If RotS Anakin is a 100...

Started by Intrepid375 pages

So should Fisto.

Not to the same extent. Fisto just improved by the presumed standard amount of all the CW Jedi fighting in a war. Nothing concrete about that though in Fisto's case.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I changed the grounds of this with Luke being 110

Luke: 110
Yoda: 100
Sids: 95
Mace: 90
Dooku: 90
Caedus: 90
Anakin: 90
Suit Vader: 85
Malgus: 85
HoT: 85
Kenobi: 85
Bane: 85
Revan: 80
Maul: 80
Satele: 80
Savage: 75
Grievous: 70
Kit Fisto: 70
Kolar: 65


cool list 👆

Well, this is my list from my opinions.

Luke Skywalker=175(not sure)
Yoda=162
Sidious=160
Tulak Hord=150
Darth Cadeus=145
Exar Kun=140
Darth Bane=110
Anakin=100
Windu=100
Dooku=100
Darth Krayt=90
Darth Wyyrlok III=84
Luke Skywalker(ROTJ)=80
Darth Vader(Suited, ROTJ)=80
Obi Wan Kenobi=80
Darth Maul=80
Grievous(LoE/Old Clone Wars)=78
Malgus=78
Freedon Nadd=77
Revan=76
Vodo Siosk-Baas=74
Saesee Tiin=73
Agen Kolar=72
Kit Fisto=71
Savage Opress=70
Sora Bulq=69
Asajj Ventress=67
Qui Gon Jinn=63
Kas'im=63
Plo Koon=60
Jedi Exile=59
Lord Scourage=58
Grievous(TCW)=52
Naga Sadow=52
Eeth Koth=52
Ludo Kressh=52
Ki Adi Mundi=51
Shaak Ti=50
Adi Gallia=48
Darth Talon=45
Yarel Poof=32
Obi Wan Kenobi(TPM)=29
Obi Wan Kenobi(AOTC)=23
Mangaguard=20
Darth Sion=17
Average Jedi Master(PT)=14
Darth Bandon=9
Sith Emperor=3

Luke Skywalker - 200
Yoda - 180
Sidious (RotS) - 183
Caedus - 179
Mace Windu - 100
Dooku - 95
Revan - 93
Darth Bane - 110
Exar Kun - 90
Darth Malgus - 91
Tulak Hord - 100
Anakin - 100
Obi Wan - 80
Kas'im - 80
Darth Maul (TPM) - 70
Kit Fisto - 70
Cin Drallig - 60
Agen Kolar - 60
Qui Gon (TPM) - 60
Darth Vader - 60
General Grievous - 55
Darth Nyriss - 50
Obi Wan (AotC) - 40
Average Jedi Master: 20
Vitiate: ∞

Originally posted by The Merchant
Luke Skywalker - 200
Yoda - 180
Sidious (RotS) - 183
Caedus - 179
Mace Windu - 100

That's a...pretty big jump from Windu to Yoda.


Kit Fisto - 70
Agen Kolar - 60

Is Kit Fisto above Agen Kolar?

Originally posted by The Merchant
Luke Skywalker - 200
Yoda - 180
Sidious (RotS) - 183
Caedus - 179
Mace Windu - 100
Dooku - 95
Revan - 93
Darth Bane - 110
Exar Kun - 90
Darth Malgus - 91
Tulak Hord - 100
Anakin - 100
Obi Wan - 80
Kas'im - 80
Darth Maul (TPM) - 70
Kit Fisto - 70
Cin Drallig - 60
Agen Kolar - 60
Qui Gon (TPM) - 60
Darth Vader - 60
General Grievous - 55
Darth Nyriss - 50
Obi Wan (AotC) - 40
Average Jedi Master: 20
Vitiate: ∞

Nice list, but Vader should be way higher. 80 is perfect for him.

Vader should be higher than Obi-Wan since he would have won whether Obi-Wan let him strike or not.

Not true. Neither could beat the other actually.

My list

Luke:150
Zonakin: 149
Yoda: 135
Sidious: 135
Mace Windu: 120
Count Dooku: 120
Anakin Skywalker: 115
Exar Kun: 115
Kyle Katarn: 115
Darth Bane: 115
Darth Caedus: 115
TCW Darth Maul: 105
Tulak Hord: 105
ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi: 100
Sora Bulq: 100
Darth Malgus: 100
Darth Krayt: 95
Ulic Qel-Droma: 95
Kas'im: 90
Raskta Lsu: 90
Darth Vader: 85
TPM Darth Maul: 85
Sedriss QL: 85
Jaina Solo: 80
Kit Fisto: 80
TPM "I'm mad because you killed my master" Kenobi: 80
Plo Koon: 80
Shaak Ti: 75
Quinlan Vos: 75
Agen Kolar: 75
Saesee Tinn: 75
Qui Gon Jinn: 75
Kao Cen Darach: 75
Asajj Ventress: 70
Satele Shan: 70
Greivous: 65
Galen Marek: 65
Starkiller (clone): 65
AOTC Kenobi: 60
TPM Kenobi: 55
Average Jedi Master: 50
Average Knight: 45
Average Padawan: 35
Vitiate: 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

Notes: I don't have Hero of Tython or Barsen'thor because I don't know much about either, but from the forums, I've been hearing that they are pretty powerful. Didn't HoT kill Vitiate?

