Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
[B]Galen wins here because his Force feats and scaling place him far above Maul and Dooku
The scaling stratum of Force feats based around telekinesis on inanimate objects or displays of the Force outside of combat, are rarely good indications of well someone will perform during combat, against another Force wielder. In the case of Dooku, we don't really have a defined limit to how much he can "bench press" with the Force. Yet his capabilities might well exceed Galen if the Korriban-Cruiser feat can be clarified. On top of that point, Galen has demonstrated far less precision than Dooku on any given day when it comes to direct telekinesis on other Force users. The Count's ability to sweep aside powerful foes while engaging even more powerful individuals is leaps ahead of Whailen's, someone who can't even penetrate the Force shields of am Imperial Shadow Guard. Heh. But more to the point, Dooku's foes simply have more going for them via both feat and accolade, and they exist in an arena where powerful Force users are in somewhat abundance, and not simply scraps escaping a grand purge.
and he's already shown he's capable of matching or exceeding someone on Dooku's level as a lightsaber combatant.
Lightsaber combat is tricky to define across era's, usually some arbitrary ruling can be salvaged from detailed accolades, but in the case of Dooku and Vader, there's a very direct comparison to be made, and perhaps more than just one. It's simple, Vader could not breach the guard of an old and decrepit Ben Kenobi, while Dooku was doing fine contending with / beating Obi Wan in his prime, and with Anakin breathing down his neck too. The other case is this, Dooku handily beat Anakin in Attack of the Clones, someone who exceeds ROTJ Luke in both potential and training, while Vader in his prime, was matched by the latter an unable to pierce his Force guard in ESB.
He can be scaled off those opponents but those opponents positions are solely dictated on their performance again Galen since that performance is their only showing.
You need to look up the definition of circular logic, and try and find out why it applies here.
You have to understand that listing a character's worst showing or trying to paint them out to be bad can be done to literally any character.Vader? He slipped on his severed arm.
Sidious? He got thrown down a shaft by a one armed dying man.
Maul? He couldn't hit a man lying on the floor in front of him.
Dooku? He was captured by pirates.
And does that mean all of the characters I mentioned above are terrible combatants?
I was going to answer this rhetorically but I want to hear your response just to get a good chuckle.
Well I don't have to answer for Vader, if you want to shoot yourself in the foot by talking down Galen's only worthy trophy, than it serves me all the better. Otherwise, my response to you is this : what does it tell you when the only lowball-esq feats of the three characters mentioned, are taken from mediums where Force itself is depicted to be more subtle, where the writers have illicitly stated their desire to scale things back? An then you have the Force Unleashed, where the polar opposite is the case, and yet, Galen still gets slapped by randomers, for a reason maybe?