Count Dooku vs Meetra Surik (Jedi Exile)

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
i1. nihilus was weakened greatly when he tried to drain telos/exile due to exile being jhole in the force

But yeah gonna make a revan vs malgus thread

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That would be a good thread. Make it.

Also--Yeah. I think it's just best to ignore KOTOR II completely. The Revan novel completely changes the Exile, and not to offend anyone--but that was probably a good idea on Drew's part. KOTOR II was just insane. 3 Sith Lords, one that can't be defeated unless he wants to be, one that can kill all life on a planet by speaking, and another that can strip multiple Jedi Council members from the Force with a gesture, and they were all defeated by this Jedi that can apparently kill the Force itself. It's ridiculous, and stupid.

Ignoring KOTOR II is my boat now, if anyone wants to hop on...

I disagree completely. KOTOR II had great potential. Obsidian just made it not-as-good-as-it-could-be by rushing it and not dealing with plot-holes and such. The restoration mod was created because of this, and it does help unsatisfied people appreciate the game better.

Besides, it is canon. So ignoring KOTOR II events would be kinda stupid.

Dooku SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That would be a good thread. Make it.

Also--Yeah. I think it's just best to ignore KOTOR II completely. The Revan novel completely changes the Exile, and not to offend anyone--but that was probably a good idea on Drew's part. KOTOR II was just insane. 3 Sith Lords, one that can't be defeated unless he wants to be, one that can kill all life on a planet by speaking, and another that can strip multiple Jedi Council members from the Force with a gesture, and they were all defeated by this Jedi that can apparently kill the Force itself. It's ridiculous, and stupid.

Ignoring KOTOR II is my boat now, if anyone wants to hop on...

Hell no.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Dooku SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

Yah, how about handless Dooku against Meetra...? Just kidding.

Dooku fought well against Yoda (who was clearly above Revan's league). Meetra, along with Scorgue wasn't even a threat to Nyriss (and Nyriss is clearly weaker then Revan). Meetra is nothing for people on Dooku's or Revan's level.
She may be "wound of the force", but then Dooku is a "centrum of the universe".

Lawl, Meetra is not 'nothing' to Dooku.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
"Greatest" doesn't neccessarily mean most powerful. Kreia loved the exile because she was the death of the force, possibly being why she uses the term "greatest." Although i agree that they made meetra seem like crap in the novel.

I agree that 'greatest' does not necessarily mean most powerful. I said I'm not sure that's the exact quote, though. And there's no indication that Kreia only said that because she loved the Exile for being her ultimate tool. That's only your theory.

Note that this comes in response to you beating her for the second time. Personally I think its obvious that shes referring to combat ability.

Yeah... The fact that she was able to defeat "lulz3sabersTK" Kreia, who annihilated three KOTOR Council Members with extreme ease, just after beating the living hell out of Sion for consecutive times until he lost his will to fight/live and cruising through a temple full of Sith Assassins and apprentices demonstrates she was in no way average, but highly skilled and powerful.

I suppose that's true neph, but u gotta take into account that kreia never really saw revan after the mando wars, meaning she wouldn't know how much more powerful revan really became.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
1. nihilus was weakened greatly when he tried to drain telos/exile due to exile being jhole in the force

2. exile only beat sion due to dun moch

3. Traya's drain wouldn't work, same as nihilus's, and she loved the exile, possibly making her not feel as determined to kill her, like luke vs vader

meaning that the kreia instapwning 3 council members feat is meaningless to meetra, since she used a drain on them.

It's not meaningless. Draining three Council Members simultaneously demonstrates a considerable command of the Force.

Wielding three lightsabers with TK is also quite the feat.

1. Yes.

2. No, she only beat him by actually beating him multiple times in a row.

3. Traya specifically says she won't hold back against the Exile. Plus more powerful than Meetra and on a potent darkside nexus. Even without her drain she was able to effortlessly kill 10 sith assassins at once.

4. Theres an edit button.

Originally posted by Nephthys
2. No, she only beat him by actually beating him multiple times in a row.

I suppose striking down sion is impressive, although sion is virtually featless in saber combat and application of the force, other than being invincible.

It might not be as important, but that doesn't change the fact that she actually whooped his ass multiple times in a row. Don't act as if her victory was only because of Dun Moch, it was just as much about her simply being far superior to him.

already addressed that it was an impressive feat.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
I disagree completely. KOTOR II had great potential. Obsidian just made it not-as-good-as-it-could-be by rushing it and not dealing with plot-holes and such. The restoration mod was created because of this, and it does help unsatisfied people appreciate the game better.

Besides, it is canon. So ignoring KOTOR II events would be kinda stupid.

1. Well, it's characters and their abilities really make no sense at all within the Star Wars Universe, and have showings that are too ridiculous to take seriously. And then the game's protagonist, who can apparently kill the Force, is completely retcon'd in Revan as the likes that can have their asses handed to them by Nyriss.

2. True, however it's characters and their abilities hardly fit into the rest of the SW universe so it's just a headache all-in-all. Perhaps I was being over dramatic, but KOTOR II simply doesn't fit.