Originally posted by BentleyIrrespective of the fact that I've already discussed Hyperion's feat in detail with others who attempted to pretend it didn't actually happen, what exactly are you expecting me to do here? Deconstruct the argument that shifting a moon's orbit is a superior feat to holding apart two universes merging together at their incursion points?
Nice way of flamming directly without even touching the argument for afar dear.
I question what type of thinking goes into choosing to defend the so-called "dignity" of such a moronic statement on its face. By all means, elaborate.
Originally posted by BentleyIt's either that, or making well-structured paragraphs that are without any kind of logic.
Nice way of flamming directly without even touching the argument for afar dear.
The guy really likes to hear himself speak. I'm pretty sure when he's feeling down, he sends himself private messages to read them and cheer up.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaIrony overload.
It's either that, or making well-structured paragraphs that are without any kind of logic.The guy really likes to hear himself speak. I'm pretty sure when he's feeling down, he sends himself private messages to read them and cheer up.
I can't be the only one who sees it. facepalm
Originally posted by Philosophía
If by 'them' you mean 'Earths' then we're in total agreement.Hyperion was strong enough to hold 2 Earths from touching eachother. But, as the Universes advanced, the Earths couldn't take the pressure so they crumbled.
Like my tanks/balloons analogy:
Hyperion never outmuscled two Universes, the same way I never outmuscled tanks. But we both outmuscled two balloons/Earths from moving.
Simple. Agree?
You nailed it 👆 👆
Originally posted by ODG
Irrespective of the fact that I've already discussed Hyperion's feat in detail with others who attempted to pretend it didn't actually happen, what exactly are you expecting me to do here? Deconstruct the argument that shifting a moon's orbit is a superior feat to holding apart two universes merging together at their incursion points?I question what type of thinking goes into choosing to defend the so-called "dignity" of such a moronic statement on its face. By all means, elaborate.
If you've already discussed the feat, I understand you not wanting to deconstruct it again. One way or another I wouldn't go to an insult.
The argument IS sort of semantic anyways, the scan does say he held the Earths until they gave out. How much energy does it take for the Earths to give out it's pretty iffy if you ask me, because we'd be applying regular physics to the interaction between too different universes. If I recall the context correctly physics must've been pretty messed up at that point, the Infinity Gems were broken under similar situations.
And well, the physics regarding moving-planets-physics are pretty sick anyways, I'm half expecting some random newb jumping in stating "Ultraman didn't use strength, he used flight to move that moon".
If you tell me in which thread you argued this before I'll go read it.
Originally posted by BentleyStupid deserves to be slapped down. Especially this absurd level of stupid.
If you've already discussed the feat, I understand you not wanting to deconstruct it again. One way or another I wouldn't go to an insult.
Originally posted by BentleyThat most of the Infinity Gems actually broke isn't a fact that diminishes the scope of the crisis Hyperion dealt with. Has this been LOST on you? These weren't some sh1tty alternate universe gems. These were the 616 Infinity Gems. The Incursion that Hyperion dealt with? That sh1t ain't planetary, son. That sh1t is straight up universal. Universal+, even. So much so, Hickman reduced the 616 Infinity Gems to fodder casualties to it.
The argument IS sort of semantic anyways, the scan does say he held the Earths until they gave out. How much energy does it take for the Earths to give out it's pretty iffy if you ask me, because we'd be applying regular physics to the interaction between too different universes. If I recall the context correctly physics must've been pretty messed up at that point, the Infinity Gems were broken under similar situations.
Originally posted by BentleyUltraman moving moons into new orbits, you mean? How about a multiversally systemic breakdown moving two universes together via their planetary incursion points? Setting aside the vast universal scope that is somehow being swept under the rug here, consider the following:
And well, the physics regarding moving-planets-physics are pretty sick anyways, I'm half expecting some random newb jumping in stating "Ultraman didn't use strength, he used flight to move that moon".
What's a greater strength feat, A or B? A: Ultraman shifting a moon's orbit to create a lunar eclipse. B: Ultraman holding his ground while Superman and Green Lantern push two Earths into Ultraman to the point where Kal and Hal push so hard, the two Earths actually crumble to pieces around Ultraman.
In what fairytale land of mental delusion is A a greater strength feat than B? Why do I even have to explain this?
Originally posted by BentleySearch function is shot to all hell. Try Google.
If you tell me in which thread you argued this before I'll go read it.
Originally posted by ODGI'll be happy to wipe the floor with you in this thread, if you're confident in your arguments, dumby.
Search function is shot to all hell. Try Google.
Go right ahead.
Originally posted by ODGMoving the moon through space even at fractions of lightspeed (say 1%) [while under what is your weakness [sunlight] no less] takes more strength than holding against Earths mass being pushed towards you until the lower durability of the Earths [compared to your palms] makes them crumble.
What's a greater strength feat, [b]A or B? A: Ultraman shifting a moon's orbit to create a lunar eclipse. B: Ultraman holding his ground while Superman and Green Lantern push two Earths into Ultraman to the point where Kal and Hal push so hard, the two Earths actually crumble to pieces around Ultraman.[/B]
You're a moron for thinking otherwise.
Originally posted by BentleyTo be fair, it was heavily implied by Hickman that Hyperion didn't stop the Earths using pure strength [and the scene doesn't display that, either], and that he'd revisit this scene at a later time.
I'm half expecting some random newb jumping in stating "Ultraman didn't use strength, he used flight to move that moon".
But up until then, it's better to use it as a strength feat, for debate purposes.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaRestating your inane supposition, isn't an argument. How is two universes pushing two Earths together until they collapse a greater strain than shifting a moon's orbit around?
I'll be happy to wipe the floor with you in this thread, if you're confident in your arguments, dumby.Go right ahead.
Moving the moon through space even at fractions of lightspeed (say 1%) [while under what is your weakness [sunlight] no less] takes more strength than holding against Earths mass being pushed towards you until the lower durability of the Earths [compared to your palms] makes them crumble.
You're a moron for thinking otherwise.
There is no law of physics here that explains this complete tragedy of a comparison away here. There is no law that says, any feat that sh1ts on Superman somehow doesn't count.
Unnatural forces causing multiversally systemic catastrophe > natural gravity setting moon's natural orbit.
Two universes > moon.
Two planets > moon.
Two crumbling planets > not-crumbling moon.
Phuck... one planet > moon.
Two universes blowing up in your face > sunlight anathema.
Have I dumbed this sh1t down enough for you to get over your complete mental breakdown and admit you're talking out of your a$$? This, if you even have the balls to go through with it, has got to be the most lopsided argument I have ever dealt with on KMC.
