CW Mace Windu & CW Obi Wan Kenobi Vs Darth Maul & Savage Opress

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Well Maul had just gotten his power back and hadint used a saber in years so he was proabably much worse then he was in TPM with a saber and he tooled Kenobi. And I wouldint mention there Season 5 fight.

But... wasn't he restored to his former power???

Originally posted by Vensai
The meaning is vague and Savage notes that Maul's hatred made him more powerful in Revival.

Not in Revenge.

Originally posted by Nephthys
But... wasn't he restored to his former power???

Yes. But I take power to mean as in the force. I mean dont you think your saber skills would be rusty after years without a saber?.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Yes. But I take power to mean as in the force. I mean dont you think your saber skills would be rusty after years without a saber?.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Yes. But I take power to mean as in the force. I mean dont you think your saber skills would be rusty after years without a saber?.

I do.

So we're clear, S4 Maul isn't equal to TMP Maul, riiiiight? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Simply because Savage beat Anakin/Kenobi twice

No he didn't.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
and pwned Kenobi once 1v1

You mean when he caught Kenobi off guard because he just saw Maul. This is like arguing that Kenobi pwned Savage after Savage killed Adi. It's ridiculous.

Originally posted by Vensai
He should have regained his saber skills after the various duels against Jedi he had after his revival. Otherwise he wouldn't have done better against Sidious than he did as his TPM self.

Not in revenge buddy.

Even if TPM maul has the same saber skills as S4 Maul then regardless S4 Maul>Kenobi in sabers ether way.

I personally say.

TPM Maul>S4 Maul with a saber(but its closed)

S4 Maul>TPM Maul with the force(but its close)

so overall S4 Maul=TPM Maul as stated above.

And S4 Maul wooped ass on Kenobi.

You mean when he caught Kenobi off guard because he just saw Maul. This is like arguing that Kenobi pwned Savage after Savage killed Adi. It's ridiculous.

Windu warned Kenobi to be careful in the first place. Kenobi was ready for Maul. Savage jumped over and they fought and Savage quickly disarms him.

A low showing for Kenobi, yeah. But it STILL counts.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
And S4 Maul wooped ass on Kenobi.

A Kenobi who was beaten, tortured and had just woken from unconsciousness sure. That's really impressive for Maul there especially since he was getting humiliated at the start.

Originally posted by ares834
Why? Because it utterly ruins your argument?

No buddy because if your going to count Kenobi Vs The Brothers as a victory for Kenobi you gotta count Savages fights against Dooku/Ventress and against Kenobi/Anakin.

None make sense. And besides that Maul has beaten Kenobi twice. Kenobi has yet to defeat Maul.

Maul-2
Kenobi-0

Other than when he cut him in half obviously.

Originally posted by ares834
A Kenobi who was beaten, tortured and had just woken from unconsciousness sure. That's really impressive for Maul there especially since he was getting humiliated at the start.

So getting punched a few times makes Kenobi far weaker?.

Come on know, lets not be ridiculous.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Not in revenge buddy.

Even if TPM maul has the same saber skills as S4 Maul then regardless S4 Maul>Kenobi in sabers ether way.

I personally say.

TPM Maul>S4 Maul with a saber(but its closed)

S4 Maul>TPM Maul with the force(but its close)

so overall S4 Maul=TPM Maul as stated above.

And S4 Maul wooped ass on Kenobi.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Windu warned Kenobi to be careful in the first place. Kenobi was ready for Maul. Savage jumped over and they fought and Savage quickly disarms him.

A low showing for Kenobi, yeah. But it STILL counts.

Not really. Savage comes out of no where surprising Kenobi. He caught entirely off guard as evident by how he is dueling. Heck, I believe Filoni even confirms this in an interview.

Using this logic, one might as well argue that Vader defeated Sidious.

Originally posted by ares834
Not really. Savage comes out of no where surprising Kenobi. He caught entirely off guard as evident by how he is dueling. Heck, I believe Filoni even confirms this in an interview.

Using this logic, one might as well argue that Vader defeated Sidious.

You proved my point, lol. That kenobis victory over the brothers is circumstantial AS is Savages fights against Anakin/Kenobi and Savage/Ventress.

I mean earlier in the same damn episode Maul was stalemating Kenobi. In sabers.

Also Kenobi ran away from The Brothers and even stated "there to powerful for me"

So lets not beat the dead pig, buddy.

Originally posted by Vensai
Didn't Talzins magic at least boost Mauls own powers beyond TPM if his rage didn't? I recall that she offered to multiply Maul's powers during their first meeting.

Not that im aware of.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
No buddy because if your going to count Kenobi Vs The Brothers as a victory for Kenobi you gotta count Savages fights against Dooku/Ventress and against Kenobi/Anakin.

😕

Savage didn't win any of those fights though.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
None make sense. And besides that Maul has beaten Kenobi twice. Kenobi has yet to defeat Maul.

Maul-2
Kenobi-0

Your count is off.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
You proved my point, lol.

What point? You have no point you've only posted illogical ramblings.

Originally posted by ares834
Not really. Savage comes out of no where surprising Kenobi. He caught entirely off guard as evident by how he is dueling. Heck, I believe Filoni even confirms this in an interview.

Using this logic, one might as well argue that Vader defeated Sidious.

Savage didn't win any of those fights though.

Nether did Kenobi. In fact Kenobi has ether stalemated or lost to Maul. He has yet to defeat Maul. If anything Maul was the victor of the fight since it ended with Kenobi on the floor.

Your count is off.

I think its correct, no need to beat the dead pig.

Maul=2
Kenobi=0

No?.

What point? You have no point you've only posted illogical ramblings.

That all of the above fights, Savage Vs Dooku/Ventress, Savage Vs Anakin/Kenobi(twice!), and Kenobi Vs Maul/Savage have been circumstantial.

I dont see what your trying to prove.