Who is the most powerful Low Herald of all? Magneto vs Jack of Hearts...

Started by TheLordofMurder6 pages

Originally posted by zopzop
Speaking of retarded.......

What part of "the only reason it took them so long to reform was because Blaastar's energy was on the same wavelength as their molecules"? Do you get it? I even provided the scan where the phucking character is EXPLAINING it to you in plain English.

They could have reformed MUCH sooner from atomization but for that little bit of luck on Blaastar's part.

Sersi would wreck Magneto and she has a host of ways to do it. Her TP is on the level of Exodus (at his best), her matter manip shielded her team from a universe busting attack, she's a master at casting illusions, her TK is no joke, and neither are her physical stats (she knocked Hercules the phuck out), not to mention her natural durability and total control over her molecular structure.

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At this point I think 753 is arguing just for the sake of arguing; its pretty clear that Sersi is beyond Mags and we have backed up that stance with both scans and concrete bullet points...

Even carver9 has given up the Magneto crusade here and that says alot...

Originally posted by zopzop
Speaking of retarded.......

What part of "the only reason it took them so long to reform was because Blaastar's energy was on the same wavelength as their molecules"? Do you get it? I even provided the scan where the phucking character is EXPLAINING it to you in plain English.

They could have reformed MUCH sooner from atomization but for that little bit of luck on Blaastar's part.

facepalmall the scan shows is that blastaar got lucky to disperse them and the dispersion took a long a time to recover from, that's it. nothing indicates she'd do it faster if she'd been atomized by sheer force, instead of just the right energy pulse, nor does that indicate she has the damage soak and HF to overcome ironrip or CNS shutdown midbattle. if you want to post more damage soak and hf feats, go ahead.


Sersi would wreck Magneto and she has a host of ways to do it. Her TP is on the level of Exodus (at his best), her matter manip shielded her team from a universe busting attack, she's a master at casting illusions, her TK is no joke, and neither are her physical stats (she knocked Hercules the phuck out), not to mention her natural durability and total control over her molecular structure. [/B]
haha do you want to argue exodus would mindrape magnus ftw? is that it? and no she isn't on par with exodus at his strongest (bloodties), just look at their encounter when he was not, at all, at his strongest.

there's no such thing as absolute control over one's molecules either, if that were the case, she'd never be injured. any atempt to wreck each other's innards, if resisted on time, would simply pit them in a tug of war.

are we in the business of listing powers now? magneto has forcefields; energy manipulation/blasting; monster EMPs; physiology manipulation; superhuman reaction speed at baseline; physical stat amping whenever channeling his powers (his durabiltiy isn't human at all, this is absurd); can manipulate the masses of mountain ranges, large asteroids and tectonic plates and draw power from stars and planets across the galaxy. big so what?

Sersi is not a class above him, no matter how much you want her to be.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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At this point I think 753 is arguing just for the sake of arguing; its pretty clear that Sersi is beyond Mags and we have backed up that stance with both scans and concrete bullet points...

Even carver9 has given up the Magneto crusade here and that says alot...

you have proven no such thing

Originally posted by 753
facepalmall the scan shows is that blastaar got lucky to disperse them and the dispersion took a long a time to recover from, that's it. nothing indicates she'd do it faster if she'd been atomized by sheer force, instead of just the right energy pulse, nor does that indicate she has the damage soak and HF to overcome ironrip or CNS shutdown midbattle. if you want to post more damage soak and hf feats, go ahead.

Uhm that was the WHOLE POINT OF THE SCAN and it was even mentioned. Good Lord....

haha do you want to argue exodus would mindrape magnus ftw? is that it? and no she isn't on par with exodus at his strongest (bloodties), just look at their encounter when he was not, at all, at his strongest.

there's no such thing as absolute control over one's molecules either, if that were the case, she'd never be injured. any atempt to wreck each other's innards, if resisted on time, would simply pit them in a tug of war.

are we in the business of listing powers now? magneto has forcefields; energy manipulation/blasting; monster EMPs; physiology manipulation; superhuman reaction speed at baseline; physical stat amping whenever channeling his powers (his durabiltiy isn't human at all, this is absurd); can manipulate the masses of mountain ranges, large asteroids and tectonic plates and draw power from stars and planets across the galaxy. big so what?

Sersi is not a class above him, no matter how much you want her to be.


Nothing is "absolute" in comics, prove Magneto can overcome her control of her molecules assuming he can even get through her shields.

And don't go comparing high end feats vs Magneto and Sersi. You'll lose. Even aside from the time she shielded her teammates from a GALAXY BUSTING attack by turning them into inert matter, there was the time she shielded them from a UNIVERSE erasing attack. UNIVERSE, not galaxy, not planet, not solar system, UNIVERSE.

