Count Dooku vs Meetra Surik (Jedi Exile)

Both in their prime, who'd win?

1. Sabers

2. Force

3. All out

Dooku, but not easily.

Yeah it's a tough one to decide, although I think Meetra probably has superior feats

Meetra does have some great feats (outside of Revan), but Dooku is still an amazing fighter and more of a known quantity. I couldn't really say she could challenge him in a strict saber or force fight because of that, but her feats on Malachor certainly suggest shes not far from his level.

The only thing i never understood was: If Meetra gains more power every single time she kills some1, shouldn't she be, at the very least, on revan's level?

Yes. She really should.

Yet she's beaten by Nyriss, who gets beaten by Revan in a most-likely drugged state. character ****ery at its best

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The only thing i never understood was: If Meetra gains more power every single time she kills some1, shouldn't she be, at the very least, on revan's level?

Not necessarily.

Originally posted by ares834
Not necessarily.

Back on topic, i think dooku wins, but only because his feats are more well known.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
How so?

Well we're assuming the no limits fallacy does not take place. Or at least some form of diminishing gains.

It was a way to explain how leveling up works in universe and in video games there's a level cap. It's entirely possible there's a cap in universe as well.

There is that and also the possibility that she didn't kill enough people to attain such a rank.

Dooku, rather easily. Considering that Darth Nyriss--An entity that is weaker than Dooku--was able to hand Meetra her ass with the aid of Scourge.

Yeah i'd say this is a bit lopsided, might make another thread worthy of dooku's attention 🙂

Actually, Kreia did say in KOTOR II that Meetra had been the greatest student she's ever had. Can't remember if she used those words exactly, but that line would include Revan, as he was his student. Yet, on the Revan novel Karpy ****s her character up like KOTOR II didn't even exist.

Greatest=/=most powerful

Especially when you consider Kreia's teachings.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Actually, Kreia did say in KOTOR II that Meetra had been the greatest student she's ever had.

"Greatest" doesn't neccessarily mean most powerful. Kreia loved the exile because she was the death of the force, possibly being why she uses the term "greatest." Although i agree that they made meetra seem like crap in the novel.

kinda thinking about doing a malgus vs. revan thread.

That would be a good thread. Make it.

Also--Yeah. I think it's just best to ignore KOTOR II completely. The Revan novel completely changes the Exile, and not to offend anyone--but that was probably a good idea on Drew's part. KOTOR II was just insane. 3 Sith Lords, one that can't be defeated unless he wants to be, one that can kill all life on a planet by speaking, and another that can strip multiple Jedi Council members from the Force with a gesture, and they were all defeated by this Jedi that can apparently kill the Force itself. It's ridiculous, and stupid.

Ignoring KOTOR II is my boat now, if anyone wants to hop on...

i won't, considering meetra had every convenience possible against them. examples:

1. nihilus was weakened greatly when he tried to drain telos/exile due to exile being jhole in the force

2. exile only beat sion due to dun moch

3. Traya's drain wouldn't work, same as nihilus's, and she loved the exile, possibly making her not feel as determined to kill her, like luke vs vader