ME? Nul was a complete loser average hulk is more powerful than nul.
Lol at Nul being more impressive than superman.really? as i said all i got to do is just show black adam wrecking teams of heralds and the JSA and its > thor showings.
besides that we are talking about thor vs black adam in a physical confrontation, why do you bring his overall fights? that only means you agree with me that physically black adam dominates thor, and now you passed into another battlefield of thor using all his powers vs adam, thats fine i still believe adam to win but that only proves you already know in a physical fight thor is going down hard.
He had the power of seven Gods during World War III, not just the usual six as Isis was added to his might. Further confirmed by Mary when she had his power.
What? Tutinax points out his powers specifically because they are effecting Thor. That's why he says, it's not a fair fight.
Actually I wouldn't. We saw Thor no-selling an Amazo with a Green Lantern Ring, Despero etc. during JLA/Avengers when he tosses Superman the hammer and I never bring it up. Also, yes, he hurt Odin.
You don't get to call high end showings PIS and bring up Black Adam scattering the JSA. Anyways Thor's hurt everyone from Galactus to Surtur to Odin to an Eternity level Demorgorge. He one shot killed Angrir, a massively amped Ulik, tear through a resurrected Skurge etc. Just recently he went toe to toe with Angrir/Nul which shits on fighting Superman until he gets serious. We also saw him take on Hela with the Twilight Sword, Glory a pantheon of Skyfathers, a Surtur capable of destroying the Multiverse which is even more impressive etc. all within the last few years. Taking on the JSA is nothing compared to that.
Black Adam was at a disadvantage against Captain Nazi. Hawkman with a Green Lantern mace was beating up on him etc. I can dig and come up with plenty of bullshit to lowball.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was amped, but to what degree? Do you have an answer for that? Um, yes? Thor wasn't able to lift some cars in the same fight with Ulik. That's just pathetic. What? Why is arguing Thor was trapped by some cars would get me in trouble? Are you that insecure when it comes to Thor?That's not proof. We've seen dead people in these death dimensions interacting with normal beings when they travel there. Did he do that? Of course it is. Are you arguing that normal Thor>>>>Odinforce Thor now?
That's not how I remember it going. IIRC Enchantress saved him.
That's more than what was said about sentry. I'm trying. Its an old issue.
Nothing conclusive, whatsoever? You think that's Hulk doubting his strength? He also said that he almost cleaned Thor's clock the last time they fought in Infinity Crusade.
Hahaha.
Massively and that's all we need to know to conclude it shits on anything Adam has done. Actually, Thor specifically turned mortal before he could shrug off the debris and when he regains the hammer he does just that but don't let things like evidence stop you:
I told you that Hela was able to summon such entities specifically because she was powered up and we saw Thor physically interacting with them:
Not to mention she summoned Bor because she thought he had a chance to break the enchantment on Mjolnir when she herself could not:
Now post some evidence hinting that they were weakened like zombies or something. No he's not but it's a high end showing greater then anything Adam did.
They had three different fights, do you want me to post them all or something? No, it was outright said Sentry was the only one who could stop Green Scar.
Here:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk10.jpg
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWhere was massively amped said or hinted at?
Massively and that's all we need to know to conclude it shits on anything Adam has done.
Actually, Thor specifically turned mortal before he could shrug off the debris and when he regains the hammer he does just that but don't let things like evidence stop you:Thor had a full minute to shrug off the debris and he strained to do it and failed. Thor using an energy blast to loose the debris and then tossing them off means what exactly?
I told you that Hela was able to summon such entities specifically because she was powered up and we saw Thor physically interacting with them:Hela can summon beings who are dead and are in her realm any time she wants. Physically interacting means they were in their original bodies?
Not to mention she summoned Bor because she thought he had a chance to break the enchantment on Mjolnir when she herself could not:Which he failed to do and that proves he didn't have his powers.
Now post some evidence hinting that they were weakened like zombies or something.They were just souls of dead, not actual beings with their powers.
No he's not but it's a high end showing greater then anything Adam did.Nope.
They had three different fights, do you want me to post them all or something? No, it was outright said Sentry was the only one who could stop Green Scar.That's why statements like banner doubting who is stronger are invalid. Hulk IS strongest one there is.......................in marvel.
Here:Thor claiming that he's stronger than hulk? Hahahaha.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk10.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where was massively amped said or hinted at? Thor had a full minute to shrug off the debris and he strained to do it and failed. Thor using an energy blast to loose the debris and then tossing them off means what exactly?Hela can summon beings who are dead and are in her realm any time she wants. Physically interacting means they were in their original bodies?
Which he failed to do and that proves he didn't have his powers.
They were just souls of dead, not actual beings with their powers. Nope.
That's why statements like banner doubting who is stronger are invalid. Hulk IS strongest one there is.......................in marvel.
Thor claiming that he's stronger than hulk? Hahahaha.
😐 Ulik was massively amped by Loki's mystical amulet, I posted the scan. Thor gathered his strength to shrug off the debris. He never tried and failed. I wish I was the type of poster who reported people for lying, would probably make debates easier. 🙁
Where did Thor use an energy blast? Transformation's during the Eric Masterson era were accompanied by a bright light, nothing more as far as I recall.
Do you have any evidence to the contrary? This wasn't even regular Hela but a significantly amped Hela who could warp reality. I've posted sufficient evidence, I'm not going to reply to any more points you make about this subject unless you do.
Not sure if joking or not? Hela specifically summoned Bor for his power. He's not powerful enough to break the enchantment anyways imho but Bor stopped because Hela lied and Thor is alive.
And Hulk doubting his own strength against Thor. You brought up Superman's comment about Black Adam, this is definitely more impressive.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThe same scan according to which Ulik would be billions of times stronger? Pass.
😐 Ulik was massively amped by Loki's mystical amulet, I posted the scan.
Thor gathered his strength to shrug off the debris.And that energy blast was there for no reason, right?
He never tried and failed.Hahaha. One minute straining isn't trying?
I wish I was the type of poster who reported people for lying, would probably make debates easier. 🙁Really? You ARE insecure about Thor.
Where did Thor use an energy blast? Transformation's during the Eric Masterson era were accompanied by a bright light, nothing more as far as I recall.Where the energy is crackling and loosing the debris.
Do you have any evidence to the contrary? This wasn't even regular Hela but a significantly amped Hela who could warp reality.And that means what exactly? She has summoned souls of the dead many times and they have interacted with living. Doesn't mean they were alive or at full power.
I've posted sufficient evidence, I'm not going to reply to any more points you make about this subject unless you do.Hahaha.
Not sure if joking or not? Hela specifically summoned Bor for his power. He's not powerful enough to break the enchantment anyways imho but Bor stopped because Hela lied and Thor is alive.Bor is Odin's father and when alive he would've lifted mjolnir by that virtue alone. How does summoning Bor to accomplish something which he failed to do proves something here?
And Hulk doubting his own strength against Thor.Becuse he failed to lift mjolnir? Surely you don't think it was a fair comparison since Hulk didn't knew about the spell.
You brought up Superman's comment about Black Adam, this is definitely more impressive.That was simple comparison. You are once again showing why you are a thorbag. Hulk doubting himself because he couldn't lift mjolnir is an indication of Thor being stronger than Hulk?
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😐 Ulik was massively amped by Loki's mystical amulet, I posted the scan.
He also started to beat up on an amped Ulik in Iron Man/Thor. At first he was caught unaware by Ulik's new found strength, but Thor quickly turned the tables when he stopped messing around.
