Who is the most powerful Low Herald of all? Magneto vs Jack of Hearts...

Started by Branlor Swift6 pages

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
By all means, I'd love to see a scan of Doom matching (let alone exceeding) the raw power output of either of these guys sans prep and under his own power...
Doom dropped Uatu while Uatu had the Cosmic Cube...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Doom dropped Uatu while Uatu had the Cosmic Cube...

Lets see the scans...

Originally posted by zopzop
Carver, Magneto has more on panel appearances than JoH and has been around longer so we have to take what we can get from all of JoH's limited appearances.

Speaking of which, Jack's high DESTROYS Magneto's high :

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Lets see the scans...
Yes, I'm a huge liar

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/doom/FanFourWGCM06_17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/doom/FanFourWGCM06_18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/doom/FanFourWGCM06_19.jpg

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yes, I'm a huge liar

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/doom/FanFourWGCM06_17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/doom/FanFourWGCM06_18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/doom/FanFourWGCM06_19.jpg


He had prep :
"Do you truly think I would be so careless as to challenge you without first considering every possible contingency?"

Originally posted by zopzop
He had prep :
"Do you truly think I would be so careless as to challenge you without first considering every possible contingency?"
So you're of the opinion he put a nigh impenetrable cosmic alloy in his suit, and then took it out afterwards?

Plus, nothing was said of his blast, so there's that.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So you're of the opinion he put a nigh impenetrable cosmic alloy in his suit, and then took it out afterwards?

Plus, nothing was said of his blast, so there's that.


He said he planed for every possible contingency for the fight vs Uatu. So he had prep. It's not like he fell out of bed one day and said, "Let me go pick a fight with Uatu and see how it goes".

Which is irrelevant seeing as he leaves the tech inside his suit.

Originally posted by zopzop
He said he planed for every possible contingency for the fight vs Uatu. So he had prep. It's not like he fell out of bed one day and said, "Let me go pick a fight with Uatu and see how it goes".
Originally posted by zopzop
He said he planed for every possible contingency for the fight vs Uatu. So he had prep. It's not like he fell out of bed one day and said, "Let me go pick a fight with Uatu and see how it goes".

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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Doom dropped Uatu while Uatu had the Cosmic Cube...

The fact that Doom had prep means that you have failed to show a scan of Doom matching (let alone exceeding) the raw power output of JoH or Mags sans prep and under his own power...

Concession accepted!

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The fact that Doom had prep means that you have failed to show a scan of Doom matching (let alone exceeding) the raw power output of JoH or Mags sans prep and under his own power...

Concession accepted!

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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Which is irrelevant seeing as he leaves the tech inside his suit.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Never happened.
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the energy backlash caused by xavier probing galactus mind destroyed their surroundings and magneto withstood it. did you just mean it wasnt really an attack?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I'll do one better; I'll bump the thread in question so you can see for yourself...

This will also give Carver the opportunity to argue why Mags should be a High Herald...

since youre the one claiming mags is a low herald beaten by everyone in the mid herald tier, sounds like you should back that up. magneto is one of the strongest mid heralds.

Originally posted by 753
since youre the one claiming mags is a low herald beaten by everyone in the mid herald tier, sounds like you should back that up. magneto is one of the strongest mid heralds.

*takes another look at the poll results*

I am clearly not the only one that feels that way; most here feel that Mags will be beaten by Diana...

I am of the opinion that Diana could speed-blitz-kill Mags within the 1st microsecond of the fight (before Mags could even form the thought to raise his shielding) without effort; I can vividly see him failing against Wonder Woman as a result...

I see Mags failing to Sersi as well; if Mags 1st action is anything else but to raise shielding, he loses immediately to her matter manipulation (she can trasmute him to anything she can think of and Mags is a normal human physically; he wont be able to resist)...

If he is able to get his shielding up before she hits him with matter manip, she still have alot of options for taking Mags out such as trickery via illusions and raw, high powered, psionic attacks...

Of course if she wanted him dead, she could just transmute the air in the area into fire (which she once did) and outright kill Mags with the matter manip...

And of course, as I have mentioned, she has the durability to take and survive punishment; Mags does not...

I could keep going with reasons why I feel Mags loses to everyone in this gauntlet, but since it is a gauntlet and I feel that Sersi is as far as he gets in his best case senario, I see no reason to continue...

Originally posted by 753
the energy backlash caused by xavier probing galactus mind destroyed their surroundings and magneto withstood it. did you just mean it wasnt really an attack?

Bah...

Their base (which was partially destroyed) took the brunt of the attack; that was not all Magneto...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
*takes another look at the poll results*

I am clearly not the only one that feels that way; most here feel that Mags will be beaten by Diana...

I am of the opinion that Diana could speed-blitz-kill Mags within the 1st microsecond of the fight (before Mags could even form the thought to raise his shielding) without effort; I can vividly see him failing against Wonder Woman as a result...

I see Mags failing to Sersi as well; if Mags 1st action is anything else but to raise shielding, he loses immediately to her matter manipulation (she can trasmute him to anything she can think of and Mags is a normal human physically; he wont be able to resist)...

If he is able to get his shielding up before she hits him with matter manip, she still have alot of options for taking Mags out such as trickery via illusions and raw, high powered, psionic attacks...

Of course if she wanted him dead, she could just transmute the air in the area into fire (which she once did) and outright kill Mags with the matter manip...

And of course, as I have mentioned, she has the durability to take and survive punishment; Mags does not...

I could keep going with reasons why I feel Mags loses to everyone in this gauntlet, but since it is a gauntlet and I feel that Sersi is as far as he gets in his best case senario, I see no reason to continue...

with CIS on, those 2 arent doing any of that anymore than he is shutting their brains down or ripping the iron in their blood in 0.01 seconds. Sersi's tp wont be getting to mags either.

Originally posted by 753
with CIS on, those 2 arent doing any of that anymore than he is shutting their brains down or ripping the iron in their blood in 0.01 seconds. Sersi's tp wont be getting to mags either.

Heres the difference; ripping iron from their blood wont kill either of them...they both can take it.

Sersi has a long history of transmuting opponents with her matter manip; take a look at her respect thread and see it for yourself...

Sersi also can attack his mind directly; shielding wont stop that...

Diana doesnt always speed blitz, but she has speed blitzed alot through out her career; her taking Mags out immediately with this tactic is far from unreasonable....

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The fact that Doom had prep means that you have failed to show a scan of Doom matching (let alone exceeding) the raw power output of JoH or Mags sans prep and under his own power...

Concession accepted!

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Originally posted by Mindset

@753

Look at it like this...

Mags 1st action; shut down Sersi's brain...

Sersi's 1st action transmute Mags into a frog (again, something she's actually done)...

Just to be fair, lets assume they go off at the exact same time; Sersi will eventually recover from Mags attack...Mags will never recover from her attack without someone helping him.

Sersi wins...