Revan is too much of an unknown so I didn't put him down, but if I did, i would put him around 90-100. Revan is definetly powerful.

Why is Caedus so low?
Caedus couldn't beat Katarn, he threw a shuttle at him. Correct me if i'm wrong. I know that Caedus did some TK to beat Katarn though.

He killed Mara Jade not through saber ability, but by trickery.

And i believe its stated in the book that Luke was fighting recklessly.

Who is Sedriss QL? And why is he rather high?
Sedriss QL was trained by Palpatine. He was likely a Form V user because Vader had influenced nearly nearlty every Imperial Force adept's saber training. His saber ability was enough to make Luke Skywalker resort to TK to beat him.

Why is TCW Maul so high?
Matched Sidious in speed, and after Opress's death, I honestly think Sidious was legitimately trying to whoop Maul's behind.

Why is Ulic Qel-Droma so high?
Duel Exar Kun to what appeared to be a stalemate.

Why is Exar Kun so high?
Mastered Niman like no one else did. And no one ever did it like him again. He changed the power settings and length of his saber during combat, throwing people off guard. And the main weakness of a saber staff, the large target, wasn't present in Kun's weapon. And he could spin that thing QUICK.

Why is Bane equal to Skywalker? Isn't he better?
Honestly, I say Bane at best is equal to Skywalker. Both mastered Djem So. Both are very fast. Both are very strong.

Jaina Solo is at 80? But she beat Caedus!
In a rage fueled fury, and she was being amped by Luke Skywalker. And the sad thing is, Caedus had the upper hand, and could have killed her, but decided not to.

I think I answered the main questions on my list.

Originally posted by XRKun
Notes: I don't have Hero of Tython or Barsen'thor because I don't know much about either, but from the forums, I've been hearing that they are pretty powerful. Didn't HoT kill Vitiate?

Yes. There was arguments about whether it was truly Vitiate or simply his Voice (a being he stored his power and consciousness into) but one of the TOR writers said that it was indeed him in an interview.

XR, ur using the same thing jensaarai does about sedriss thing. It's the flimsiest argument one could make.

Originally posted by XRKun
My list

Your list has missed the point since Anakin is not a 100 on it.

lol

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Your list has missed the point since Anakin is not a 100 on it.

OHHHHH SO I CANT EDIT THE POST?

Luke:135
Zonakin: 134
Yoda: 120
Sidious: 120
Mace Windu: 105
Count Dooku: 105
Anakin Skywalker: 100
Exar Kun: 100
Kyle Katarn: 100
Darth Bane: 100
Darth Caedus: 100
TCW Darth Maul: 90
Tulak Hord: 90
ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi: 85
Sora Bulq: 85
Darth Malgus: 85
Darth Krayt: 80
Ulic Qel-Droma: 80
Kas'im: 75
Raskta Lsu: 75
Darth Vader: 70
TPM Darth Maul: 70
Sedriss QL: 70
Jaina Solo: 65
Kit Fisto: 65
TPM "I'm mad because you killed my master" Kenobi: 65
Plo Koon: 65
Shaak Ti: 60
Quinlan Vos: 60
Agen Kolar: 60
Saesee Tinn: 60
Qui Gon Jinn: 60
Kao Cen Darach: 60
Asajj Ventress: 55
Satele Shan: 55
Greivous: 50
Galen Marek: 50
Starkiller (clone): 50
AOTC Kenobi: 45
TPM Kenobi: 40
Average Jedi Master: 35
Average Knight: 30
Average Padawan: 20
Vitiate: 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

There. Happy now?

Why isn't Vitate higher than TPM Kenobi? They say 300 years had passed since the Revan novel.

Originally posted by XRKun

There. Happy now?

Why are Galen Marek and Ventress so low? Seems a bit strange considering even the Galen clone was matching Vader equally in Sabers. And given the trouble Ventress has given Kenobi in the past.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Why are Galen Marek and Ventress so low? Seems a bit strange considering even the Galen clone was matching Vader equally in Sabers. And given the trouble Ventress has given Kenobi in the past.

Ventress is probably a little higher, but Galen Marek/Starkiller Clone had the TRASHIEST saber skills. The original Marek was said to be able to block Vader's blows with precision in their final duel, but was still being overwhelmed and had to resort to TK and Lightning. And the Starkiller clone was disarmed and had to rely on using tutaminis on a physical lightning bolt to overwhelm Vader.

Lol.

Galen's lightsaber skills were stated to be 'near perfect.'

And in both the game and the book he beats Vader in lightsaber combat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol.

Galen's lightsaber skills were stated to be 'near perfect.'

And in both the game and the book he beats Vader in lightsaber combat.

Everywhere I've heard it said that Galen wasn't exactly great in sabers. Plus he only became proficient in Juyo, he never mastered it.