Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ummm...I dont "think" they are Mid Heralds; KMC does as per the tierings here (which I specifically stated in the thread we are talking about)...you really should think about what you say before speaking! 💃Pray tell; how does Mags beat Jack of Hearts?
Magneto has numerous of ways. Lets not pretend Magneto is only about controlling metal. Also, based off fts, Magneto is more powerful.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ok...Jack of Hearts has the star recharging feat along with a good showing against Depowered Tyrant...
What do the others have to compare?
You know I have a soft spot for good ol' Jack. I mean he gets no respect but he IS a legit herald level character : FTL travel speed, able to survive in a vacuum, got that "computer mind", energy projection enough to repower a dying star, etc...
I'm giving it to Jack (but I'm obviously biased toward him and proud!).
PS His Zero Fluid Energy WRECKED the Marvel Zombies and he was able to use it to reverse the zombification process. Phuck you Magneto!
Originally posted by carver9
Magneto has numerous of ways. Lets not pretend Magneto is only about controlling metal. Also, based off fts, Magneto is more powerful.
Bullcrap...
JoH has recharged a star...
And Mags has?
JoH was actually affecting Tyrant with his attacks (albeit he had no chance whatsoever of actually beating Tyrant)...
And Mags has?
I fully doubt that Mags highs are on par with JoH's highs...
Originally posted by zopzop
Go LoM go! 🙂You know I have a soft spot for good ol' Jack. I mean he gets no respect but he IS a legit herald level character : FTL travel speed, able to survive in a vacuum, got that "computer mind", energy projection enough to repower a dying star, etc...
I'm giving it to Jack (but I'm obviously biased toward him and proud!).
PS His Zero Fluid Energy WRECKED the Marvel Zombies and he was able to use it to reverse the zombification process. Phuck you Magneto!
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@Carver
What does Mags have to counter this?
@Curryman
Gany's weapon was made specifically to harm Tyrant; that had nothing to do with her actual power level...
And JoH did outperform Terrax against Tyrant...
None of them belong in the High Herald tier of course, but the above is factual...
And I really doubt any of the characters you mentioned could do what JoH has proven capable of nor would Ultron or Nimrod be able to make Tyrant flinch like JoH did...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
👆@Carver
What does Mags have to counter this?
Lol...I guess Hulk is light speed as well since he blitzed the hell out of JOH...to the point that he couldn't react.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Stats/SavageHulkLeap11214.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I guess Hulk is light speed as well since he blitzed the hell out of JOH...to the point that he couldn't react.http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Stats/SavageHulkLeap11214.jpg.html
Great, so you have nothing from MAGNETO thats greater than JoH best...
Thanks for the concession!
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Bullcrap...JoH has recharged a star...
And Mags has?
JoH was actually affecting Tyrant with his attacks (albeit he had no chance whatsoever of actually beating Tyrant)...
And Mags has?
I fully doubt that Mags highs are on par with JoH's highs...
Magneto has taken on teams...consistently.
Lol...what does affecting Tyrant have to do with this match. JOH isn't busting through Magneto shields anytime soon, if at all.
JOH highs sucks. Magneto shields withstood attacks from Galactus and he has defeated Jean who was possessed by the Phoenix.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@CurrymanGany's weapon was made specifically to harm Tyrant; that had nothing to do with her actual power level...
And JoH did outperform Terrax against Tyrant...
None of them belong in the High Herald tier of course, but the above is factual...
And I really doubt any of the characters you mentioned could do what JoH has proven capable of nor would Ultron or Nimrod be able to make Tyrant flinch like JoH did...
No one sans Thanos was able to affect Tyrant the way Jack of Hearts did.
Therein lies the problem of basing his placement off of that one fight. Unless Jack ranges above a good part of the marvel mid/high herald category, which he obviously does not.
Hawkman's one hammer-blow did more damage to Despero's face than any of the other league and society guys. He is still not in the high herald category.
The characters I mentioned have legit wins against characters higher up, that and most of them would absolutely demolish Jack in a fight. He has a very comfortable placement in the low-herald category, and he's not even in the top of that category. You could lay out some threads and test the waters if you want, see where people place him.
Going into mid-herald takes more than a couple of OK feats.
Originally posted by carver9
Magneto has taken on teams...consistently.Lol...what does affecting Tyrant have to do with this match. JOH isn't busting through Magneto shields anytime soon, if at all.
JOH highs sucks. Magneto shields withstood attacks from Galactus and he has defeated Jean who was possessed by the Phoenix.
Right...
Because a blast of energy potent enough to recharge a star simply cant get though Magneto's almighty shielding...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Right...Because a blast of energy potent enough to recharge a star simply cant get though Magneto's almighty shielding...
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Are we basing this off single high showings? Based off both of their history...don't see why you are voting for jack. If we are going by single showings then, Magneto creates a black hole and suck JOH in it. If we are going by high showings, then Magneto manipulates the energy in JOH like he did proteus. I can go on for days with this. Just stop LOM.
Originally posted by carver9
Are we basing this off single high showings? Based off both of their history...don't see why you are voting for jack. If we are going by single showings then, Magneto creates a black hole and suck JOH in it. If we are going by high showings, then Magneto manipulates the energy in JOH like he did proteus. I can go on for days with this. Just stop LOM.
I'm not going off just that feat...
Do you really think Mags could do anything whatsoever to Tyrant?
Do you really think Mags would outperform JoH against Tyrant?
You already know the answer to these questions; Mags couldnt do anything to Tyrant...
Also, Tyrant>>>>>>>>Proteus
JoH wins....
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I'm not going off just that feat...Do you really think Mags could do anything whatsoever to Tyrant?
Do you really think Mags would outperform JoH against Tyrant?
You already know the answer to these questions; Mags couldnt do anything to Tyrant...
Also, Tyrant>>>>>>>>Proteus
JoH wins....
Do you think JOH can beat Phoenix? Do you think JOH could fight the Avengers and have an advantage on them (which included Thor)? Can't see JOH besting Proteus either.
Originally posted by carver9
Do you think JOH can beat Phoenix? Do you think JOH could fight the Avengers and have an advantage on them (which included Thor)? Can't see JOH besting Proteus either.
So you agree that Tyrant is greater than Phoenix, the Avengers, and Proteus then...
JoH Highs>>>Mags Highs.