Or that time when eco-terrorists detonated a nuke in Canada and Shaman was forced to shunt entire chunks of the coastline into his pouch and Alpha Flight/The Avengers/Russian Guard + THOUSANDS of Canadians were stuck in the Void and had to navigate their way back out of the pouch. Sersi INDIVIDUALLY shielded the THOUSANDS of civilians protecting them from the interdimensional void and making sure they had a breathable environment and livable temperatures all the while mindlinking the three super teams and maintaining telepathic contact with Shaman who was in another dimension.

She's at least two tiers (Mid Herald) above Magneto who I don't even consider a low herald. He's an elite high meta at his best.

Sersi got knocked out by a kick from invisible woman.

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Jack of Hearts is so uber, they put him in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. Right alongside trans levelers like White Tiger and Daughters of the Dragon. 🙂

Being able to manipulate the em spectrum on a planetary scale pales to kung fu fighting.

Originally posted by zopzop
Russian Guard

Winter Guard at the time I think, need to reread those comics.

Originally posted by cdtm
Jack of Hearts is so uber, they put him in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. Right alongside trans levelers like White Tiger and Daughters of the Dragon. 🙂

Being able to manipulate the em spectrum on a planetary scale pales to kung fu fighting.


I guess you missed the scans of Jack REIGNITING and REFUELING a STAR and being able to stagger Tyrant.

And speaking of scale :

See the difference between Magneto's "planetary" scale and Jack of Hearts "stellar" scale?

Originally posted by zopzop
I guess you missed the scans of Jack REIGNITING and REFUELING a STAR and being able to stagger Tyrant.

And speaking of scale :

See the difference between Magneto's "planetary" scale and Jack of Hearts "stellar" scale?

I know Jacks uber.

But I thought it was funny JOH gets plugged into a series about kung fu fighting. Wonder how that creative conversation went?
Executive meddler: "Shang Chi and Iron Fist aren't pulling in the sales anymore. Kung Fu's one the way out. You know what we need? A cosmic baddass!"

Writer: "Why don't I just put them up against Galactus, while I'm at it?"

Originally posted by cdtm
I know Jacks uber.

But I thought it was funny JOH gets plugged into a series about kung fu fighting. Wonder how that creative conversation went?
Executive meddler: "Shang Chi and Iron Fist aren't pulling in the sales anymore. Kung Fu's one the way out. You know what we need? A cosmic baddass!"

Writer: "Why don't I just put them up against Galactus, while I'm at it?"


Oooooh. My bad.

My sarcasm detector is weaksauce.

Originally posted by zopzop

Uhm that was the WHOLE POINT OF THE SCAN and it was even mentioned. Good Lord....

Nothing is "absolute" in comics, prove Magneto can overcome her control of her molecules assuming he can even get through her shields.

And don't go comparing high end feats vs Magneto and Sersi. You'll lose. Even aside from the time she shielded her teammates from a GALAXY BUSTING attack by turning them into inert matter, there was the time she shielded them from a UNIVERSE erasing attack. UNIVERSE, not galaxy, not planet, not solar system, UNIVERSE.

Or that time when eco-terrorists detonated a nuke in Canada and Shaman was forced to shunt entire chunks of the coastline into his pouch and Alpha Flight/The Avengers/Russian Guard + THOUSANDS of Canadians were stuck in the Void and had to navigate their way back out of the pouch. Sersi INDIVIDUALLY shielded the THOUSANDS of civilians protecting them from the interdimensional void and making sure they had a breathable environment and livable temperatures all the while mindlinking the three super teams and maintaining telepathic contact with Shaman who was in another dimension.

She's at least two tiers (Mid Herald) above Magneto who I don't even consider a low herald. He's an elite high meta at his best. [/B]

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If we look at High Feats, Magneto looks very bad compared to Sersi; give up 753 and accept the facts...Sersi is clearly beyond Magneto.

Originally posted by zopzop
I guess you missed the scans of Jack REIGNITING and REFUELING a STAR and being able to stagger Tyrant.

And speaking of scale :

See the difference between Magneto's "planetary" scale and Jack of Hearts "stellar" scale?

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Magneto pales compared to Jack of Hearts...

Jack of Hearts had his boots refitted by Moondragon!

Originally posted by Bentley

Kang is the most powerful low herald flirt

If the Master of the World isn't around 😎

Originally posted by -K-M-
Unless the Master of the World isn't around 😎

That guy is mid meta uhuh

Originally posted by Bentley
That guy is mid meta uhuh

Mid meta man made master low herald run 😎

Though, I wouldn't consider Kang low with all his tech.

This conversation should be moot considering Magneto's been depowered.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Mid meta man made master low herald run 😎

Though, I wouldn't consider Kang low with all his tech.

KM we need your verdict on beatboks vs charlotte, everybody's panicking. 😄

Oh I thought you got someone else as I literally just got back today.

Originally posted by Digi
Hate to go outside the OP, but Dr. Doom is currently listed as low herald, which is absolutely criminal imo. I have no idea how he isn't mid. But if we go by the tiers thread in this forum, there's your answer, not these two jokers.
QFT.