If RotS Anakin is a 100...

Originally posted by XRKun
Everywhere I've heard it said that Galen wasn't exactly great in sabers. Plus he only became proficient in Juyo, he never mastered it.

They're wrong.

Maybe thats why he's only nearly perfect.

Originally posted by pencilcrayon
Why isn't Vitate higher than TPM Kenobi? They say 300 years had passed since the Revan novel.

He doesn't get much practice, and I'd think he'd have to adjust to each new body.

Darth Caba: 154

Darth Karnage: 123

I thought Karnage was winning in the other thread o_O

It's still up for debate. Some of the feats others have mentioned of Caba have impressed me.

Using the Vader = 80% of the Emperor in the Force but absolutely outclassed by him precedent, and considering Anakin in his first half of the duel w/Dooku.

Luke Skywalker [when he's not jobbing] - 160
Wankatine - 145
Caedus - 145
Amp! Windu - 145
Yoda - 140
Sidious (RotS) - 140
Mace Windu - 100
Dooku - 100
Darth Krayt - 90
Kyle Katarn - 90
Exar Kun - 85
Tulak Hord - 85
Darth Malgus - 80
Obi Wan - 80
Darth Bane - 80
Darth Vader - 80
Darth Maul (TPM) - 70
Kas'im - 65
Kit Fisto - 65
Cin Drallig - 65
Qui Gon (TPM) - 65
Revan - 65
Agen Kolar - 60
Anakin (AotC) - 60
General Grievous - 55
Obi Wan (AotC) - 55
Darth Nyriss - 50
Average Jedi Master: 20
Vitiate: 5

I miss 13 year old me. 🙂

You mean when Tempest ruled and LeGenD was the face of TOR? No thanks.

Also, how tf is Caedus > Yoda as a swordsman? 🙂

Idk, his performance against Luke I guess.

Didn't Caedus use poison on Luke, and strangle him? You know before being shat on?

IIRC, their saber duel wasn't exactly much of a saber duel, lel.

Yeah I think Caedus survived so long because Luke wasn't thinking clearly. Caedus survived at several points off of tactics and if Luke was more level headed I doubt he would've gotten away with it.

"Luke had beaten him. Luke had just kept coming despite his injuries. He had inflicted more damage on Caedus than he had suffered himself, and he even escaped the garrote before Ben struck. In fact, it was probably that attack that saved Caedus' life. Nothing else could have shocked Luke out of his battle rage-only the sight of Ben slipping so far to the Dark Side."
-Inferno pg. 266

Luke Skywalker - 160
Caedus - 145
Yoda - 140

What the-

These guys should all be in the 100-120 range, lol.

^ see Palpatine vs pre vaapad Windu

^ basically, the Stover novelization suggests a really large gap between Sidious and unamped Windu, which leads me to believe that there's a large space between the Yoda/Windu and the Dooku/base Windu/Anakin tier. I'm not even sure if anyone exists in between that gap; Caedus seems to be pretty close to Yoda/Sidious.

It seems like Luke/Yoda/Sidious/Caedus are massive outliers in galactic history with respect to dueling ability, with nobody else really coming close without particularly amps like vaapad. Windu/Dooku/Anakin occupy the leading edge of the rest of the bell curve.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Using the Vader = 80% of the Emperor in the Force but absolutely outclassed by him precedent, and considering Anakin in his first half of the duel w/Dooku.

Luke Skywalker [when he's not jobbing] - 160
Wankatine - 145
Caedus - 145
Amp! Windu - 145
Yoda - 140
Sidious (RotS) - 140
Mace Windu - 100
Dooku - 100
Darth Krayt - 90
Kyle Katarn - 90
Exar Kun - 85
Tulak Hord - 85
Darth Malgus - 80
Obi Wan - 80
Darth Bane - 80
Darth Vader - 80
Darth Maul (TPM) - 70
Kas'im - 65
Kit Fisto - 65
Cin Drallig - 65
Qui Gon (TPM) - 65
Revan - 65
Agen Kolar - 60
Anakin (AotC) - 60
General Grievous - 55
Obi Wan (AotC) - 55
Darth Nyriss - 50
Average Jedi Master: 20
Vitiate: 5

Kyle katarn 90?

Hahahaha, just noticed that. That's kind of retarded. Just like Caedus being above Sidious. And Dooku being 100 compared to Sidious also being 100, even if it's compared to Anakin.

Luke Skywalker - 160
Wankatine - 145
Anakin ("Zone"😉 - 140
Amp! Windu - 140
Yoda - 135
Sidious (RotS) - 135
Caedus - 130
Anakin (after Obi Wan falls, probably base) - 120
Darth Krayt - 120
Anakin (before Obi Wan falls) - 100
Mace Windu - 100
Dooku - 100
Exar Kun - 100
Darth Vader (RotJ) - 100
Jaina Solo - 95
Tulak Hord - 85
Obi Wan - 85
Galen Marek - 80
Kyle Katarn - 80
Revan - 80
Arcann - 75
Darth Maul (TPM) - 75
Kit Fisto - 75
Cin Drallig - 70
Grievous - 70
Darth Malgus - 70
Qui Gon (TPM) - 65
Anakin (AotC) - 65
Darth Bane - 60
Obi Wan (AotC) - 60
Darth Nyriss - 60
Kas'im - 45
Average Jedi Master: 20

I guess this uses 120 as base Anakin, oh well.